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Heavenly Father, forgive me for what I am about to write...

Started by Nemo, September 04, 2011, 05:20:09 PM

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Nemo

... but I am seriously pissed at a certain someone, who I'll refer to as A - that someone being the guy I mentioned in this thread. I'm using that one for updates, but I need to get some rather un-Christian feelings off my chest if I'm to be able to sleep tonight, and if that means writing him a letter that only you guys will read, so be it. I've just had enough now.
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The tears I might have shed for your dark fate
grow cold and turn to tears of hate!
~ Christine Daae, Phantom of the Opera

Dear A,

You came across as a very needy individual, one I saw a lot of my past self in. You told me how people disrespect you, that your defense is to push people away to avoid being hurt. We even had a chat last week, where I pointed out to you that your big problem with making friends is that you don't trust anybody. In all the times we've spoken about this, every time I've spoken through personal experience. I wanted to help you, like I do a lot of people - however, in the past couple of weeks, the compassion I had for you has all but evaporated.

I will admit, due to my inexperience in dealing with people like you, I made a few mistakes, one or two being immensely stupid ones. I shouldn't have let you persuade me inside for a chat, although I did manage to get away from the situation in the end, praise God. The only reason that happened was through another blunder, that of sharing with you something I'd barely realised myself and was telling only a select few at the time. Although the only reason I told you at all was so you'd stop trying to coax me into a relationship when I'd already told you no - several times. I feared for my safety, that's the only reason I told you I'm trans. And what happened after that? Dr Jekyll left the building, and Mr Hyde began assaulting me with Scripture I'd already read. Good job I was already aware of this kind of argument and was able to defend myself, escaping where necessary. The next night you almost outed me to D when I hadn't told him yet, and that was about the last I heard of you, save the odd brief greeting at church.

Over a year has passed. I'm still living at the same place, we have a new housemate moving in tomorrow, work's been going great despite - or even because of - my trans status; you know, the one you tried to tell me was "leading me away from God". I bumped into you last Sunday, where we had another of those long talks, me foolishly thinking (or rather, hoping) that last year was water under the bridge and that you'd leave me alone. No such luck, huh?

Let's see: Okay, you were feeling suicidal again. Sorry to hear it. When I told you to talk to a vicar and/or get prayer to help you feel a bit better, I said it for a reason. You didn't need me to go back with you to "make sure you don't hurt yourself", that's what seeing a vicar is for. However, when you then asked if I'm Christian, and then told me that Christians should "help the needy?" That was low, A. Oh, I wasn't fooled for a minute - I knew damn well what you were doing. Manipulative, much?

Then you said you "were struggling with your sexuality and might be bi" - okay, you might be, but again, I saw what you were trying to do. This after I had to keep reminding you that I'm male and not a lesbian/any other kind of female? Come off it. All your telling me you "found me attractive as a man", and even - no, especially - wanting to have sex with me "as a man", then talking about sucking my nipples and asking how big they are... ugh. My skin crawls just thinking about that. You crossed a line, big time. I told you I'm not interested in the idea - several times. Fine, it might help you to get intimate with another human being, but you have a lot of work to do before you're anywhere near desirable enough to have that encounter. No, it won't help me feel any better - as I told you, it would more likely have the opposite effect, but that's not the point.

D was at a weekend festival. I usually love having the place to myself, but as I walked home I was praying he'd come back sooner rather than later. I thanked God when I got home the following day to find him in the kitchen. I told him what had happened, he then said you'd even propositioned him! Whether it made me feel any better I don't know, but just the fact you were still trying it on a year later shook me up pretty badly. Suddenly I didn't feel safe anymore; I had reservations about going to church the next Sunday, I felt uneasy in my own home even, because you're close by. I was having a mini-freak out about it all, to be honest.

Partly through D's advice, I reported this to my small group. It transpired through this that you'd not only get into fights or generally harass people, but you were even known to follow folk home. I left that night feeling even worse about the events of last week, and by the time I got to church this week, it was probably apparent in my manner as I approached the vicar about it. Thankfully she too had heard about your antics and went to have a word with you about it, since you were already in the foyer - I don't know how that went, but it didn't seem to have much effect by the time you showed up again during post-service coffee.

I walked past you before the service for a reason; not only did your very presence send a shiver up my spine, but I needed to see the vicar. She certainly didn't need to tell me to stay away from you, or walk away if you approached - and I found that much easier to do than I would have once thought. Oh, you started off civil enough, like you - sometimes do, before asking yet again if I'm "still going through this change" - why do you keep asking, just out of interest? Especially when I told you last week I'd been on HRT for about 10 months. Yes, I'm "still" changing my sex, are you going to keep asking this once I've had the last op?!

