All the things listed in the OP's first post can and do happen.   I think that they can be viewed as punishments inflicted upon the transperson.   Punishments?   What do I mean by this?  Well, I have come lately to suspect that cis-gendered people in the depths of their heart view transsexuality as being a sexual fetish.    And as transsexuals insist upon taking this 'fetish' out of the bedroom and flaunting their 'perversion' in other people's faces they must be punished for their actions.  If transsexuality wasn't  secretly seen as a sexual fetish/perversion by the wider community, then why would people really care if you 'swapped' gender?     Are we seen as being unforgivably and perhaps intolerably indiscreet by the general population?

So bye...again...I don't think I'll be missed.

Do you know why, when they count up the great boarders you're not going to be one of them.  Because at that exact moment, you'll pass on greatness, it's just going to prove to be too hard.

if one is fortunate enough to live in a country where unemployment benefits are available for all[in other words one is give enough to live on-covering one's basic needs] and HRT is subsidised and where the government shows compassion and allows some of the less fortunate[money wise] get government funded surgery, then financially it's not so bad even if one does happen to loose their job...

Of course, you do have to live with the knowledge that no one thinks you're worth hiring.  That day in and day out people have worth to society, and you're not one of them.  Sure, your Buddhist buddies think your swell, but when it comes to getting things done, your name doesn't pop up on anyone's phone.  I'm not sure that's 'worth it'.

I've read all 228 pages of NCTE's report Injustice at Every Turn. (Have you?)

No, but then again, I'm employed.

But I have read the 529 pages of the SF Fire Code.

Quote from: tekla on August 20, 2011, 06:46:23 PM
So bye...again...I don't think I'll be missed.

Do you know why, when they count up the great boarders you're not going to be one of them.  Because at that exact moment, you'll pass on greatness, it's just going to prove to be too hard.

That's a grade A cheap shot and you know it, but then that's pretty much what your entire repetoire consists of really. This place used to be fun, it even helped me through some dark times in the beggining, but it's just so unbelievebaly negative and filled with an all pervading victim mentality that it is certainly poisonous to me and probably works in more insidious ways on others. If you dare to suggest that, by walking away from a situation that is harmful to me and which in turn causes me to be harmful to others, I am some how less, then you are really not as much of human as I gave you credit for.

Oh, and for my cheap parting shot...this place isn't real life, it's something to distract you while real life passes you buy...guessed you missed a lot of it then.

And finally, I don't really care about being counted up as one of the great boarders, all I care about is having fun with my friends and riding some gravity...anything else I achieve on a longboard is just an extra layer of icing on an already amazing cake.

Long, long ago.  Before Broken Arrow was a real run, back when it was - you know - 'out of bounds' - it was said that everyone walked out to Broken Arrow.  Half of them walked back.

Talking about careers and acceptance.  They are advertising for police recruits in my area.  I am thinking of testing the waters.  Do you think that the police is a good place for people like us or is law enforcement still full of machismo and 1950s morality?   Women police officers get to wear a really nice hat.  I'll see if I can find a picture for you.

And remember... Brutality is the FUN part of the job.

I think that the police have a sort of quasi-military mind-set.   See what you think of these hats.

Quote from: tekla on August 20, 2011, 06:52:18 PM
Sure, your Buddhist buddies think your swell, but when it comes to getting things done, your name doesn't pop up on anyone's phone.  I'm not sure that's 'worth it'.

Kia Ora ,

Just for the record Tekla,  I've fully transitioned and work in both paid and voluntary positions[actually helping others, mostly straight "cisgender " people less fortunate than myself]... I'm not quite sure where you're at Tekla with your comments...But I guess it all makes sense to you so.............

BTW The last I hear NZ was not a "Buddhist" country...

Metta Zenda

 See what you think of these hats.

Those sure are cute hats 

They look better in person so to speak.

Here I thought I was looking at the reason that riots last days in England when they would last hours anywhere else.  That third cop couldn't chase down a doughnut looter.

The man who invented those 'high visibility jackets '  ought to have been strangled at birth.  Those jackets are spreading like a fungus.  It used to be only road construction crews who wore them.  A few months ago a woman behind a shop till was wearing one.

