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Base levels surprise (or not)

Started by Padma, August 16, 2011, 05:13:13 AM

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Padma

I just got my blood results back from a couple of weeks ago, taken in preparation for starting HRT/AA next month.

The levels thing is very confusing, as if you look on the web, there are numerous different measurement systems and numerous conflicting "normal range" levels cited.

But on the blood results sheet I got from the GP, the levels (and "normal" ranges cited in brackets) are these:

Testosterone 20.6 nmol/L (9.9-27.8 )
Oestradiol 147pmol/L (28-156)
[will be filed as: 4465.00 Serum oestradiol level]


Assuming that these "normal" levels are for men, my T is fairly high in the range; but my E is way up the top end - iiiiinteresting...

If anyone with expert understanding of these figures has anything useful to tell me about them, I'd be interested to hear it. Random ill-informed hearsay welcome too, of course ;D.
Womandrogyne™
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Cindy

Totally normal for  a mature healthy person with testicles.  A normal range is just that, doesn't matter if you are high or low on the NR it means you are 'normal' for that measurement. Rather see your LFT. And I do not mean that literally, your GGT and AST are more of interest to your medic.

This may be a surprise and I still get people asking but being in the normal range for anything is indeed normal, it does not matter where you sit in the NR.  Depending how the normal range is set, which is usually set on 95% principles, ie 10 % of the population, a statistical population, are considered to be abnormal. Why. Don't get me started on Stats.

Cindy

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AbraCadabra

Hi Cindy,
since you have a take on this stuff:
Here mine...
Prolactin  38  given range    4 - 15      ug/l
Total T     0.7 given range  8.0 - 18.7  nmol/l
SHBG   212.9 given range 11.4 - 52.3 nmol/l
Free T calc. 3 given range  180 - 419  pmol
Estr.      734  given range      < 208    pmol/l
Pro         0.8 given range       0.7 4.7  nmaol

It seem to look quite different to Padma's.
I guess it suggest hypogonadism i.e. twin factory shutdown?
Plus E dominant as a result?

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Cindy

Sorry Axelle,

Susan's rules come in here and for many reasons I'm not going to break them. My comments to Padma were very general, and that is why I didn't want to see her GTT or AST, her medic can decide on them. I was giving general opinion. I cannot and will not comment on your Biochem results, it would be unprofessional.

Cindy
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AbraCadabra

Oh sure,
only looked for a 'general opinion' if that was allowed?

Any diff to PM or email such?

If not, no issue.
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Padma

The one thing that's apparent from sifting through the 'net is that different countries use very different models and units and "normal ranges" so a comparison is fiddly as hell right from the get-go anyway.

I just find it interesting that my E is high in the normal range. If it means nothing much, then that's fine with me :).
Womandrogyne™
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eli77

Quote from: Padma on August 16, 2011, 08:16:53 AM
I just find it interesting that my E is high in the normal range. If it means nothing much, then that's fine with me :).

My E was 209 pmol/L at baseline. Doctor didn't seem bothered.
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AbraCadabra

Woopsy,
with my E of 734 pmol/l , I look like being preggers.

E can go up to 2000 pmol/l if you are.
No fear in your case as it seems.

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Padma

Womandrogyne™
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AbraCadabra

No joke I did ONLY drink bottled water, sparkling... that would be worse yet?

All the E in the plastic bottles you seem to say, yes?

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Padma

So they tell us :). I'm trying to make the best use of it...
Womandrogyne™
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AbraCadabra

So?
You can save E on HRT, eh?

Call it: "killing two birds with a stone"

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Padma

...or in this case, "killing 2 stones" :)
Womandrogyne™
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AmySmiles

My baseline levels were along those lines as well.  I don't remember the numbers, but I know my T was at the upper end of the normal range and my E was the highest number in the normal range.  Wish I could give you more than that, but my doctor never gave me my levels in writing - only verbally (and I've forgotten).  I do know they were measured in different units because the numbers I was given are way different than yours.
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AbraCadabra

European, add SA, units are different to US, that's why.

US likes to use their different units to most rest of the word.

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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