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does chocolate affect hormones???

Started by Anaeta_Desiree, June 07, 2011, 08:40:37 PM

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Anaeta_Desiree

ok I know Caffine cosumption affects hormones... what about chocolate?? while from what i understand it does not have caffine per se it does have something very similar to caffine... I am slated to start hormones next month and I want to find out what i need to eliminate....

i.e.
caffine
smoking ( i am down to one cig a week so that is not a problem)
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missjanealice

You should start being mindful of your potassium intake.


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girl_ashley

Quote from: missjanealice on June 07, 2011, 08:48:51 PM
You should start being mindful of your potassium intake.

ONLY if you have liver or kidney problems.  Don't worry about it so much and don't let others talk you into worrying about it especially if you're healthy.

There isn't enough caffeine in chocolate to affect your hormones.  In fact, I was quite the Coca-Cola addict back in my first year of HRT and there were no effects from being so.
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Janet_Girl

I drink coffee constantly.  And I am a chocoholic.  I have never met a chocolate that I did not like.  ;D

And I have had no problem.  Well not counting the horn on my forehead.  But that makes me a unicorn.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Muffins

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pebbles

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Keroppi

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JungianZoe

Like everyone else said, I'm sure there's not enough caffeine in chocolate to make any difference on hormones. ;D

I don't understand the whole "caffeine and hormones" mechanism (and I have a distinct love of studying biology).  I'm kind of hoping it's not true because I have quite the Mountain Dew habit and have had surprisingly few changes from HRT compared to what almost everyone else reports.  Not only that, I was known to sometimes take caffeine pills with bottles of Mountain Dew, though I've long since given that up.

Tried to break myself off the caffeine but I've found that the cognitive slowing from my severe depression is far too great and I bawl for hours when I have no caffeine.  Going to ask my doc when I see her next week about adding antidepressants to the mix (as well as finding a different AA than spiro, which didn't work, and depo, which might be making me depressed).  Then I get worried about how an antidepressant affects hormones... ugh!!
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Anaeta_Desiree

Thank you very much for the input!!! 

yea as far as I know I have a healthy liver.. should know for sure in 2 weeks.. LOL

LOL at Janet Lynn
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Debra


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ativan

It affects everything.....except hormones.

Has anyone tried snorting coco-mix powder?
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kate durcal

Quote from: Zoƫ Natasha on June 08, 2011, 10:33:42 AM

1.- I don't understand the whole "caffeine and hormones" mechanism (and I have a distinct love of studying biology). 

2.- Tried to break myself off the caffeine but I've found that the cognitive slowing from my severe depression is far too great and I bawl for hours when I have no caffeine. 

3.- Going to ask my doc when I see her next week about adding antidepressants to the mix

4.- (as well as finding a different AA than spiro, which didn't work, and depo, which might be making me depressed).





Crit Rev Food Sci Nutr. 2011 Apr;51(4):363-73.

Coffee and its consumption: benefits and risks.

Butt MS, Sultan MT.


Source

National Institute of Food Science and Technology, University of Agriculture, Faisalabad, Pakistan. drmsbutt@yahoo.com


Abstract

Coffee is the leading worldwide beverage after water and its trade exceeds US $10 billion worldwide. Controversies regarding its benefits and risks still exist as reliable evidence is becoming available supporting its health promoting potential; however, some researchers have argued about the association of coffee consumption with cardiovascular complications and cancer insurgence. The health-promoting properties of coffee are often attributed to its rich phytochemistry, including caffeine, chlorogenic acid, caffeic acid, hydroxyhydroquinone (HHQ), etc. Many research investigations, epidemiological studies, and meta-analyses regarding coffee consumption revealed its inverse correlation with that of diabetes mellitus, various cancer lines, Parkinsonism, and Alzheimer's disease. Moreover, it ameliorates oxidative stress because of its ability to induce mRNA and protein expression, and mediates Nrf2-ARE pathway stimulation. Furthermore, caffeine and its metabolites help in proper cognitive functionality. Coffee lipid fraction containing cafestol and kahweol act as a safeguard against some malignant cells by modulating the detoxifying enzymes. On the other hand, their higher levels raise serum cholesterol, posing a possible threat to coronary health, for example, myocardial and cerebral infarction, insomnia, and cardiovascular complications. Caffeine also affects adenosine receptors and its withdrawal is accompanied with muscle fatigue and allied problems in those addicted to coffee. An array of evidence showed that pregnant women or those with postmenopausal problems should avoid excessive consumption of coffee because of its interference with oral contraceptives or postmenopausal hormones. This review article is an attempt to disseminate general information, health claims, and obviously the risk factors associated with coffee consumption to scientists, allied stakeholders, and certainly readers.