Quote from: Princess of Hearts on August 20, 2011, 07:29:44 PM
Talking about careers and acceptance.  They are advertising for police recruits in my area.  I am thinking of testing the waters.  Do you think that the police is a good place for people like us or is law enforcement still full of machismo and 1950s morality?   Women police officers get to wear a really nice hat.  I'll see if I can find a picture for you.

Youll want to look into thenspecific depsrtment thats hiring.  It will differ from region to region, at least from what ive been looking at in the states.  San Francisco city PD will be more accepting than Jacksonville NC PD.

Many departments in my area (Cali USA) seem more open, so mighht be worth looking into (ill be considering it later down the line). 

Of course she's in Scottland, and in Cali, well, the criminals here have automatic weapons, and use them.  Kind of the down side to the job.

So yeah, when they are not laying off cops, they are hiring them in Oakland.  They had five die in one day in a shootout(s).  Same with SF, we just laid off a bunch, but I'm sure they are going to have to replace the three that got taken out with an AK-47 last year.

Quote from: Princess of Hearts on August 20, 2011, 10:31:46 PM
Those jackets are spreading like a fungus.  It used to be only road construction crews who wore them.

I only had to wear those annoying things a few times.  And I was in a building.  When everyone is wearing them, they're not so obvious.  But that was before I transitioned, when I still had a job.  Oh, I forgot, I didn't lose my job because I'm trans.  Must have been alien intervention.

Quote from: Renate on August 20, 2011, 07:08:53 PM
I've read all 228 pages of NCTE's report Injustice at Every Turn. (Have you?)

Yes, I did.  But now I'm finding it's just propaganda.  They LIED to us!  We have nothing to fear.  There is no prejudice, no discrimination, no hatred and no reason to be stealth.  Everywhere we go we can proudly declare, "I am transgender!"

Who's first?

Quote from: Cindy Stephens on August 20, 2011, 03:28:30 PM
My point is that it is possible, but boy, you better be prepared and it ain't as easy as some would like you to believe.

I did read the study.  They admit that their sample isn't representative of the transgender population, and even go as far to say it shouldn't be applied to the transgender population as a whole.  Further that they paid community workers to collect surveys puts the validity of those responses at risk.

We all agree that transition is difficult, but the OP stated "Financially, Transitioning Can Be A Disaster".  Yes it can, if you fail to plan, you plan to fail.  People have changed employers, changed careers, put off transition until they were more financially stable.  Rushing into a transition you didn't make adequate plans for is a disaster.

I quite frankly do not have time to read the entire document, merely the the executive summary.  However, I went back to double check the methodology.  They did not pay community organizers, though they did provide food at gatherings.  The only reason that it may not be truly random is that it had to be drawn from acknowledged TG sources.  The US Census doesn't include the questions.  You would need to ask questions from an enormous, broad population to derive a representative, random population of trans.  Typical polls run what? 5000 people of the type desired.  To get a random group of trans, would require a random sample, if assuming 1 percent of trans/total population, 500,000 people.  Cost prohibitive.  Sorry if you feel personally attacked.  I have not intended too.  I can be sharp at times, I am sorry if it was me who offended you.  Further, I don't try to be negative, merely a realist.  I agree.  Failing to plan is a problem.  Unfortunately, I find that many, including myself, experience a quantum growth in dysphoria at the exact time we should be making career choices.  It is easy to condemn the victim.  One of Adolph Hitlers' Generals wife was a Jew.  She got to go to all the big parties, right through the war.  One cannot then infer that the Jews didn't have it so bad!  We got pink triangles. We have been hunted down, tortured, imprisoned, murdered and executed by bigoted religious types for at least 2000 years.   Even Black people can point to a previous high culture in places like Ethiopia and feel a sense of connectedness.  We have none of that.  We fight with each other over piffles.  Those that have done well while transitioning, good for you.  I admit to being a bit jealous.  I have done well in life, better than most, but at the expense of delays and accommodation.  I made those decisions to get and keep what I wanted.  But I never forget that an ->-bleeped-<- world of holier than thous kept me from, in the words of the anti-Christ "Oprah"-my best life.