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Started by Shana A, June 18, 2011, 11:24:36 PM

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Shana A

Defining WOMAN.
by Undercover Punk
Posted on Friday, June 17th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

http://radicalhub.wordpress.com/2011/06/17/defining-woman/

There is lots of talk about what "woman" means. It's practically a cliche feminist topic! But the debate takes on new meaning in light of transsexuality's destructive "gender" conservatism. Post-modern anti-essentialism seeks to dismiss the experience of womanhood by claiming that anyone can choose to be a woman and, in any case, we are too diverse to be generalized about. This is not true. Women are all subject to the tyranny of compulsory heterosexuality that dictates the sexual-ized behavior of humans according to the mutually exclusive classifications of "man" and "woman." Women have shared life experiences as "girls" and as "women." Radical feminist theory seeks to expose the ways in which trans theory, like patriarchal reality, denies female self-determination and imposes upon women their own false (read: male-serving) definition OF "woman."

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By hijacking the word "woman," trans ideology seeks to erase or invisibilize the presumption of female-ness that constitutes the core criteria informing the word itself. Trans reduce the word WOMAN to a social construct and identity — one that they can appropriate at will, have socially and politically supported merely on their word, and then legitimized legally in a relatively short time (usually just 2 years). For trans, it is not a contradiction for a MAAB to adopt the term "woman" and the often-repeated mantra of the community is "trans women ARE women."
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Muffins

wom·an

1. the female human being ( distinguished from man).

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/woman
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fe·male

1. a person bearing two X chromosomes in the cell nuclei and normally having a vagina, a uterus and ovaries, and developing at puberty a relatively rounded body and enlarged breasts, and retaining a beardless face; a girl or woman.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/female
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so according to a general dictionary of a conventional meaning it's someone who is female and bears XX chromosomes. Late last year I sent dictionary.reference an email that questioned this definition and brought to their attention the case surrounding the Olympic games chromo testing and how it was proven to be an ineffective method of determining sex. Needless to say, no reply and no update of info on their website.

So! one person has their view and another has another view that is different. Person A wants person B to agree with their view and person B wants person A to agree with their point of view. thus a never ending merry-go-round of stupidity. Enjoy.
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VeryGnawty

Quote from: articleFurther, the so-called "trans woman's" life experience is fundamentally distinct from natal women's experiences in both breadth and depth. To refuse the relevancy and legitimacy of these specific experiential differences between women and "trans women" is to redefine "womanhood" to better serve male purposes. It shows blatant disregard and disrespect for the experiences and realities women who have lived as women and girls from their first breaths. It is misogyny, pure and simple.

So, women are women because of their common shared experience of sexism.  Thus, only real women can be called women.

Does this type of thinking make sense to anyone other than radical feminists?  They argue for a label which they admit is associated with patriarchal oppression.

This article gives me a headache.
"The cake is a lie."
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JungianZoe

Sure... and men do nothing whatsoever to attract women, I presume?  Men aren't also forced into heterosexuality?  That must be why it's as smooth and easy as butter for a man to come out as gay, right?  And I also assume that gay men face absolutely no barriers or stigma whatsoever?  Because of their male dominance?

Well, that's the logic of the article...

Just an example of someone who can't prop up their position without putting everyone else down.
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VeryGnawty

Quote from: Zoë Natasha on June 19, 2011, 12:29:08 PM
Sure... and men do nothing whatsoever to attract women, I presume?

Well, that's the logic of the article...

That's the logic of all radfem articles...
"The cake is a lie."
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