Okay so about a month ago I took a T blood test and my T level was only 30 (normal range for females is 20 - 40), however I still had involuntarily erections once or twice a day. I also had no reduction in body hair at all and almost no boob growth despite being on E for 6 years.

Some people mentioned that DHT might be the cause of it. So anyway I ordered some Proscar and started cutting it into quarters. Since taking it, I think my body hair has thinned a little and my boobs have grown a bit.

However I'm getting very, very frequent erections. It hasn't been this bad since before I started on HRT. I'm getting at least 6 - 10 erections a day. Just lying on my bed thinking about my girlfriend causes erections, and it pretty much stays hard until I wake up in the morning.

I'm also leaking some fluids out? Often there's a small stain of dried fluids on my underwear after waking up.


I'd appreciate any advice that you guys can give me, thanks!


PS: Another thing, I think I'm getting frequent erections but without an increase in sex drive? I mean I get erections a lot, but I don't feel horny and I don't feel any urge to have sex. I just get extremely annoyed at the erections and wish it'll just go away.

Maybe it's just because you've recently started taking the anti-androgen. The body initially responds by fighting back and producing more T, so there's a period of adjustment before a new equilibrium is reached.

I go with Padma's take, had similar experience, just not as frequent.

Also leaking fluid is due to prostate shrinking when on Proscar. I have noticed the same.
At least you will not ever have to worry about BPH :-)

Oh, and since you have not mentioned it, any ejaculation would be just clear liquid and rather little at that?

Just hang in there for a while it should come right,
Axelle

Yip

I had same thing happen the anti-androgen's caused my T to sky rocket and then plummet its normal and you cant just be one E thats useless you need anti-androgen's until your SRS.

She was probably also on spironolactone or cyproterone

Yip spiro and finpecia

Just for reference, I'm taking Estrofem daily and Proscar.

Quote from: Padma on July 17, 2011, 02:33:40 AM
Maybe it's just because you've recently started taking the anti-androgen. The body initially responds by fighting back and producing more T, so there's a period of adjustment before a new equilibrium is reached.

Hmm just to clarify that you're referring to the proscar when you say 'anti-androgen' right? Should I take androcur or spiro to counter it, or just leave it first? I have some androcur but I don't take it at the moment because my T levels are already within female ranges.

How long do you expect it to take for this 'equilibrium' to be reached?

Quote from: Axelle on July 17, 2011, 02:57:03 AM
I go with Padma's take, had similar experience, just not as frequent.

Also leaking fluid is due to prostate shrinking when on Proscar. I have noticed the same.
At least you will not ever have to worry about BPH :-)

Oh, and since you have not mentioned it, any ejaculation would be just clear liquid and rather little at that?

Just hang in there for a while it should come right,
Axelle

Yup, completely clear liquid and not much at all. Usually just a small blob at the most. I guess I'll hang in there awhile more. I just feel rather uncomfortable with an increase in T in my body. Do you have any idea how long it took for you before things went back to normal?

Quote from: LilKittyCatZoey on July 17, 2011, 04:52:04 AM
Yip

I had same thing happen the anti-androgen's caused my T to sky rocket and then plummet its normal and you cant just be one E thats useless you need anti-androgen's until your SRS.

Quote from: Jade S. on July 17, 2011, 08:16:28 AM
She was probably also on spironolactone or cyproterone

Actually as weird as it sounds, nope, I'm not taking any AAs, just E. AAs were too expensive for me to self-med on when I was 14, so I only took E for roughly 6 years. For some reason, my T levels are at normal female ranges and I'm pretty sure it's been around that range for at least 2 years.

[edited to remove dosages, as per ToS - Padma]

I don't think changing your dosages or medication is what's needed now, I think you just need to carry on as you are and it'll all settle down. But I don't know if I know what I'm talking about - I'm just extrapolating from what I've read and heard from others.

I think AA are needed because they help with a lot of stuff and spiro is cheap. I am one spiro estrofem and finpecia and spiro is the cheapest by far though i take more of it, its still cheaper

Quote from: LilKittyCatZoey on July 17, 2011, 10:01:25 AM
I think AA are needed because they help with a lot of stuff and spiro is cheap. I am one spiro estrofem and finpecia and spiro is the cheapest by far though i take more of it, its still cheaper

Well here's the question though. What do I need AAs for if my T levels are already within normal female ranges? 

Well your breasts and development arent there so therefore the T test must of been a fluck because the E doesnt seem to be able to work

Quote from: gum on July 17, 2011, 10:49:06 AM
Well here's the question though. What do I need AAs for if my T levels are already within normal female ranges? 

Finasteride is an anti-androgen - so you're already taking one. But it's okay to take other AA's alongside it if they help reduce the DHT count, except yours is already down.

Quote from: Padma on July 17, 2011, 11:02:22 AM
Finasteride is an anti-androgen - so you're already taking one. But it's okay to take other AA's alongside it if they help reduce the DHT count, except yours is already down.

She has a point i take spiro to wipe out every drop of T in my body and finpecia to prevent T from forming or being created.

My AA test is, if my libido is starting to get TOO noticeable. Like I want to start humping my cushion and such :-)

Too much libido and no partner can be quite a pain.

I'm on EstroPause (Estradiol valerate), 3x a day, Spiro 1x in the morning, and Fincar every 2nd day so I don't have to break it in halve.

If I drop the AA (Spiro) my libido goes bit by bit too high and the "morning wood" starts again. It feels more like an erection then it actually is, but is noticeably uncomfortable.

Axelle

Morning balsa?

Morning iron-wood if not attended to  :-)

Quote from: Padma on July 17, 2011, 11:02:22 AM
Finasteride is an anti-androgen - so you're already taking one. But it's okay to take other AA's alongside it if they help reduce the DHT count, except yours is already down.

Sorry mm,

When I said 'AAs', I was referring to Androcur or Spiro and I didn't mean to include Finasteride.

As far as I know, DHT is a seperate hormone from T, and neither Androcur not Spiro have any effect on your DHT level. Since my T range is already within the normal range for females, what would be the reason to take Androcur or Spiro since they affect T, not DHT. 

Quote from: LilKittyCatZoey on July 17, 2011, 11:00:31 AM
Well your breasts and development arent there so therefore the T test must of been a fluck because the E doesnt seem to be able to work

E has been effective in everything except for boobs, body hair and libido. It's possible that DHT could be the cause for surpressing breast growth and keeping the sex drive high, right? I highly doubt my T test was a fluke.

The body makes DHT out of the available testosterone, so it's worth keeping the level of T down. If you can afford to go lower down in the "standard female range" for T, maybe it's worth experimenting to see if that helps - with medical support to keep an eye on your levels, of course.