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The harsh reality of tolerance but not acceptance...

Started by AbraCadabra, July 24, 2011, 06:03:48 AM

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AbraCadabra

I'm talking "post-transition" reality and use more the 1 year RLE full time living as a woman.
I know, maybe we will transition for ever... I have an idea.

Also I put this post here as for FtM it seems far less of an issue.
Females with short hair, no makeup, wearing pants ONLY ever, not showing breasts, and even having a baritone voice are hardly a point of discussion these days. They be considered butch gay, and the world is full of them. They are tolerated AND generally accepted also.

Looking at MtF we have a very much more negative picture. Individual by individual I am certainly tolerated and until more recently confused this with acceptance. A mistake of some proportion as I'm now learning.

Funnily enough it is in most cases always THE OTHERS that prevent a person to accept you.

The landlord that literally wants you banned from their premises where they live.

The customers - OMG - what will THEY think!

The boyfriend or husband that can not bring his buddies to where you would meet.

If you had no problem in male-guise to a find a place to stay for a short while when moving house --- now forget it! What will the people THINK!?

Even when trying for alternative accommodation, the jig is up. The place is not available to YOU --- 'cause they are scared of you. Gotta be some freak or something.

We know about jobs, enough has been said about that.

Most everybody is tolerant, oh yes --- but to offer a helping hand when it is needed? No way, GOT TO THINK OF THE OTHERS WHAT THEY THINK OF ME, - harbouring a ->-bleeped-<-.

This may lead so far to be homeless at some stage --- and in my case?
I been trained in all sorts of skills, nobody cares now, also being too old (easy way out).
Now how to train as a bag-lady, so I will not just die out in the street?

As long as you have money, you have "friends" or better folks that tolerate you. Even with those, once the initial: "Oh, what took you so long...?!" novelty wears of, they vanish under the radar with "promises" how they "care" about you --- but never any is delivered.

Any GG that be in ANY of the above situations and being a friendly warm person will have no issue to find a helping hand. I know some that even live in the back cottages free of rent, etc, etc.

I think training for sleeping in the streets might be a VERY useful thing to have in my current upcoming home-transition.

Lastly the worst. As my option was transition or make an end to my misery, that option will still be present.
Most people in my circle would just feel, if not say: "You see, always told you so!"
And at the same time be quite please to be rid of your TS imposition and plain embarrassment.

Guess what? Consider de-transition and throw in the towel?
No use, you done the deed. The same will come about: "Ah, how nice so you finally found your senses... eh what you did JUST CAN'T be done, you see!"
Afterwards you are handed out the same treatment as you got before --- 'cause you done the deed.

For most, if not all, "normal" people to transition is: THE MOST SELFISH ACT IMAGINABLE, because nobody asked you to.

It is your own "fancy" and if you want to practice self-actualsation (highest in Maslow's hierarchy of needs) you better be provided for food, cloth and shelter. Otherwise just jump in the lake and don't bother to surface again.

We can't know the future --- more better I don't.
Bless,
Axelle

Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Renate

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AbraCadabra

Well, did I speak about seeing? I talked about EXPERIENCING these things.

Granted, I seem to live in a very conservative place, Pretoria, South Africa, and there is not even a support-group for TS, and the last one in Johannesburg also folded some time ago.

So who else may I open up to then you at Susan's?

It's not so much a rant as just unburdening my souls to the "family".

Thank you for listening --- and now as for we don't know the futur...,

I just got this email!
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Dear Axelle
I am pleased to move your SRS date to 20 Sept. 2011.
Sanguan
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Und somit... "nach mir die Sintflut" i.e. devil-may-care, or no matter what comes :-)

Thank you Renate, or was it Vielen Dank,
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Amazon D

Wow south africa. Thats a tough place to live and be TS. My heart is with you. hugs and be safe
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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AbraCadabra

Yep, lots of tolerance and little acceptance.

Makes you feel like being out on a limb.
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Renate

Nope, I don't experience things that way at all.
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Bird

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NormalGirlHere

Quote from: Axélle on July 24, 2011, 08:23:52 AM
Well, did I speak about seeing? I talked about EXPERIENCING these things.

Granted, I seem to live in a very conservative place, Pretoria, South Africa, and there is not even a support-group for TS, and the last one in Johannesburg also folded some time ago.

So who else may I open up to then you at Susan's?

It's not so much a rant as just unburdening my souls to the "family".

Thank you for listening --- and now as for we don't know the futur...,

I just got this email!
+++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Axelle
I am pleased to move your SRS date to 20 Sept. 2011.
Sanguan
+++++++++++++++++++++

Und somit... "nach mir die Sintflut" i.e. devil-may-care, or no matter what comes :-)

Thank you Renate, or was it Vielen Dank,
Axelle


True Pretoria does have very stonch afrikaans conservatives. I have a ex who lives there she dumped me because i wear nail polish lol i dont know why she even dated me
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kate durcal

I am a bit confused here, truly. In another place you said you are making a living doing by prostitution. Perhap the lack of acceptance is due to your occupation rather than you TS? Just wondering.

You said you have other skills, is SA all the same, could you move to a more friendly place.

Hugs,

Kate D
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Annah

I think acceptance and embrace has a lot to do with the area you are in, the situation you are experiencing, and your personal reflections from your own experiences.

With me, I have experienced a welcoming experience. My family relates to me as Annah as does my School and my work.

However, I understand that some others do not have this type of acceptance and my heart goes out to them.

But I believe there are so many factors involved that we just cannot say it's a harsh reality across the spectrum because for some it is but for others it isn't.
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Sabriel Facrin

I think this is a thought of when it goes towards the bad end...as much as there's places where transition goes pretty well, a lot of places still pretty fully act the way of the opening post. ;.; Apparently I'm not too far from a place that's not even as 'good' as that, in how the reputation's spoken of. S:
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AbraCadabra

@ Maiara
"Have I considered moving? " YEEEES!

But selling your house in a close to dead market ain't fun, nor easy. So I'm sort of stuck.
Also the place I live is very close to amenities which can't be said for A LOT of other places in our urban sprawl.

@ Kate
Yes, I do have other skills, being a trained engineer (mech.), high tech. semiconductor assembly manufacturing manger (Siemens), hi tech documentation manager(same), ex software consultant (Applied Materials), productivity improvement consultant (APPM, TGI)),
solid wood woodworking (own) and design of furniture, sport-shoe manufacturing manager (ADIAS), speaker design, ex HiFi nut, --- but I'm not a trained hooker nor would I be one at my age, but worth a consideration if younger before sleeping in the streets.
Check my profile, I'm not keeping age behind a bush (N/A) as many decided is best for them.

Ask a question? Get answers, eh.
:-)
Axelle



Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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