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Started by madirocks, September 17, 2011, 01:00:30 PM

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madirocks

I remember finding a FFS surgeon that also offered elbow surgery. I have super boney elbows, particularly the inner bone that sticks out very far. That's one of my biggest concerns for passing.

Does anyone happen to know who offers this?
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Stephe

Quote from: MADI! on September 17, 2011, 01:00:30 PM
I remember finding a FFS surgeon that also offered elbow surgery. I have super boney elbows, particularly the inner bone that sticks out very far. That's one of my biggest concerns for passing.

Does anyone happen to know who offers this?


I don't mean to sound cruel/mean about this but you honestly think people are going to gender you by your elbows? I REALLY doubt anyone checks out other peoples elbows as a gender clue.
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madirocks

Quote from: Stephe on September 17, 2011, 02:29:52 PM
I don't mean to sound cruel/mean about this but you honestly think people are going to gender you by your elbows? I REALLY doubt anyone checks out other peoples elbows as a gender clue.

Probably. Probably not. But, it's certainly something that bothers me and I'd like to fix it.
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Stephe

Quote from: MADI! on September 17, 2011, 03:13:38 PM
Probably. Probably not. But, it's certainly something that bothers me and I'd like to fix it.

Clearly if this bothers you then get it fixed.

I just wanted to point out I -really- doubt someone will read you by your elbows and that would be something maybe to do after FFS and whatever else is more obvious. There will always be something, larger hands etc that you can obsess as a "readable feature" on ourselves. It's my opinion that we should target the obvious stuff people DO look at and ignore details like this, YMMV
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madirocks

Thank you for the concern. :)
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wendy

I have OCD.  Everything needs to be perfect.  I wore a 35" male sleeve.  I have found 3/4 length females sleeves do not work for me because they come to my elbow.  Now I wear long or short sleeves.

Women do like to be thin.  Are your elbows bony because you are thin?  Do you have a nice figure?  Do you have nice hair?  Do you have a nice face?  A good voice?
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I saw a 50ish MTF while shopping today.  She had FFS and looked fine.  Biggest problem that I saw was she was very self-conscious.  Wow I do same thing as her.  I look around to see if anyone is making fun of me.

We can do some things but we were born with male bodies.  My daughter had a high school friend that freely talked about what she did.  At 15 she had a breast augmentation, started hormones and lived full time as a girl.  By 18 she had her fourth operation which was SRS.  She was saving money so that she could have a 5th operation which would be to shrink her ribs.

She was a Colombian girl and frankly was beautiful.  She was as pretty as young girls on this site.  Yet she had a BA at 15 before taking hormones and at 18 after SRS was saving to shrink her ribs.

I am way excessive but I always find some doctor glad to take my money.
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Do your elbows hurt when you move them?  Can you throw a ball?  Do other people comment about your elbows?  Are your arms real long? 
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madirocks

Thank you Wendy. I have OCD as well.

I am super thin, which is probably why my elbows stick out so much. That will probably change once I am on HRT and my metabolism slows down a bit (hoping!). But I have noticed that gg elbows/ forearms are rather tiny. However, I have been quite blessed I feel. The rest of my frame is quite small and I even noticed today that my hips are almost as wide as my shoulders. :) Again, I haven't started HRT yet so I'm thinking things will turn out well. :) I will for sure need FFS, but only on a few things (nose, chin, adam's apple).

I suppose I am being a little bit too much. Still though if possible I'd like to fix them.  ;)
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~RoadToTrista~

Oooo, I want that too. I hate having this bone stick out, but I thought it would risky to cut off because no one talks about it. >.<
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madirocks

I highly doubt it being risky. Surgeons cut off boney growths such as bone spurs, which is the same idea.
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~RoadToTrista~

Yeah but it's really close to your joints that's why I thought that.
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wendy

Madeleine,

OCD is rampant in our tribe.  No less do we want to pass we want to be beautiful.

I want people to say wow you are pretty.  First I have to "pass".  Then I have to realize how much I need to do to just "pass".

If you feel your identity will not be disclosed are you in your 20's?

If you are in your 20's then HRT will recover most of your hair if it left your head.

If you are in your teens then HRT can influence your skeleton.

If you are bone thing then HRT will not increase your appetite.  It will allow fat redistribution but if you don't care about food then you will remain bone thin.

If you are in your 30's you will have good results.  40's modest results.  50's+ challenged results.

I guess your elbows stick out because you are real thin.  It bothers you but it will not "out" you.

First three things that out you are hair, nose then voice.  I dressed androgynous female today and HRT has been favorable to my chest.  Did not matter.  Chest must be way down on gender list because I was "sir" all day.

