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I can't seem to care enough to quit

Started by Donnie, June 13, 2011, 02:44:41 AM

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Donnie

I've got depression(who doesn't), really bad anxiety, and a very weird form of OCD. And my ways of coping are just that, ways of coping. They help me get through the tough days. My ways of coping currently include drinking, spice/weed, and DXM. When I was younger it was smoking, cutting/burning, and binge-eating. I'll smoke(spice/weed) occasionally during the day, but mostly at night before bed. Drinking when I would rather not think about the world around me, and DXM when I feel like having a ball.

Mostly I've chosen these methods because they are cheap. I can't afford to pay for a psychiatrist and drugs, especially if I want to start "T" soon. Its going to be hard enough doing that. I mean, I'll go for anything that helps me. Is it hurting me too? Most likely. But then, so would the meds doctors would give me, it wont be all good. Everything has it's side effects. Nothing is really, truly good for you now a days, especially the food. So what should it matter one more bad thing that I put into my body? Clearly I don't care for living a long life, I don't really see the point in that. So what you lived to the age of 90? No one else gives a crap about that. The younger generation especially wont care. Very few people will listen to your rantings about the "good old days."

Anyways, just thought I would share my two cents. Anyone been in my place and gotten out of it? Have a logical reason why I should stop my course of thinking? Find a flaw in my post? Etc?


Let me also add. I am not advocating any type of drug use, underage drinking/smoking, blah, blah, blah.
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Taka

first of all, i've never hear about alcohol actually being good for anything other than disinfection. you'll just make both your physical and mental health worse, and you're not even guaranteed to die young. i know that weed may help some, and have never heard about dmx, so all i can suggest for you is that you make the dosages as low as ever possible if you feel like you need it. just barely enough to be able to step outside your own house. excessive use of anything that changes your mood has the potential of turning your mental health for the worse

then, even if you can't afford a psychiatrist, there is a lot you can do for yourself. i have a friend who who suffers from real bad anxiety, but distrusts any kind of doctor, so she has found other ways to cope. one of the things she has found to help greatly is to take a timeout from everyday life to actually feel her own feelings. pushing away anxiety usually only makes it worse when it comes back, while exploring your own feelings may give you the opportunity to sort them out, even if you don't get any help from a psychiatrist

as for the meds a doctor could give you, i recently saw on a science show that antidepressants are over 80% placebo and often have severe side-effects. so there's even a chance that you'd get just as good results if you convince yourself to eat a healthy breakfast or lunch at the same time every day (not that i'm a doctor, so you shouldn't trust my opinions. but a healthy lifestyle, even if forced upon you, will usually help better your mood)
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Muffins

I smoke weed and enjoy DXM and never considered them addictive :S or let along a problem in my life. I had to stop both along with coffee for surgery so my body would be healthy but as soon as I feel I'm well enough then I shall partake once again.
I've never had much interest in alcohol and consider it a debilitating poison, If I'm going to have a substance I want it to enhance my mind not make me slur my mind/speech and lose control of my body :/ So yeah if you feel it brings something positive to your life and doesn't get in the way then enjoy. Otherwise... perhaps reassess! :P
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Donnie

Quote from: Muffin on June 13, 2011, 05:45:11 AM
I smoke weed and enjoy DXM and never considered them addictive :S or let along a problem in my life. I had to stop both along with coffee for surgery so my body would be healthy but as soon as I feel I'm well enough then I shall partake once again.
I've never had much interest in alcohol and consider it a debilitating poison, If I'm going to have a substance I want it to enhance my mind not make me slur my mind/speech and lose control of my body :/ So yeah if you feel it brings something positive to your life and doesn't get in the way then enjoy. Otherwise... perhaps reassess! :P

Mentally addictive, not so much physical, the same way you could be addicted to video games or something else you far to much time on. Have you drunk alcohol before? Like, not getting wasted, but small quantities. I find the effect not to far off from weed and DXM. But then, I've never had either of the others, "enhance my mind."
Tripped out for me usually ends with me lying on a bed giggling(DXM 2'nd/3'rd) and the DXM makes it hard for me to focus on one thing for too long, or just mellowed out/loose (weed).  Though, weed is the only one I can take and "clear my mind." If I suddenly find myself needing to have to think clearly for parents or something. But alcohol doesn't "control my body," it just makes it a bit difficult to walk(which getting really high does the same thing), and think(which the DXM does). So maybe its like a mix of the two?
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Muffins

