Soooo after a long and very pointless argument, I am allowed to wear the right clothes to graduation, which is the girl clothing thank God. I'm so happy! It still sucks that my principals a homophobe :/. Did any of y'all have this problem before?

 
First, yaaaay! I'm happy for you; every right earned is a right to treasure.

But... I haven't had the problem. I didn't go to my graduation, though I would've been happy to pass through the day in the semi-unconscious state that I use when I'm doing something I dislike. if I really had to go. But, that was high-school... and it wasn't the kind of environment that I wanted to be out to.

In an environment where I'm already out or wouldn't mind if everyone knew, I would definitely ask for the right to wear clothes that properly fit my gender to graduation. I mean, that right doesn't just exist for me if I get it - it helps everyone else who wants to that comes after me.

I will be doing something similar soon, actually. I'll be attending my first year of college this September, and I will no longer be wearing guys' clothes at that point. I may not blend in very well, but if I face opposition from the authorities I can always have my doctor write a letter for me to give to official disagreements with my "crossdressing." I mean, it's part of living the real life experience.

Student conflict will be a different thing, but I hope that I'm likeable enough as a person that I won't face that issue often.

Though, if I weren't full-time, and the authorities would fight me, I would probably just attend anyway, wrong clothes and all. Sometimes, the battle is worth fighting.

By the way, what constitutes male clothes for graduation? I would probably find a gender-neutral approach if I couldn't have female attire.

i didn't bother either. i figured it was pointless, so i didn't go. i resented school for alot, so i wasn't going to go to the ceremony. personally, i would rather save the women's clothes for a reunion not that i think i would go to one 

It's your moment, and I'm glad that you'll be able to wear what suits you.
I'm graduating this summer, and we walk during the fall.  The only reason I'm looking forward to it is that it's my first occasion to wear a tie.   

Hey, glad to hear that 

It sounds like it was a battle though. At least it's over, eh? Never have to deal with that homophobic and transphobic principal again! woo!

I would have killed to wear men's clothes to graduation and prom, but my school had transphobia and homophobia written into their mission statement:

QuoteWe believe that men and women are created of equal value in the eyes of God and equal with respect to inheriting the benefits of salvation. We are complementarians: we believe men and women are created to fill different roles and responsibilities in marriage and in the Church. We affirm the concepts of headship and subordination in marriage and that in the local church, God reserves some offices requiring governing authority over the whole congregation for men only.

We believe that sexual relations should take place only between a man and a woman who are married to each other and that fornication, adultery, and homosexual acts are sinful in all circumstances

Yay, Christian schools 

We affirm the concepts of headship and subordination in marriage...

I notice they're carefully reticent about who plays which role . But seriously, that's a really grim mission statement.

It's a pretty grim religion.

you go girl! show them bitches!....o_o,,,,sorry lol ' anyways i don't think you'll have much of a problem in college, like i said other than that one dude i haven't had any issues. and if you don't have a unisex or female name on your records you could ask for your instructors and everyone to call you by your new name and they will as far as i know my friend charly has everyone call him that because of his birth name   peace love and silettos!

OH! btw does anyone have any idea of how to put a pik up and update profile information and update a signiture? because i've been trying to do that for ever and I can't figure out how to do it X3

I'm happy for you! I find arguments like that completely pointless. No one sees what's under your gown anyway. :/

I'm happy that tomorrow I'll be graduating in a tie, because our school doesn't give a crap about what you wear underneath. A lot of people aren't even wearing anything formal. I wish all schools were this way.

Quote from: x_momoXpanda_x on June 03, 2011, 08:05:46 AMOH! btw does anyone have any idea of how to put a pik up and update profile information and update a signiture? because i've been trying to do that for ever and I can't figure out how to do it X3

Can't upload a pic etc. until 15 posts. Then, go to profile, profile settings.

Thanks for all y'alls support and stories, it sucks that we have to go through this BS but the worlds a cruel place

Quote from: Jordan R.T. on June 02, 2011, 07:16:44 PM

By the way, what constitutes male clothes for graduation? I would probably find a gender-neutral approach if I couldn't have female attire.

A tie, white dress shirt black pants and dress shoes, and I don't look good in that lol

No one sees what's under your gown anyway

In fact, that's the point of the gown in the first place, to cover up class distinctions.  That, in being graduates, everyone of the graduates is equal.  Education trumps social class.

