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Does Playfulness come from Androgynity, or Androgynity from Playfulness?

Started by Pica Pica, June 30, 2011, 06:00:32 PM

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Does Playfulness come from Androgynity, or Androgynity from Playfulness?

Playfulness comes from Androgynity
6 (31.6%)
Androgynity come from Playfulness
1 (5.3%)
I don't know
6 (31.6%)
There is no link between the two
5 (26.3%)
Androgynes aren't playful
0 (0%)
Androgynes don't really exist
1 (5.3%)

Total Members Voted: 19

RhinoP

Honestly, a big study in psychiatry is that with the appearance of the face and body, societies around the world judge haggard, masculine looks as "that person should not be playful, that freaks me out", all the way to how societies around the world view Androgynous all the way to Female images as "okay, that person looks soft, cuddly, or playful, that personality seems natural for them, I'm not freaked out."

With time, this can catch up to a naturally playful, cute acting person if the person develops very masculine, aged, manly features that don't suit the personality; it may not directly cause distress at first to the person, but eventual outside forces can. Trust me, both studies and personal experiences proves that almost every single person out there will be freaked out and even will make fun of a masculine man who acts cute, playful, "queer", or whatnot, when they wouldn't do that to a person who's appearance already "matches" with the playful personality.

This may and will cause an extroverted, playful, expressive person to become extremely introverted, shy, depressive, ect ect. There's rarely any escaping it, and it's a very extreme problem in the world of people who feel that they look different than what their personality is. It's why that, while a playful personality can truly be innate, that it is almost always diminshed as a person grows more haggard or aged looking. It's why many people are forced to "grow up", and the concept of "having to grow up just because I look grown up" is a horrid concept that I fight against a lot.

I just cringe when I see just how discriminatory society is against haggard looking men in terms of playfulness. It happens to me and it happens to other people. Yet it doesn't happen in the men who just seem to somehow not look old or haggard. It's like two different worlds!
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Padma

being playful is what stops you looking haggard. If it doesn't, you're not doing it right 8).
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Taka

Quote from: Padma on July 12, 2011, 05:36:49 AM
being playful is what stops you looking haggard. If it doesn't, you're not doing it right 8).
a playful spark in someone's eyes usually shine so brightly you don't see their otherwise haggard looks. even the old men around here are playful, and the kids love to hear them tell stories about the mischief they did in their own youth. if those same old men weren't playful, the kids would hate them
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Pica Pica

I know an extraordinary haggard man who is also one of the most playful I know - and it looks perfect.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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tekla

FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Dweia


Well I think it's because the "inner child" isn't silenced anymore.

As when we grow up, we are forced to act like an adult. So we just learn to silence our inner child and learn to do things the way it's appropriate to our age.

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tekla

As when we grow up, we are forced to act like an adult

Not all of us, it's easy to grow up without really growing up.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Jaimey

It could be that we become playful to deal with all the crap around us too.  :)
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Pica Pica

'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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ZaidaZadkiel

Mother never taught me to sew, So I have to go to these sewer shops where they sew lots of things.

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Jaimey

This thread is sew going off on a tangent. 


See what I did there?  :icon_eyebrow:
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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sunny-side

*giggles* I just have to say that you people are fantastic XD  I'm all on pins and needles waiting for the next pun... oh wait, there it was, lol.

Back on topic, though, I'd say that you really shouldn't generalize and say that all androgynes are playful.  Looking at you guys and at myself, though, there does seem to be a sort of link.  I've always been in touch with my inner child, it's way more fun that way!  I've also noticed that I've become sillier and more playful since I started to think of myself as androgyne (or perhaps that's just the sleep loss from staying up late reading info on this every night, and the resulting tons of caffeine the next day XD).
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foosnark

I picked "I don't know."

I know an asexual genderqueer biogirl who, on the surface, seems stony-faced and angry and refuses to ever have a good time.  But she's a musician, posts a lot of goofy things, likes a particular silly animal, and I have seen her grinning.

And of course there are plenty of binary people who, aside from going "11010110" all the time, are playful.

I do think maybe there's something in the mindset though... a realization that absurdity is everywhere, especially in society and its rules.  The world is a terribly silly and improbable place, and the human condition is ridiculous.  (Fnord.)

There might also be an association with chilhood, in that ] young children are often blind to gender roles/stereotypes and ] chldren don't have highly developed physical sex attributes and are sort of androgynous naturally.

This could all be bogus of couse, especially that last part.  But count me as useless anecdotal evidence toward a link between nonbinary and playful.  I don't think one causes the other, but they go together like peanut butter and chocolate.
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BunnyBee

I wonder about the connection between wordplayfulness and androgynes?  Y'all are really good at it. :)
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tekla

the connection between wordplayfulness and androgynes

Education

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BunnyBee

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ativan

Quote from: Jen on August 10, 2011, 11:49:11 PM
I wonder about the connection between wordplayfulness and androgynes?  Y'all are really good at it. :)
Imagination
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ativan

Quote from: Jen on August 10, 2011, 11:49:11 PM
I wonder about the connection between wordplayfulness and androgynes?  Y'all are really good at it. :)
Most of us haven't even made it out of the Peter Pan Level.
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BunnyBee

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Pica Pica

'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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