So, what happened after that? No propositioning this time, thankfully - although was it because I turned you down last week that you defaulted to Assault By Scripture? Yes, I turned you down (again), boo hoo. I've told you why too many times. I shouldn't have to keep telling you just because you have mental health problems and the Jekyll/Hyde traits they seem to give you make you unapproachable at times. I almost found it funny when you started with the "God made you a woman/the Bible says.." again - but I wasn't smiling. In fact I got pretty angry and told you in no uncertain terms not to start that crap with me again. But of course you don't listen, do you. So I did the only thing I could - I walked away. Talk to the hand, I'm not here - I'm over in this corner feeling pretty shaky from the encounter. Partly through just being in confrontation, 'cause I hate it - but mainly I was shaking through rage.

Why do I still let myself get so angry at ignoramuses like you?! Why, despite being a non-violent person, did I still feel like punching you? Why, despite being so passive and accepting of people, do I feel consumed by hatred? I can only come to the conclusion that you're such a toxic presence you bring out the utter worst in me, and that's quite frightening, to be honest. I don't enjoy feeling like this. I want to feel safe in my own church/neighbourhood. You may be a good-natured person if not for the demons running riot in your soul, but as it stands you're a dangerous man and you are to stay the hell away from me. Seriously.

If I have to be confronted by you again, I will tell you in no uncertain terms to leave me alone. Persistence after this will get the police involved, because if there is a next time it will become harassment. I have enough problems without having to deal with a stalker. I hope to God that by the time you turn up to church next week, you'll be escorted away before you have the chance to start anything.

By the way, since you're so fond of Scripture, here's one for you:

22 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' 23 Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' ~ Matthew 7:22-23

TLDR: Leave me alone before I call the cops, arsehole >:(

Sam


New blog in progress - when I conquer my writer's block :P
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Amazon D

That person is a letch. They really need to get castrated or take some castration type drugs. I am sorry for you Nemo. Your too nice to put up with that person. That person is in a bad place due to their bodies chemistry, which is affecting their mind. I too was a letch at one time. I was not as bad as that person though. I didn't harrass people from churches, however, i did harrass neighbors who also cared for me. I knew i had a problem and i did deal with it. I also had a gender issue which compounded my problem. However, my idea of transitioning was to get away from sex and not seek it. I didn't want to be that type of person. Its been over 15 yrs since i had been chemically castrated with HRT then 3 months later i had an orchie and then 6 months later i got GRS and was finally able to go back to prepuberty and regrow up to be the person i am today. I do love myself. I know that person hates themself. Your welcome to share this to them in some safe way. Maybe they might go out and get an orchiectomy and finally be able to think clearly. They may or may not have a GID issue too but they do have the problem you mention. I too remember pushing people away from me because i didn't trust them. Wow talk about taking me back pre transitioning. I do respect you for trying to help that person but they do need to get help. If they are saying things like that to you God knows what they are saying to other people. They must truly hate themselves. Thats a terrible place to be.
Hugs there Nemo and May God Bless you and watch over you and keep you safe. 
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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Sage

Holy crap, Nemo, this is just awful!   :o  I sincerely hope things get better for you, and that this cantankerous person is dealt with, swiftly!   >:(  That guy is such a jerk!

You'll be in my prayers for sure.  Stay safe and be strong.   :D
"Be whoever you are, but be loud. Be completely fearless when you do it. That's the big thing. Just be a fearless person. A fearless artist, a fearless accountant. Whatever you want to be." - Gerard Way, My Chemical Romance

私は死にかむ。
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Ryno

I too have been that kind of person once, but not nearly to that stalkerish degree. I was just in a bad relationship where my ex would toy with my feelings to the point where it sort of drove me crazy... not to mention my mom was kind of dying of cancer. It was a pretty horrible time and I'm still paying for it. Reading this is sort of reinforcing a growing desire to start going to church to help sort out my life.

Ultimately, a person like this needs to learn self-reliance to pull through. It's hard but his problems are certainly not your responsibility, nor anyone else's. Just do what it takes to keep him out of your life. If it ever makes you feel guilty, remember you're doing him a favour by not letting him manipulate you.
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Nemo

Thanks for the support, folks :) Will see what happens this Sunday...

Amazon: Thanks for the insightful reply - can you make someone get an orchie, though? :-\ May or may not be his problem, I just don't know.