Your typical HS/college BA/BA gown is a disposable deal and tends not to be long enough to cover the entire body, so what is worn underneath is viable.  For higher degrees, when you have to buy the thing because you truly own it it tends to matter a lot less.  By the time you have a PhD between the black robes and the hood, with the velvet and satin trim^* - well those suckers are hot.  For spring/summer graduation in the Midwest it could easily get to the high 80s/low 90s easily and wearing a suit under the robes was just a form of self-induced torture and though it was heavily frowned upon many of us wore shorts and t-shirts under them, we just knew enough to go back to our offices to change.  When I graduated I wore shorts and a Grateful Dead shirt and pink/black Converse high tops.



* - There is a whole regalia to this stuff, if you know it then you can tell a) what school they went to, and b) what field they majored in.

Quote from: ~Blondie~ on June 03, 2011, 09:36:14 AM
A tie, white dress shirt black pants and dress shoes, and I don't look good in that lol

Oh goodness.

Do you think one could get an exemption if they didn't (and never have for that matter) own these items? Or couldn't afford them?

Or perhaps the shirt could be [colour of choice] because of an "error in washing..."

But then I couldn't predict how strict any authority would be. I would think some circumstances would allow an "honest" mistake, or something along those lines, to justify a bend. I mean, you can't get in trouble for a mistake, can you? Or just going ahead and doing it anyway; if they aren't visible, you won't be caught, and if they are, will the school really make a scene and partially ruin the ceremonies?

Of course, I just refuse to wear that kind of male clothing...

< Stubborn.

Best wishes 

Quote from: tekla on June 03, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
No one sees what's under your gown anyway

In fact, that's the point of the gown in the first place, to cover up class distinctions.  That, in being graduates, everyone of the graduates is equal.  Education trumps social class.

Your typical HS/college BA/BA gown is a disposable deal and tends not to be long enough to cover the entire body, so what is worn underneath is viable.  For higher degrees, when you have to buy the thing because you truly own it it tends to matter a lot less.  By the time you have a PhD between the black robes and the hood, with the velvet and satin trim^* - well those suckers are hot.  For spring/summer graduation in the Midwest it could easily get to the high 80s/low 90s easily and wearing a suit under the robes was just a form of self-induced torture and though it was heavily frowned upon many of us wore shorts and t-shirts under them, we just knew enough to go back to our offices to change.  When I graduated I wore shorts and a Grateful Dead shirt and pink/black Converse high tops.



* - There is a whole regalia to this stuff, if you know it then you can tell a) what school they went to, and b) what field they majored in.

that's funny, because at one of those assemblies before graduation, the teachers all said they were going to be checking under our gowns to see if we had the "appropriate attire" on. that was why i didn't go, but they still made the girls wear the gold gowns and boys wear black. that was only about a year ago for me.

~Blondie~: You go, girl! 

Quote from: Jordan R.T. on June 02, 2011, 07:16:44 PM
But... I haven't had the problem. I didn't go to my graduation, though I would've been happy to pass through the day in the semi-unconscious state that I use when I'm doing something I dislike. if I really had to go. But, that was high-school... and it wasn't the kind of environment that I wanted to be out to.

I didn't go to my graduation either. Trust me, I would've wanted to...but wearing a suit and being seen as 'a guy'? Eh, no thanks. People, friends and family alike, kept saying that it is "your day" so I thought that I'll spend it rather smiling than crying. Of course explaining this decision (to the few people that had to know) was rather difficult, considering that I'm nowhere near being "out" from the closet. Sometimes it's good to have the reputation of a rebel, though. 

I wore a suit to my university graduation and I can't say that I was overly bothered wearing one.  The university regulations were strict on the dress code and as I was registered as a male student I would be required to wear a suit or not be allowed to cross the platform and be 'capped' by the rector. 
I loved my graduation ceremony I wouldn't have missed it for the world!   Many people grumble about going and say 'it is just a waste of time' and 'it is pointless' but I think that is nerves talking.   At the ceremony me and my fellow students were officially declared 'graduates' and told that we 'were now part of the [edited by OP] family'.   My mother and sister loved getting all dressed up and we all had a great day.

Rites of passage are important - unless you have them every other week, in which case they lose their fizz . But beginnings and endings are worth marking.

I had this same issue, and after a long, stressful, protracted and ultimately pointless argument, I was allowed to wear a dress to graduation as well. Wonder of wonders, no audience members collapsed in shock from the mere existence of a transsexual.  Congratulations to you as well on your victory!