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Transsexuals using the word Transgender

Started by Valeriedances, September 10, 2011, 06:38:14 AM

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Nemo

Quote from: Padma on September 10, 2011, 07:04:08 AM
It depends where you are in the world. In Britain the diagnosis is "transgender"...

Actually..

* Nemo reads from GIC letter:

From our findings during the assessment we feel there is evidence to confirm he has a diagnosis of Primary Transsexualism and Gender Dysphoria

Unless it's a regional thing, I'd be interested to know where you got that from. Although I do agree that the -sexual part makes it sound like some kind of fetish or something, and no doubt is why cis-folk get confused about it all  :icon_neutral:

To answer the question: I say transsexual because it more accurately describes my physical state. I also use transgender because I'm genderqueer :P


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Super Amanda

 I used to be bothered by terminology also, even had a similar discussion on another forum. The problem is that the world is still largely uninformed about any transgendered people, and so are many of us, so there is this large amount of varying vocabulary. I think that most branches of ->-bleeped-<- are still being perfected as far as terminology goes, and the best thing we can do is stay informed about any changes.

On top of the aforementioned regional and continental differences, like it or not, many plain (that's right, plain, not not normal) folks associate "transsexual" with some kind of deviant behavior due to the "sexual" part, which I understand. I say understand, not approve or endorse. So like others, I adjust my description based on the level of understanding being shown to me by whomever I'm speaking with. If I see that they understand nothing trans, I like to use transgendered, which I feel has a softer sound to it. I use transsexual around friends and family, because they know the definition. However, I am a transgendered person, and transsexual person, so why should it matter? If one already is familiar with the definitions, then one wouldn't need to ask anyway. It's not like the public at large will be less confused by us if we all stick to the same lingo, right?

Also I don't feel like I have a mental condition that needs to be proclaimed to those not a part of my life, and I only embrace the term "GID" because I had to to get my hormones. Bottom line, our culture is barely coming into it's own, thanks to the Internet, (and Chaz Bono!) and I believe that we'll see a more uniform set of vocabulary as time goes on.

I live in the southwest, in the USA. I'm white and live about 100 miles from Mexico. There are lots of people here who do not speak English. I understand a little Spanish, and many Mexicans understand a bit of English. My point is that we communicate, it may not be pretty, but as long as we understand each other, then what's the problem?
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Sunnynight

I use transgender with most people, even though I actually prefer the term transsexual. Sadly, transsexual brings up images of Jerry Springer in people's minds. Transgender, on the other hand, doesn't come with all that baggage.
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LordKAT

I have been trying to think over the words I use. I don't use either word, nor do I say the 'boy in a girls body' thing.
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~RoadToTrista~

Transsexual, transgender, I don't know what the fck to say, don't care either. Right now I'm just confused, transsexual means post op, transgender means non op or crossdresser? No wait, transsexual implies that it's a sexual orientation and transgender is the correct term? I think I'll just say trans when referring to myself.
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Adabelle

I use transgender more often, and transsexual less often. I currently use "transgender" as an umbrella term, and transsexual as a specific term. Generally when I feel like I'm talking with someone who isn't familiar with trans related stuff I tend to use transgender, and when I'm talking with people who are more familiar with LGBT issues I'll use transsexual. Being transsexual isn't shameful for me, but it's less convenient to have a conversation get hung up because someone takes that word the wrong way.

Also, when I am traveling out of the states I usually just tell people I'm "American" unless I know they would understand what I mean if I said I was a "Washingtonian". The umbrella term is also good enough for me in situations where I don't want to have to describe them that I'm two states above California, and right below Canada. "No, that's not on the Atlantic Ocean... on the Pacific. No, Washington D.C. is on the East Coast and is totally different... etc."

Sometimes it's just easier to be an American - and I feel like sometimes it's easier to just be transgender. But I'm not ashamed of either. :)
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Felecia

Transgender is an umbrella term which people fall under from cross dressers all the way over to people who are transitioning (transsexuals)  Your goal does not necesarilly mean you are aiming for a goal of GRS but that you are making changes.

More info is available from the AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION
http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/transgender.pdf

Felecia
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Rabbit

Quote from: Nygeel on September 10, 2011, 10:37:18 AM
I don't see my being trans as a birth defect, or as simply a medical condition. That implies that being trans is wrong, or that we are some how broken. I feel like that way of thinking is cissexist and can be harmful. I can understand if a person thinks that for themseles but when applying it to everybody else...not cool.

^^^^^

This!

I don't have a birth defect... and for me, this is no more a "medical condition" than "male" or "female" is for everyone else.

As for what word I use. I actually prefer "trans" instead of the full term (of either transsexual or transgender). If I have to say the full term, I use "transgender" (because "sexual" simply gives the wrong message).

I guess because I'm actually "ok" with being "trans", I don't feel as if I fit into the "transsexual" category. I don't aboslutely hate my male "bits" and don't think I have always been a girl in the "wrong body". So, I just don't fit the narrative that everyone seems to have. Yea, I have a lot of "feminine brain" I guess... but it doesn't seem as extreme as others seem to have?

Also, I haven't seen a therapist or anything like that. I basically just went to the doctor and said "pills please", they asked me a couple questions and I was on my way :P

So, for those 2 reasons, I'm not too sure that I actually am "transsexual" (even though I am transitioning)... so, transgender is a nice term to catch me (I'm in there somewhere).
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Keaira

I think it's interesting that my paperwork at my Endo, has transsexual listed as a sexual dysfunction. There is no transgender though. But since my insurance covers my hormones I'm not complaining.
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Cindy

I have to admit I'm one that doesn't really care. Sorry if that upsets. My GP referred me on to 'the team' to investigate transgender issues.

If you want to go nuts.

Your rhinosinusitis isn't caused by an an allergy so you  have eosinophilic mucal rhinosinusitis. There we have cured you.  But Dr I have really bad hay fever. Of course you have, that's what causes it. Ignorant patients can't they understand simple language.

Sorry I was not trying to be sarcastic or rude.

I really think we should all take five steps back in language debates about gender and sexuality. I don't think they are ever very productive. They get people upset for reasons others cannot understand.

And as long as our treatment people know what to do, so what? :laugh:

Cindy
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V M

Call yourself transsexual, transgender or whatever you personally identify as and feel comfortable with... I'm okay with it... But if you identify as a spider monkey or orangutan, I just may want to hang out with you  :laugh:
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Cindy

Quote from: V M on September 12, 2011, 04:27:39 AM
Call yourself transsexual, transgender or whatever you personally identify as and feel comfortable with... I'm okay with it... But if you identify as a spider monkey or orangutan, I just may want to hang out with you  :laugh:

And wash your back if you wash mine
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Padma

I'm now closing this topic, at Valerie's request.
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