I for one find it a very interesting question.

We all say we know our gender, but just how?
How do we know we aren't just imagining and dreaming it?

After all, human minds can often be absolutely convinced of things that aren't actually true. A billion people think Jesus is God and another billion think Allah is God, while rejecting the other party's assertion, so they can't both be right. Yet millions of people are absolutely convinced they are right about God.

And here we all say we know we are female. How can you be so sure? How do you know it's not your brain playing tricks on you?

I tend to think it's undecidable (at least by the current messy meaning of gender). I leave open the possibility that I really am not the gender I think I am, i.e. that if I am somehow examined rigorously scientifically there would be no basis on which I call myself a girl. However, I believe I'm a girl (but will not ascertain it with absolutely certainty), and a girl is what I want to live as, even if there is in fact no intrinsic basis for me being female.

Quote from: elsaG on August 11, 2011, 08:45:34 AM
do we want to be woman because we like girly things? what is ur explanation?

I actually don't like many girly things. Not even guys, I'm a lesbian. And what I want is irrelevant. I've always been a woman, like it or not. Believe me sometimes it's not too. Life would certainly be easier if I were a guy since I find myself in a male body, but that just isn't how things are. As far as how I know, all I can say is that I know myself. Not this body, not its brain or genetics or wtf ever else. Only I am me.

We're all entitled to our own interpretation of reality. Really,  that's all anyone ever has. /philosophy

Because my personality, my interests, my way of living isnt 'flowering' as I am dreaming of....its like a kettle that stays on the fire. I cant live like this! I am suppresing myself

I'm also sick and tired of being perceived as gay by a lot of people, sick of being perceived as some kind of artsy alternative guy. No no no, that's not me...what they see now is a person who isn't conforming totally because I refuse to 'man up' or be the total opposite of what I feel....so I choose something in between, which isn't making me anymore happy at all

I have quite a few 'girly' interests and the way I behave and move leans more towards feminine. And no, I dont like pink (That's for girls, I am 27....Purple is an adult colour!:P) and I dont like mini-skirts and 8 inch heels (I'm not a dress up doll...if I want to look good I'll dress elegantly)

Sometimes its so hard to explain but I prefer to see myself as just casual with a little bit of femme flair ..something a lot of cis-women do aswell

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Quote from: elsaG on August 11, 2011, 09:45:34 am

    do we want to be woman because we like girly things? what is ur explanation?

I dont really consider that question in my transition. I am more girly..or let's say..feminine than the vast majority of guys both in (stereotypical) behaviour and interests but that's who I am. My body is what I am, and it destroying my chance to live who I am, slowly but surely

If free to do so - you ARE who you want to be.

Actually quite simple.
All the WHYs are not really helpful in this.

And I like girl things because I'm a girl/woman/female it's what I am, and also want to be.

:-)
Axelle

I spent all my time trying to disprove myself. I got all the boy toys and was happy but I wanted some girl toys also. Things were not to bad growing up. I throwed a fit we I saw a bicycle with flowered set and my mom kept saying it was a girls bike. When I entered my teens iwas shaving my legs and stealing clothes from  women that I knew to wear. It was not a sex thing. I just need to express myself. I got to the point of trying to disprove myself. I tryed tostay away from my own feelings. I regret not learning who I am. somethings are me only because noone can see the diffrence so I could express that area of myself. But I have decorative side of me that is very under develeped because I have said one to many times whatever, I don't care and so on. I went to clothing store the other day not to many people there. All that was going through my mind was what would look good on me. What colors go good together my mind was free to explore. I went back because I felt so liberated but it was filled with people. I was afraid to do anything that would make people look at me weird. I  said all of this because for me I have had to learn to understand myself not ignore who I am. I am very tomboyish but when it was time to be a woman all I could think about was how I looked.

I grew up into a woman wanting to be more girly instead of tomboyish then I hit the gender wall.


Sorry I tryed combine the two post but my phone wound not let me.