Do you girls(or guys) think there's a difference between being pretty and being able to pass as a regular female?

I think there is.
There's a lot of androgynous MTFS out there who don't exactly pass but are definitely attractive.
opinions? :3

I never really thought of it that way before, but it's also subject to how one defines "pretty" and "passable."  Is it physical?  Mental?  Is it about confidence?

Quote from: Zoë Natasha on August 26, 2011, 06:58:20 PM
I never really thought of it that way before, but it's also subject to how one defines "pretty" and "passable."  Is it physical?  Mental?  Is it about confidence?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?
Can you get any more cliche, Joey?

I personally am too old to be conceded pretty, so I settle for "passable".  Some don't believe that I am 57, so I guess I am not bad for an old broad.

Yes.  Most natal females pass as women, yet all are not pretty- at least by conventional standards or whatevs.

Quote from: Jen on August 26, 2011, 07:06:21 PM
Yes.  Most natal females pass as women, yet all are not pretty- at least by conventional standards or whatevs.

I agree! (Even though its the vice versa of what I said... so ofc I agree with it)

Quote from: Irish Janet on August 26, 2011, 07:05:32 PM
I personally am too old to be conceded pretty, so I settle for "passable".  Some don't believe that I am 57, so I guess I am not bad for an old broad.

Old? Mature is a much flattering word, I'm sure you're fine (:

Judge for yourself. 

Quote from: Irish Janet on August 26, 2011, 07:12:45 PM
Judge for yourself. 

Your skin was the first thing I noticed, it looks good for "mature" skin 
I think you're cute! haha

No. Pretty does not equal passable. I know, I am an example of that weird happening.

I was stopped dead in my tracks at a party :
"Excuse me? "
(me) hi
"You are really pretty, the girls here aren't as pretty as you. I wish I was so adorable."
thanks.

Danke Fräulein

Quote from: EmmaM on August 26, 2011, 07:17:38 PM
No. Pretty does not equal passable. I know, I am an example of that weird happening.

I was stopped dead in my tracks at a party :
"Excuse me? "
(me) hi
"You are really pretty, the girls here aren't as pretty as you. I wish I was so adorable."
thanks.

I bet you felt flattered though
I sometimes got the ol' "Wow you'd make a cute girl" comment thing when I was in boy mode.
and it always made me feel confident :B

Quote from: Irish Janet on August 26, 2011, 07:18:26 PM
Danke Fräulein

oooo german!
Not my best language lol.
but you're welcome~

Quote from: Joeyboo~ :3 on August 26, 2011, 06:52:16 PM
Do you girls(or guys) think there's a difference between being pretty and being able to pass as a regular female?

I think there is.
There's a lot of androgynous MTFS out there who don't exactly pass but are definitely attractive.
opinions? :3

     Yes, just because you pass does not mean you're pretty. There is a difference. xD
   

I'm passable but by no means pretty.

I am my worst critic.  No less do I think I am not passable I think I am ugly.

If I was pretty then I would pass.

However I must solve internal problems because I thought I was ugly even as a male and others told me I was handsome.

I'd say they are different.

I'd define pretty as delicate features and passable as female looking.

Now, although delicate features can aid female lookingness, there are plenty of females without delicate features. So a person can be passable without being pretty.

Quote from: Joeyboo~ :3 on August 26, 2011, 07:25:19 PM
I bet you felt flattered though
I sometimes got the ol' "Wow you'd make a cute girl" comment thing when I was in boy mode.
and it always made me feel confident :B

oooo german!
Not my best language lol.
but you're welcome~

I was, since the girl who said it was a cis girl belly dancer, and kept watching me all night! I had a cute paper boy escort though, and (s)he had dibs. That was a crazy night.

Wait a second Pica, I don't quite have delicate features!

Pretty much what the others said.

Pretty is not necessarily passable - voice or something else can easily tip the scale
Passable is not necessarily pretty - not all women are pretty, but they tend to pass as women

Quote from: Pica Pica on August 26, 2011, 08:07:56 PM
I'd say they are different.

I'd define pretty as delicate features and passable as female looking.

Now, although delicate features can aid female lookingness, there are plenty of females without delicate features. So a person can be passable without being pretty.

O.K. but if I was pretty would I be passable?  I think pretty equate to feminine.   I do agree that vocie can be masculine and you do not pass even though you are pretty.  However if I were pretty then I would solve next issues.  I do not evn have confidence that if I pass then I would be accepted.  How could I pass if I am ugly?  These are my issues because I know people that have little chance of passing that pass.  They passed prior to FFS and their feature were masculine.  Attitude is a large part of passing.

Quote from: wendy on August 26, 2011, 08:21:19 PM
O.K. but if I was pretty would I be passable?  I think pretty equate to feminine.   I do agree that vocie can be masculine and you do not pass even though you are pretty.  However if I were pretty then I would solve next issues.  I do not evn have confidence that if I pass then I would be accepted.  How could I pass if I am ugly?  These are my issues because I know people that have little chance of passing that pass.  They passed prior to FFS and their feature were masculine.  Attitude is a large part of passing.

I don't consider myself passable because of my voice and my adam's apple.
My voice is extremely low and I try my best to make it higher but no luck so far.

I was trying to make a point in all of this, saying just because people say you don't pass that it shouldn't get you down because you could still have some nice features.
Someone will find you attractive/pretty/hot/sexy/whatever

Some very sexy (pretty) women have low voices.
Check this site out for some names.
http://www.annoying.com/(S(vow2tt45d3rzac55wr0ijo45))/collection.aspx?collection=3539

Oh and don't get me wrong low voiced women are not all annoying.