Ok, just when I thought I had heard it all, I noticed (especially during this past week) that my genitals smell VERY much like a vagina.  This is NOT something I have ever read happening.  I'm going crazy here (mostly due to still liking the smell of women).  Is this normal???  I mean I really haven't heard of *this* effect from HRT before.  I mean it smells *exactly* the same as one.

Melissa

Melissa,

I am guessing that you have not had reconstruction done at this time. What I have heard from TS women is that the shaft softens, shrinks and also has a fluid on the outside, this fluid (wetness) is from hormones. I would think it would have a odor that is simular to that of a female. The line between male and female is not so fixed ya know lol.  You'll get used to it, it's just another change your body is going through.

Peace
Taylor

Hmm, it hasn't shrunk one bit yet and I don't think it's softened any more than it was before, but yeah, there's moisture on the outside.  The smell is especially strong when I um...take a #1 as if pee isn't the only thing coming out.  I wouldn't be so concerned if I had found some kind of reference to it in all the HRT change documentation I've seen including out own wiki. 

Melissa

I thought the internal smell was more from the type of bacteria which live in it not so much from secretions.


I noticed the wetness though and it didn't relly smell like much.

(5 months one week on HRT btw)

Quote from: Mawd on February 15, 2007, 06:18:57 AM
I thought the internal smell was more from the type of bacteria which live in it not so much from secretions.

That's the same thing I heard, which is kind of why I was puzzled.  I had only heard about this from one person and that was jan_c, who was IS.  So I am trying to figure out if this *is* an HRT effect (most likely conclusion) or just something else.  I've been on HRT for a little over a year at this point.

Melissa

I smell totally different Down There since HRT. I don't know where it's coming from, but I notice it whenever I use the bathroom (hence exposing the area suddenly). It's not exactly pleasant, it's sorta... MUSKY. And it's not necessarily from the genitals, it's the area itself somehow... maybe from being so warm and covered-up all the time. Sweat? Body scent? I dunno.

And yes, I recognize the scent from my wife, though if she ever reads this she's gonna kill me...

Kate

Ok, that doesn't help me very much Kate.  You've already told me your urethra is in the incorrect location, which is indicative that you're IS.  I'm trying to look for counter-examples to provide evidence that this is normal for a TS on HRT.

Melissa

Quote from: Melissa on February 15, 2007, 10:35:15 AM
Ok, that doesn't help me very much Kate.  You've already told me your urethra is in the incorrect location, which is indicative that you're IS.  I'm trying to look for counter-examples to provide evidence that this is normal for a TS on HRT.

Welllllll, you *really* have to stretch the definition of "IS" to include me in there. Technically, yes perhaps, but realistically... my parts and internal stuff are all male (as far as I know).

I didn't smell like this before HRT, and I only noticed it after being on HRT for awhile.

The only other caveat though is that my sense of smell changed as well. I'm *extremely* sensitive to body odour now (yay, such fun), both male AND female. So it's possible the scent was always there and I'm only noticing it now.

Kate

I didn't notice any change in odor's that could have possibly caused by HRT.  I respectfully doubt that it would happen.  As mentioned the natural female odors that emanate from that region are normally produced by bacteria that healthy women naturally produce.

I don't think that you have the parts MEW.

Steph

Quote from: Steph on February 15, 2007, 10:47:04 AM
As mentioned the natural female odors that emanate from that region are normally produced by bacteria that healthy women naturally produce.

I don't think that you have the parts MEW.

Hmm, do you think it's possible that in combination with moisture excreeted through skin in combination with the way that I tuck could possibly allow for the right conditions for the bacteria to manifest? 

Melissa

Everything I've ever read on HRT states a change in bodily odors - from metallic and acrid to a sweet, musky smell for MtFs.
The genital areas tend to be moist compared with the rest of the body, so the sweat smell would be more pronounced. 

Yep that's a possibility I guess, I remember that I myself used to sweat there myself.

Steph

  I'm not IS and yes I have noticed a distinctly "feminine" odor from that region after HRT as did my roommate before her SRS.  I think the most likely culprit is the lack of air flow in that region when you tuck or wear a lot of tight undies and the rapid growth of those odor causing bacteria.  The timing associated with HRT is probably more coincidental than anything. 

Quote from: Steph on February 15, 2007, 11:05:19 AM
...I remember that I myself used to sweat there myself.

Steph, have you been doing work for the department of redundancy department again?

Quote from: BrandiOK on February 15, 2007, 11:07:02 AM
  I'm not IS and yes I have noticed a distinctly "feminine" odor from that region after HRT as did my roommate before her SRS.  I think the most likely culprit is the lack of air flow in that region when you tuck or wear a lot of tight undies and the rapid growth of those odor causing bacteria.  The timing associated with HRT is probably more coincidental than anything. 

Thank you.  That's the kind of thing I was looking for.

Melissa

Yep

Steph

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Everything I've ever read on HRT states a change in bodily odors - from metallic and acrid to a sweet, musky smell for MtFs.
The genital areas tend to be moist compared with the rest of the body, so the sweat smell would be more pronounced. 

Exactly. My sweat from Down There absolutely, positively, without any doubt smells differently since starting HRT. I don't tuck or anything, I do nothing else differently. It's not a genital thing per se, but as you say, it's just an area that gets warm and moist moreso than others.

Kate

See thats why I like this place I have been thinking a was a little koo koo with this smell thing.
I barely notice the pantie region and wrote that off due to tucking. But other areas or my general order was suddenly different I thought it was in my head


well ok guess maybe there is sofen to it


Kirstina

  After considering 's explaination it makes perfect sense.  HRT does change overall body odor from what is characteristically considered male to what is considered female or vice versa.   Since the genital region is typically moist and warm then that odor would be more pronounced as  said.

bri -

Woman1: Smells like vagina in here!
Woman2: Excuse me?
Woman1: (smiling) Smells like FRESH vagina in here!
Woman2: (hesitant) Do you mean, MY vagina?
Woman1:  Maaaayyyybe!


(fast forward to 1m45s if you don't wanna watch the whole thing)

Ilsa