Parkinsonism Relat Disord. 2010 Jul;16(6):370-5. Epub 2010 Mar 20.

Polymorphisms of caffeine metabolism and estrogen receptor genes and risk of Parkinson's disease in men and women.

Palacios N, Weisskopf M, Simon K, Gao X, Schwarzschild M, Ascherio A.


Source

Dept. of Nutrition, Harvard School of Public Health 655 Huntington Ave., Boston, MA 02115, USA. palacios@hsph.harvard.edu


Abstract

Caffeine intake has been associated with a decreased risk of Parkinson's disease (PD) in men but the effect in women is less clear, and appears to be modified by use of post-menopausal estrogens. In a nested case-control study within the Nurses Health Study (NHS) and the Health Professionals Follow-up Study (HPFS), we examined associations between single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) of caffeine metabolizing genes (CYP1A2 and NAT2) and estrogen receptors (ESR1 and ESR2), their interaction with caffeine intake and hormone replacement therapy (PMH) use (collected prospectively) and risk of PD. We matched 159 female cases to 724 controls and 139 male cases to 561 controls on birth year, source of DNA (blood or buccal smear), age and sex. The CYP1A2 rs762551 polymorphism (lower enzyme inducibility) was marginally associated with an increased risk of PD (RR, for increasing number of minor alleles=1.34; 95% CI 1.02, 1.78 in women, but not in men. None of the NAT2 (classified as slow vs. fast acetylator), ESR1 or ESR2 polymorphisms were significantly associated with an altered risk of PD. Marginally significant interactions were observed between caffeine intake and the ESR1 polymorphism rs3798577 (p=0.07) and ESR2 polymorphism rs1255998 (p=0.07). The observed increased risk of PD among female but not male carriers of the rs762551 polymorphism of CYP1A2 and the interactions of caffeine with ESR1 rs3798577 and ESR2 rs1255998 may provide clues to explain the relationship between gender, caffeine intake, estrogen status and risk of PD and need to be replicated.

1.- It only applies to excessive consumption 4 or mor cups a day.

2.- Stay with yur coffe

3.- If you do not have to take anti depresants, PLEASE do not take them. Morere often than not, it is a life-time deal. WE do not fully understand the long-term consequences of anti depressant use.

4.- You mean spiro at it highest does has failed to reduce your total T asnd free T?

Kate D

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JungianZoe

Quote from: kate durcal on June 24, 2011, 07:48:00 PM
1.- It only applies to excessive consumption 4 or mor cups a day.

2.- Stay with yur coffe

3.- If you do not have to take anti depresants, PLEASE do not take them. Morere often than not, it is a life-time deal. WE do not fully understand the long-term consequences of anti depressant use.

4.- You mean spiro at it highest does has failed to reduce your total T asnd free T?

1. Good to know, because I'm not that bad anymore.

2. Diet Mountain Dew, to be precise.  No coffee for me thanks to a tannin allergy.  No tea either, for the same reason.

3. This is what's stopped me from using antidepressants despite 23 years of serious depression (all but the last six years were suicidal)

4. Correct... T levels were still at 650 on spiro.  Depo knocked them down to 9.
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