Hes just a gay boy who likes attention

It's not for me to judge. Or anyone to judge really. I think if Chris is happier as a woman, then Chris should live as a woman. If Chris is happier as a man, then Chris should live as a man. Some people find out later on in their lives or transitions that they don't want to constrict themselves to gender binaries and live freely as both genders or as neither gender.

Just because Chris is flamboyant, loud, out and proud, doesn't mean that Chris is wrong for how he or she chooses to identify.

Leave Chris Croker's gender identity alone!  *emo sobbing*


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I've only ever heard Chris refer to zhimself as female.
So it doesn't come as any surprise to me.
If she truly needs to live as a female, that's perfectly fine.

How do I get upset at someone who I have never heard of?

I never personally liked him, but he can be whatever he wants

Chris Crocker did go through a time where he felt that he was a woman, but I think his feelings evolved and eventually settled on being androgynous, boy clothes mostly while not behaving to any gender norm.

Below is an old video he made before he settled on his current identity. In this video he talks about how he feels like a woman.

I've never heard of Chris Crocker? 

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on July 12, 2011, 03:29:40 AM
I've never heard of Chris Crocker?

He was big on leaving Britany (Spears) alone. Search for him on youtube and you should see the infamous video.

I think Chris is very lucky to have such an Androgynous face that enables him to "pass" with a fashionable flair. I think he's a pretty attractive person physically, and I believe that this health and freedom in the appearance is almost essential to be able to explore the soul and identity. I only wish that I was born with a much less strictly male appearance that allowed me to pass fashionably in an attractive way; because of my explosive and comedic personality, I'm positive that I would have been one of the "Chris Crockers" of Youtube, if I felt more confident to show off my face. Even my career is in the media and comedy world.

However, I just sort of think Crocker in particular has an annoying personality at times. He's funny and some of his videos are downright hilarious, but you have to take him in very slow! Otherwise, I believe he is an excellent representation of what a human being is able to do given a fairly attractive Androgynous appearance and a entertaining personality, and given a Youtube page. We live in the age were if you're fairly attractive, interesting, and confident, you can at least build a strong following online; this is the age of the internet fame. And quite frankly, an internet following is actually a very healthy thing to have when a person is going through such a truly "extreme" "disorder" like gender identity. It can replace a lot of negative feelings.

A big motto of mine is "if you don't have anything else in the world but good looks and confidence, you can at least get rich by being a Youtube star!"

I am annoyed on general principle - while very much recognizing it's visceral and i have no real right to - by anyone who's "flamboyant" in being gender variant.

I completely recognize their right to but a big part of me wishes that all the gender "abnormality" anyone ever heard of was a very simple "changes sides on the binary" transition. Of course there will be others, but the more "hey look at me!!!" they are the more they annoy me.

Well these days the word transsexual means a billion different things to a billion different people so for all I know he could be claiming to be something I personally would consider a fire hydrant. *shrugs*. oh yeah I have no idea who this chris crocker is either... *also has no interest in finding out*.

Meh, I just wish I was that pretty.

Quote from: Padma on July 12, 2011, 04:17:19 AM
Meh, I just wish I was that pretty.

Padma you are much prettier. 

Nice try - but I know how 'flattering' my avatar is .



As it goes, one reason why I find Chris pretty is because she looks a lot happier than she used to, which has got to be a good thing, regardless of the whole youtube stardom weirdness.

Yet again I sit in a corner. I do not know or care what a Chris Croker is. And why should I?

Cindy

I agree Padma, I think you're as pretty as Crocker!; actually, you honestly look as though you could be a sibling of his! I think a number of techniques that Crocker does with his naturally slightly-masculine appearance would work the same type of wonder with your features as well. Crocker is sort of Androgynous to the point his identity appearance truly seems to work for who he feels he is, but there's still no denying that he has some masculine-ish traits that he's worked very well with using his wig and make-up techniques - he has a workable palette and I believe you truly have the palette that evokes the same type of confidence and accessibility, a look that's easy on the eyes and can be amplified using the steps you feel are you.

And as it is, there's no doubt that your image strikes me as female as opposed to male. The brightness of the eyes, the glow of the face, the smile, the accessibility, one can truly appreciate your image as a female IMO, and I'd pretty much say the only improvements from here might just be hair and make-up, if that's the direction you're looking for. I've never thought anything critical or negative about your image, and I'm just a tad picky myself!  I think you're going in the right direction!

To be honest as well, I've always liked what you've done with your hair color while it's in the shaved-length phase. Actually, I like bold colors in general, and I think it gives you a punch of identity; especially pairing it with the same clothing color. Transitioning is a weird process in life, might as well try out some unique colors or styles along with way!

Quote from: Tammy Hope on July 12, 2011, 04:10:52 AM
I am annoyed... by anyone who's "flamboyant" in being gender variant.

Why? What's wrong with flamboyant?

Quote from: RhinoP on July 12, 2011, 04:59:09 AM
I'd pretty much say the only improvements from here might just be hair and make-up, if that's the direction you're looking for.

I'm not a make-up kind of being, but I'm working on the hair, which I just want a bit longer and fuller (Finasteride is on my horizon, which will help there). I'm not particularly aiming for trad femininity myself, I just think Chris has a pretty face, is all.

Quote from: girl_ashley on July 11, 2011, 01:25:06 PM
Leave Chris Croker's gender identity alone!  *emo sobbing*


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Hahahahah 


Chris is as annoying as he/she is attractive, oh well. I didn't know Chris was still around?