Big cities tend to be more liberal and give you some flexibility.  People tend to not care about me because they view me as "super gay" instead of trans.  I do not think gay males do what I do but whatever.

I sense you look pretty good except for bony elbows.  Is this correct?  If yes then it is OK to remove this issue.  However remember OCD causes you to look for next imperfection.  Have you ever tried to pass?  Did you pass?

I sense you can pass now if you try without surgery.  Am I correct?   It is fine to correct an issue but remember OCD is a problem in itself.  OCD comes with you "after" transition.  I wish my other issues would go away but they come with me.
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JenJen2011

Quote from: MADI! on September 17, 2011, 01:00:30 PM
I remember finding a FFS surgeon that also offered elbow surgery. I have super boney elbows, particularly the inner bone that sticks out very far. That's one of my biggest concerns for passing.

Does anyone happen to know who offers this?


Is this a joke? I mean really. I've never heard such a thing.
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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madirocks

Why would I be joking about it?
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Sam(my)I am

Quote from: JenJen2011 on September 19, 2011, 07:32:07 PM
Is this a joke? I mean really. I've never heard such a thing.

bit rude, but at any rate I doubt elbows would give you away I'm not going to say you're silly for wanting to change your elbows (because when you think on it any cosmetic surgery can be called silly) I just want to say bony/long/pointy elbows are on born girls as well, why one of my friends has what I call slender man elbows because when she bends her arm they look almost excessively long but it doesn't bother her and it's not a ugly or bad thing.
Do what you want, but I would like to say just be careful don't ask for any extreme changes, I'm sure you want to look natural ^^.
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wendy

Quote from: Sam(my)I am on September 21, 2011, 08:39:08 AM
I just want to say bony/long/pointy elbows are on born girls as well, why one of my friends has what I call slender man elbows because when she bends her arm they look almost excessively long but it doesn't bother her and it's not a ugly or bad thing.
Do what you want, but I would like to say just be careful don't ask for any extreme changes, I'm sure you want to look natural ^^.

Many genetic males have these skinny lips and they want them to be fuller.  One friend had them enhanced and her lips looked nice.  But another acquaintance enhanced them so much that she looked like a vacuum cleaner.  Her lips did not look bad but they were so big for her that it just would not be what most of us want.
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I got an evaluation from plastic surgeon on my body.  I wanted to know price for lipo on my middle.  He told me I need a breast lift and a breast enhancement.  I never even asked for that.  When estimate came to my house it had all expenses needed to improve my breasts and nothing for lipo work.  In fact lady that wrote estimate told me she is not judgemental but tries to get what patient needs.  (Well when someone is not judgmental then why are they telling me they are not judgmental?)   Oh yeah back to story.............

Well hormones gave me natural C's.  A genetic girl (genetic girl of close t-girl friend) that got BA ask  me where I got my BA.  I told her they were natural.  She asked if I would show them to her and she them believed me.

Here's were story gets more upsetting.  Plastic surgeon told me my breast need mastoplexy which is breast lift.  He positioned girls where they would look higher.  Wow I would like them to be higher.

Another  close T-girl friend had mastoplexy and BA by same surgeon.  They look fine but I can see scar around nipple area and below breast for insert.  I have so little confidence in myself that one surgeon made me feel my breasts are not nice.  It was one thing I felt I did not need.   Surgeons will sell you anything!  They need to pay for that big house and big boat and fast cars and expensive vacations.

Oh yeah another surgeon from same group told me I need my trachea shaved.  My Adam's apple is small for a genetic male.  Another surgeon told me that shaving trachea would be waste of money but offered me an alternate level of facial work for $50,000.

T-girl that got breast work insisted that I go get a wig.  I bought a cheap $20 wig that looked really good on me.  She did my make-up and I passed.  It is all very odd to me.  I wanted to be pretty so much that I would spend almost anything.  Yet a $20 wig did trick of getting me to pass at some level since I do have male pattern baldness.  I figured a cap would be enough and it helped but was not as good as a cheap wig.

Do what you need for yourself.  Do what makes you feel comfortable but remember surgeons will take your money for any reason.

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Oh one final story since I am such a chatterbox.  Meet a T-girl at a conference yesterday and commented on her beautiful and slender figure.  Asked her how I could get such a nice figure.  She told me she had cancer and lost major pieces of both lungs, she no longer had energy to do major activities.  She was very happy she had no cancer for four years but she surely wished she could have my figure and energy.  Wow I felt very foolish at multiple levels.  We ate dinner together and exchanged phone numbers.  She was very nice but my potato farmer girl figure seemed fine yesterday.  In fact several people took pictures of me as a girl.  I dislike anyone taking pictures of me as a male and my features are nice ...for a male.

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madirocks

Thank you for the wonderful advice, Wendy. And that was an absolutely fantastic story.
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