Synkronic: I'm past feeling guilty or wanting to help TBH, I'm just at that point where I've had enough. Nothing I can do to help, that's been made pretty clear. But thanks for sharing, you two xx


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Sandy

He is an emotional vampire and is performing mental rape on you!

He is manipulating you by his mere presence.  How can you open your soul to scripture and spirit in church knowing that he is behind you looking at you or in front of you and you are wondering if he is going to turn around and stare at you?  And during fellowship he manipulates you again by forcing you to constantly be aware of his presence and keep yourself on guard for another assault.  You cannot feel safe in the streets for fear of him stalking you and perhaps even physically assaulting you.  I'm sure he feels he can "cure" you through proper hetero-normative sex, even if it has to be without your consent.

Send him the letter.  But change the part about getting the police involved.  Swear out a peace bond on him. 

You are too dear to us to lose or be harmed.  Please be safe.

-Sandy
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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rensie

Hope things work out for you and the stalker disappears from your life but after reading your posts I think you are an exceptionally brave person.  Thank you for sharing all things you're going threw.
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Amazon D

Quote from: Synkronic on September 08, 2011, 09:07:57 PM
I too have been that kind of person once, but not nearly to that stalkerish degree. I was just in a bad relationship where my ex would toy with my feelings to the point where it sort of drove me crazy... not to mention my mom was kind of dying of cancer. It was a pretty horrible time and I'm still paying for it. Reading this is sort of reinforcing a growing desire to start going to church to help sort out my life.
Ultimately, a person like this needs to learn self-reliance to pull through. It's hard but his problems are certainly not your responsibility, nor anyone else's. Just do what it takes to keep him out of your life. If it ever makes you feel guilty, remember you're doing him a favour by not letting him manipulate you.

God forgives you as long as you don't keep doing this kind of stuff. I know i am forgiven. Be careful of feeling like a church will save you from yourself. I use to do that and then did the exact opposite. I used going to church to balance out being a jerk. Its best to just do what needs to be done so you feel good about yourself.

And NEMO i don't know how you can force that person to get an orchie. They need to maybe try some spiranolactone to see how it reduces their sex drive and then let them decide to go further and stop it permenantly.
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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tekla

Does exposure to religion create these kind of people, or are they just all naturally drawn to religious stuff?
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Nemo

tekla: Given that there are plenty of sane, decent people who happen to be religious, I'd say the latter. If the person is already screwed up in some way it'll only make them worse. Thing is though, he doesn't go to church, he just hangs around there. He doesn't attend the services - if he did he might learn something :P

Amazon: My point is, unless someone in a professional standing suggests it to him or he realises there's a problem, he isn't gonna do it. You don't fix what you don't know/think is broken.

Sandy: Aww, thanks :3 I didn't write the letter with the intention of sending it to him though, I just wrote it to let off some steam. You're right about the emotional vampire bit though - as I mentioned above, he doesn't attend the service, it's just the before and after he shows up, which is plenty bad enough.

tarte: Thanks :) I've just lived too long to put up with any ->-bleeped-<- nowadays - and transition's only made me stronger. As a woman I was a doormat :-\

Still, I have something to look forward to tomorrow - seeing another of my friends from support group. Two weeks running I've had a nice day/night out with one of my mates - I could get used to having a social life ;D


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mimpi

Sorry to hear what happened, Nemo.

He's a nasty piece of work and best avoided. As for him giving it large with religion tell him where to shove it and remind him that it's between you and God and none of his business. And of course he has zero rights to judge you, that is for God alone to do.

Religious hypocrisy really is the pits, plagues all religions including my own. We say God is forgiving and that is what we hope for at the end of the day.

Stay strong and dont let the b*st*rd get you down. :)
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Sage

Quote from: mimpi on September 11, 2011, 04:07:35 PM
Sorry to hear what happened, Nemo.

He's a nasty piece of work and best avoided. As for him giving it large with religion tell him where to shove it and remind him that it's between you and God and none of his business. And of course he has zero rights to judge you, that is for God alone to do.

Religious hypocrisy really is the pits, plagues all religions including my own. We say God is forgiving and that is what we hope for at the end of the day.

Stay strong and dont let the b*st*rd get you down. :)
Couldn't have said it better myself, mimpi!  You're tough, Nemo, and you're gonna be just fine!   ;D
"Be whoever you are, but be loud. Be completely fearless when you do it. That's the big thing. Just be a fearless person. A fearless artist, a fearless accountant. Whatever you want to be." - Gerard Way, My Chemical Romance

私は死にかむ。
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