With this, my 1000th post, I bid y'all adieu.  Well some at least, because I know where those in the exodus have gone to and I have a fair number of friends over there that had originally been made here.  I'm not going to mince words like I know that Val did when she posted her exit speech a few days ago...

This was a site I had stumbled on a few months back while looking for something completely unrelated to transsexuality.  Given the number of years I had functioned in the real world as a former transsexual, I felt there might be elements of that experience that some would find of use.  And I know that SOME have found it useful.  Others, however, elected to take those experiences and claim that it was further indicia of post-operative elitism and a host of other criticisms that were hurled my direction.  I was also taken to task repeatedly because I don't agree with the attempts to redefine what a woman is and I don't agree with the steps some are taking that WILL have the net effect of "othering" the newer transsexuals and that pose a real risk of negating the changes some of us have had in place for decades. 

There was also a growing sense of frustration with the manner in which some of us who were post-operative had found our voices being squelched (and in the case of one poster, silenced entirely).  We have a history that some would seemingly choose to erase in the name of political correctness.  My guess is that, as some here eventually get their surgery, they will grasp why so many of those of us who were formerly transsexual feel as strongly about some of these issues as we do.  Some may even come to understand why some of us subscribe to and will do whatever we can to uphold a binary construct and move on with a normal everyday life in society.  Those will be the people who can avoid looking at opinions such as those I have proffered without claiming that they were hateful or bigoted or any other wholly incorrect claim that certain posters on this site were allowed to use with impunity and without sanction.   

Those that need to find me know how to do so... 

Another one leaving. Best wishes. Ta'ta.

Have a good day and a better tommorow.

~waves good bye to Ann~

Why not wait until your 2,000th post.

I'm sorry to see you leave, but that is certainly your right.

Good luck.

Couldn't resist...




Best of luck

Like lemmings to the sea.  Old posters are abandoning ship.  Take care of yourself Ann.

Ann,

Every post I have read of yours I have read with great interest and respect for you. A voice of some wisdom and much rational experience. Truth is difficult for some, though not all.

Thank you for participating, at least for a while. Unlike some of the more aggressive and virulently mean spirited, I think that your perspectives of the binary societal construct are palatable and believable. Being able to debate issues without disdain and vitriol for others opinions is far more productive to convincing a winning argument. That, I feel is where you have shown best.

You will be missed.


Dawn 

Best of luck Ann!

Z

When i read this topic earlier Ann had 1,000 posts, now only 995, is someone purposely playing games, if they are they are petty and childish, i thought this was a support site, everyone needs to remember who's site this is.

Paula

Paula..It is possible Ann deleted a few of her posts, maybe? I saw 1,000 posts as well.

Bye Ann, I wish you the best, hugs, Tracey

Goodbye Ann, your posts will be missed.

Randi

Take care of yourself and blessings on your future. I lived near the town with the  same name you had bolded. Its a nice place.

Be safe!

Quote from: JenJen2011 on September 22, 2011, 12:22:10 PM
Paula..It is possible Ann deleted a few of her posts, maybe? I saw 1,000 posts as well.

Nope it wasn't Ann .. slowly the post ops are moving on from this site to another

Bye Ann.

No, Ann did not remove any posts, neither did any staff member.  An entire thread was removed by the person who started it.  Ann had made 5 responses in that thread.

Which thread and which member is not important.

" There was also a growing sense of frustration with the manner in which some of us who were post-operative had found our voices being squelched "


Words fail me!   Several have been handing down the transsexual tablets from Mount Sinai.   ........ it seemed to me was full of Transsexual thou shalts and thou shalt nots.    You have not been 'squelched' people just grew tired of all the 'we post-ops are the transsexual elders and keepers of the sacred flame.  Listen to us, do as we say, think as we think or you are just a pretend ->-bleeped-<-!'   To be fair you might not have meant to projection this image but it is how some of you came across.   

Anyone who had the courage of their convictions wouldn't slope of to another anonymous forum(only the chosen few are given the name of this new forum, so if you don't know the web address then you aren't one of the chosen few anointed by the matriarchs of the transsexual/transgender movement and can rot here as far as they are concerned.)

So Adieu to you!

Quote from: Princess of Hearts on September 22, 2011, 05:40:57 PM

(only the chosen few are given the name of this new forum, so if you don't know the web address then you aren't one of the chosen few anointed by the matriarchs of the transsexual/transgender movement and can rot here as far as they are concerned.)

There's always Google--nothing is secret online if you  know how to use it.  But seriously, there is no perfect utopia.  Happiness is found within and, no matter where you run, you will always find misery if you are not truly happy inside.

I will play devils advocate once again...

There is no problem in the message/position that Ann and Val were taking. There was a serious problem with the delivery of that message and a conflict of egos.

There needs to be a place here on susans where they can say what they want to without being completely bitched about.
I will admit that I did report 1 of Anns posts but that was only 1 time and I really thought she could have said her peace in a more politic fashion.
Most of the time I am much happier with the back and forth and so are others.
When an argument is shut down by a third party then it leaves everyone with a bad taste in thier mouth. Moderating a thread and asking for calmer heads would work better than the private mod to usser smack downs and thread closings.
Like I said, it leaves a bad taste. People need to be able to get to the end of an argument before there can be peace.
Some of my best friends in the world have been people who I started out in a state of conflict with. But once the conflict ran its course we were able to find common ground.

We can not get to that stage around here until the cycle is allowed to complete. But we are constantly stoping that cycle for fear it may cause issues. But there in lies the rub, this is causing more issues than it is solving.
This is causeing folks to walk away. If they can not say their peace then they say screw it and move on.

Personally I will miss a few of the gals that left.

Name calling is not the proper way to communicate here. 

This is a good bye thread, why not let bygones be bygones.