I apologize if I seemed to be verbally attacking anyone and I do not recall any name calling from anyone.

Personally, I take issue with any statement about 'GGs can wear anything they want'. Sorry -- do not pass go, do not collect $200.

When a GG wears pants she is not attempting pass fully as male. When we wear a dress, we do attempt to pass as female.

I offer this. I wear a kilt. In fact, its a denim kilt, not a traditional tartan (although I have those too). My denim kilt is for day to day wear to the store, going to the movies, etc. I make no attempt at the time to look femme. That said, however, to the general public, an un-bifurcated garment such as a kilt is a skirt. Do I catch any schtick from the public. No.

Now, to go the other side -- how many GGs do you know who pack or wear jockstraps or tighty-whities -- very much the equivalent of us wearing panties bras and breast forms. Can you not agree that woman in a 3 piece suit with a white shirt and tie would get as many glances as a guy in a dress.

While I do agree that things are a little bit more relaxed, they are no were near what many MTF CDers perceive.

Huggles

Toni-Lynn

I read with interest the post about FTM crossdressing and how you can't tell if women are trying to look like men or just wearing the clothes.  From my own experience I will say that the clothes without the intention to present oneself as the opposite sex mean nothing.  I have dressed like a man my whole life but never, except when I was very young, ever presented as male. To me wearing the  typical "mans" clothes and being a woman were so natural to my lifestyle that it never occurred to me that I was in fact "crossdressing".

Now fast forward to a few weeks back when my bf and I decided to indulge his fantasy (and mine) and he dressed up in women's clothes.  We discussed me dressing up too and I can tell you I had a moment of panic. Same clothes, same masculine me...but the thought of actually presenting as a man was an entirely different and somewhat scary concept. 

I dig the idea and I will do it one of these days, but the point I am trying to make is that for me, it's all about the intent.