Quote from: cynthialee on August 12, 2011, 11:38:07 AM
If we reduced to 1/4 of force level we would have the personel to do all those jobs.

Your original quote was "Armies are only for occupying foriegn territory.", by that logic all the programs I mentioned would be disbanded under your theory force reduction or not.  I have yet to see proof that a force reduction is appropriate.

Threatening the world with nukes doesn't work either, becuase believe it or not we do care what our allies think of us.  I'm pretty they'd be a little pissed at us when the nuclear fallout from our retaliation fell on them too.

War Crimes are determined after the fact (interestingly enough its only a war crime if you lose) and have no bearing on the duration of a war.  We're not in Iraq any longer because a few Iraquis were "illegally" killed anymore then World War II lasted as long as it did becuase of the German death camps.

I did say that.

ok everything I ever said is no longer valid, you may now place cynthialee on ignore

If we kept 1/4 of our forces they would have to be stationed somewhere. If they are not stationed in other places they must of course be stationed at home.
Obviously those jobs would be filled.
Don't automaticaly jump to the furthest extremes. that is just lame.

Quote from: Annah on August 11, 2011, 07:19:30 PM
Do you have links to these figures? The only reason why I ask is because I live in Pennsylvania and about 80% of the transgender girls I know who lives in the east likes women before transition and women after transition. And I know A LOT of trans women from doing speaking events, being a minister aspirant, support groups and several websites where I met the women personally.

Also, my sexually course at Graduate school had sources that were conflicting than yours. This course was just this past May 2011 so it's pretty recent studies. Studies regarding sexual preferences showed that MTF were much more inclined to be lesbians than FTM  to be gay. There was no difference according to region.

Ah you do like numbers.  I have my masters in finance and minors in mathematics and chemistry.  I worked in five sigma (1 error in 10,000) long before six sigma became fashionable.   Came to Susan's maybe four years ago and ran numerous surveys.  Left Susan's for two years and worked as an inner city high school mathematics teacher.  Guess my breasts got too big for couple high level administrators and they no longer needed my services.  Came back to Susan's and my surveys are on server someplace.  Now your statistic of 80% MTF like females and my survery that 75% like females have close correlation.  Maybe it was 77% in my survey since I round for convenience. 

I did find that 50% of MTF that did NOT like males sexually started liking them sexually after SRS.  I did not see your corresponding piece to that statistic.

Also found majority of FTM liked females and ones that liked males continued to like males.  (I frequently added FTM sections into my surveys so that everyone could vote.)

What section do you place eunuchs under?  Chemically they have potential to be equal to post op but maybe they still kept parts bank.  It is very difficult to compare apples to apples on surveys.  I actually worked very hard to make good surveys.  Few would have known that.

Logically you can prove an hypothesis/ conclusion wrong by finding an argument that does not support it.  Therefore I spent two years on this site developing surveys to prove to myself that it is mathematically impossible for me to be TS.

Findings:
1. MTF can not sexually like girls.  False
2. MTF will have fewer left handed people.  False In fact I found 30% of MTF were left hand dominant or ambidextrous.  I have seem these results in a conference in Atlanta and on article on TS traits. 15% of genetic males are left hand dominant and 5% of genetic females are left hand dominant or 10% of general population.
3. MTF will not work in engineering or be good at math.  False on both counts.  Males dominate engineering and math.  However many of MTF have worked in systems and engineering.  In fact larger than general polulation.
4. MTF will not be in mechanical. False
5. MTF will not be in be aggressive.  False.  My goodness one friend was a Navy SEAL and many are in military positions.
6.  MTF will not be self centered.  False.
7. MTF will not have wanted to be pretty. False

Annah I was teasing about reattaching my testes if medical tests prove nothing.  Yes I would like something to confirm my findings but in end you just need faith in your feelings.  I have watched numerous "old" MTF transition and they have done fine.  They felt similar to me.  They worked hard and tried to be good dads and good husbands.  I have known only one to fully transition and keep her spouse.  I currently know a professor that is transitioning and has two young children and wife is still with her.  Sad thing is that MTF "without" FFS looks prettier and has better personality than wife.

Agree Republicans tend to be homophobes and Democrats seem to be spendthrifts.   I am not pleased but if we keep spending we will be out of business as a country.

We attend a Methodist Church and it has four trans people that I know counting myself.  (It is illogical for me not to count myself as trans.)  People are respectful in my neighborhood.  Rural part of state tends to have more hostile females.Wife and I teach Sunday school and I teach students to think for themselves.

Gender issues are troubling for me but I can laugh at myself.

Final note:  Years ago crowd tended to be older and now it tends to be young.  Guess dinosaurs are dying out and new age mix could change statistics.