I enjoy weed and DXM that's for sure and there are times that I will smoke daily but I've never considered that to be addiction! I can and have easily said "nah not today", and been fine with that. DXM is something that can only be taken every three months due to tolerance so I rarely have it. I have some awaiting me in the cupboard once I'm ready! I've read a lot of stories of people having DXM and what they actually do while on it. It seems bizarre like they totally miss the point of what it does. I mean.. it's a dissociative so the last thing you want to do is take it at a party or really anywhere else other than a dark room laying on your bed with mellow ambient music so that you can close your eyes and drift out of your body. I mean to me that is the only reason to have it! For my next experience I'm looking to freebase it for a cleaner ride and so I can take more and go higher.
I've had alcohol in all different varieties but even small amounts still give me that same feeling, loss of balance and not being 100% mentally able. Definitely not my drug of course!
Weed has always helped my mind open up in a creative way, it helps me see everything in a new light, a new perspective. And it makes everything seem fresh and exciting so I'm more likely to experiment with my art while high. Instead of being overly self conscious. That and it makes me more humorous. I guess you could relate that in a way with alcohol, lowering ones inhibitions but without the dizzy mindlessness.. with weed I'm still in complete control of my mind and body and can function as well as when I'm straight.. it helps a great deal with anxiety in that sense as well plus no hang overs or dehydration! Weed > alcohol. Unless of course the weed is insano A grade potent skunk or something.. then I may need a minute to gather myself lols.
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Sarah Louise

Ok, we know you like weed, but at this point in American history, it is still illegal to smoke weed, so lets stop talking about it.
Nameless here for evermore!;  Merely this, and nothing more;
Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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Robert Scott

Okay...as a clueless one ... what is DMX?

I suggest counseling!  There are lots of free counseling resources in major cities.  AA groups provide a way to discuss your feeling in a non threating environment.  Find your local GLBT support group and go there -- there are ways to get help if you want it.
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Muffins

When I say weed I'm talking about a synthetic herbal substitute (spice) that is 100% legal and has a similar action on the same receptor sites. Sorry for the mix up. But saying that if I could find the real deal then... .................but yeah >_<

Quote from: Rob on June 13, 2011, 10:36:16 AM
Okay...as a clueless one ... what is DXM?

it's basically cough syrup, (certain brands of) robotussin. It's over-the-counter and can be bought without a script so... not really illegal or anything. Just not recommended to be taken over suggested measurements. the LD is pretty high so ...yeah.

If in doubt (or you're a hater) then don't do it, simple.

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Donnie

Quote from: Rob on June 13, 2011, 10:36:16 AM
Okay...as a clueless one ... what is DMX?

I suggest counseling!  There are lots of free counseling resources in major cities.  AA groups provide a way to discuss your feeling in a non threating environment.  Find your local GLBT support group and go there -- there are ways to get help if you want it.
DXM is short for Dextromethorphan(a name I have never been able to pronounce >.>), found in many cough syrups, Robotussin being most popular one(taking DXM can also be called robo-tripping). Its one of those drugs where if you look shady, or are buying too much at once, you'll get carded. Because they know you could be abusing it. Also, if you care curious about it, don't just go to the store, pick up a random bottle and chug it, that is the quickest way to land yourself in the hospital.

Also, I took free counseling before. The counselor "fired" me, because she couldn't help me >_<
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Devlyn

Hi Donnie, recreational drugs are OK when you're doing it for recreation, it's when you're not deciding to use them, but you have to use them that they become a problem. Even if you aren't planning a long life, you want to be in charge of the one you're living, yeah? Hugs, Tracey
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Sarah Louise

Recreational drugs might be ok in your house, but not in Susan's Forums.  Any drugs that is considered Illegal, are not allowed here.
Nameless here for evermore!;  Merely this, and nothing more;
Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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Devlyn

@ Sarah Louise: My apologies, I meant no harm. Marijuana is decriminalised here in MA if you have less than an ounce. So I thought it was harmless talking about it. I'll respect your wishes and not bring it up again.
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Devlyn

Donnie, I quit drinking over twenty five years ago, because it became a problem instead of fun. Just keep yourself under control, and if you're doing something, make sure you're doing it for fun, not necessity.
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Donnie

Quote from: Sarah Louise on June 13, 2011, 04:22:39 PM
Recreational drugs might be ok in your house, but not in Susan's Forums.  Any drugs that is considered Illegal, are not allowed here.

I don't recall actually talking about any drug that is illegal. I use Spice, which is the legal equivalent of weed. DXM is not illegal, and neither is alcohol. I'm sorry if you were mistaken that we were talking of such. I don't want to be breaking any rules here o.o
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Donnie

Quote from: Tracey on June 13, 2011, 06:05:04 PM
Donnie, I quit drinking over twenty five years ago, because it became a problem instead of fun. Just keep yourself under control, and if you're doing something, make sure you're doing it for fun, not necessity.

Currently its not a problem for me, but I suspect that it could soon. Life keeps throwing lemons at me, and I have no sugar! D:
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