Silent Majority comes into modern usage (it used to mean the dead - as in dead and burred) meaning 'the supporters of the Viet Nam War, who mostly lived inland (as opposed to the coastal people) and we're not being heard (though apparently they did have enough people listening to them that the war had been started and was continuing) and despite the TV coverage they were, in fact, the majority of people in the US.  Though at some point they were, at some point they were not, and at the point Nixon used it, they were no longer the majority.  Just count it up as another lie from old Tricky Dickey.  Most people now understand the VN War as a bad idea, one that created many bad things and solved nothing.  Why you would want to compare yourself to a lie brought out in support for a real bad idea.   

Quote from: regan on August 12, 2011, 10:38:40 AM
I'm sure Quadaffi will get right on that...

This is one thing I've never understood.  Why does it have to fall on us to play policeman when some dictator does horrible things to his own country?  I mean... yes, it's completely terrible that it's happening, but it costs us a lot of money.  No one pays us back.  At some point we need to stop playing the lonesome policeman around the world and spread the responsibility to the other first world countries.  We need to realize that we don't have the money to do it.  And we shouldn't be the only country stepping up.  Historically, every "world power class" empire that fell in the past spread itself too thin to support itself with the money it took in.  That is part of what is happening in this country.

Sure, it's good to have an army.  It's even good to have a large army.  However, it's not good to spend ourselves into the ground trying to fight several endless middle eastern wars at the same time.

Quote from: AmySmiles on August 12, 2011, 04:45:38 PM
This is one thing I've never understood.  Why does it have to fall on us to play policeman when some dictator does horrible things to his own country?

Because if you fail to learn from the past you are doomed to repeat it. Both World Wars could have been avoided (as a World War) if other nations jumped in to intercede against offending countries. For example, the US pledge to not get involved in WW2 and many Western European Nations signed non aggression pacts with Hitler even though they knew he was conquering eastern countries.

The "close your eyes and hope the fighting over there wont reach us" is a fantasy. In the advent of nuclear warfare it is even more adamant to douse a situation before it grows.

Also, the US is not the only "police" of the world. There are 188 countries involved in this process.

Kia Ora,

All I can say, if Kate has really parted ways with Susan's , is if you read this Kate...I wish you well on your journey of self discovery and like I hope for other members here I hope you find what it is you are looking for...

All the best Kate...And remember "Don't take life too seriously !"

Metta Zenda

Quote from: Zenda on August 12, 2011, 05:25:14 PM
Kia Ora,

All I can say, if Kate has really parted ways with Susan's......

Is that the person who started this thread? O.o

yes

Quote from: Stephe on August 12, 2011, 08:22:47 PM
Is that the person who started this thread? O.o

Too funny!

No one reads what we write.

Silent majority are people that sit around while Rome burns. 

Did you know that Obama released strategic oil reserves to hold oil prices down?

Did you know that Federal Reserve Kept borrowing rate for funds near zero to hold down interest rates?

Guess what?

What magic tricks are left after next year's election?

What happens when we use all of strategic oil reserves?

What happens when we give more to entitled?

Hey my daughter is teaching English in China and is learning Mandarin!

There was an interesting article in 'The Australian' newspaper this morning on the US-China-Australia relationship that made the claim that  economically things were not as bad as some seem to think. 

It pointed out that the way investment and trade flows between the three is protecting all of us from outside influences, such as the EU debacle,  to a large extent.  China is undergoing huge development, and with Australian resources imports and US investment running at  high levels, will make all three more prosperous, unlike the predictions of US decline that seem to be given more credence.

It should be available on-line.

Karen.

Quote from: justmeinoz on August 13, 2011, 06:31:53 AM
There was an interesting article in 'The Australian' newspaper this morning on the US-China-Australia relationship that made the claim that  economically things were not as bad as some seem to think. 

Maybe for the rich they are not. In the USA there are still millions unemployed, far more than what the government numbers indicate because those numbers only count those who they will give unemployment benefits to. It does not count all those who have been denied benefits or those who have had their benefits run out. There are millions of homeless, millions with untreated medical problems due to lack of money, nobody (even the government itself) can pay their bills... Yeah, it is bad alright. That's why something needs to be done about it.

Quote from: Pinkfluff on August 13, 2011, 03:46:31 PM
That's why something needs to be done about it.

What are you doing about it?

Quote from: regan on August 13, 2011, 06:29:57 PM
What are you doing about it?

Bugging my Senators and Rep asking them to support equal rights and environmental responsibility. About all I can do with no money but at least it is something.

I am aware that the US, along with a lot of other countries are doing it a lot tougher than Australia is at the moment thanks to another mining boom. The article was pointing out that things are not as doom laden as some commentators make out, and some of the underlying strengths of the relationship.
Karen.

Bugging my Senators and Rep asking them to support equal rights and environmental responsibility. About all I can do with no money but at least it is something.

Rarely works.  What works is putting people into office who believe in that to begin with and then you don't have to bug them about it.