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Eyelid Surgery?

Started by Icephoenyx, September 29, 2011, 12:29:42 AM

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Icephoenyx

As some of you may know, or have noticed, I have always had droopy upper eyelids, and I'm a little self consious about them. You might be able to tell in my avatar, or take a look at the pic below. I always look tired and/or miserable (I usually am, but I would like to hide it lol!)

If you were me, would you get a brow lift or blepharoplasty? If so, which one, and why?

I have been to a few consults, some say a lift, some say to go with bleph, but either way it is very expensive. One doc even said I shouldn't bother, but wouldn't really say why. I know Brassard will do it for me for a discounted rate when I get SRS, but I was also hoping to get my boobs done and dont really want to get two more surgeries at the same time as SRS (plus I can't afford them both after SRS).

It's also a pain to deal with eye makeup. I love the idea of wearing it but even when I buy expensive, good quality stuff it always smudges, creases, or gets covered completely because of the folds of skin that droop. I want people to see it, that's the point of wearing it after all!

So what do you all think?



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SandraJane

 Right now maybe you don't need any facial procedures, do you pass without any problems? You look like you do, also your skin appears to be in excellent condition. You have that "Natural" look, I'm guessing you are 5'10 to 6'0", slim 140-160 lbs, early to mid 20's, am I close?

Why do I ask? I'm currently reading Dr. Ousterhout's book , Facial Feminization Surgery, A Guide for the Transgendered Woman, and in it he mentions about patients that could pass in their 20's and 30's but when they reached their 40's and beyond had trouble passing. Maybe right now take care of what is most important and needed, and plan and save for an FFS in 10-15 yrs.

Sure you could have a procedure or two, but if you are passing then this is something you can come back to later. Save your money.
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caitlin_adams

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Whilst I realize this doesn't address your question, my ex girlfriend had the exact same eyelids as you and she never ever wore eyeshadow.

I hope you find something that works for you.
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Catherine Sarah

Hi Icephoenyx,
In all honesty, with the road map that is ahead of you at the moment, I wouldn't do anything about the eyes. There is more to being a woman, than just eyes. To me, they look great. Perhaps, if you want to improve them, see a beautician who can work their magic for the time being at minimal cost.
At the 'end of the day', what makes a woman successful is her inner. Once the inner is set, the outer follows. And only genuine people care about the inner person. If someone is superfluous enough to reject you because of your eyes; need I say more? There is a magnificent inner you wanting to come out. See you soon. Be safe, well and happy.
Lotsa luv
Catherine




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RhinoP

Honestly, and this is just hitting you straight with the truth, but I'm looking at your avatar as a whole and while I think you look extremely beautiful and extremely passable as a girl without anything done, I feel like there's simply some minimal things just are instilling a male characteristic, mainly the thicker nature of your inner eyebrows, and some darkness around the undereyes overall. I feel like the addition of a somewhat glossy-ish makeup layer on the overall face (I would try using a bright, skin-colored shade under the eyes, making the whole area look very full) would probably help most of all; I do wish there was an all-natural solution (no make-up required!), but the truth is that I've required a layer of thick make-up for about 7 years now because of my quite extreme rosacea and other skin diseases - if it's what you have to do to appear a bit glossier and brighter, it's truly what make-up was made for.

One thing I'll point out though is from the avatar, it seems you have the tiniest of a "chin dimple" that none-the-less is noticeable to my eyes, one of the things that, for your particular face, may be setting it the wrong way. Skin filler injections at a professional dermatologist would probably work great on this, and I'm sure one injection would be like, what, $100 nowadays? I wouldn't see why you couldn't find a deal much cheaper than that for just one small area. Or a stick-based, latex-ish type make-up works really well for these dimples too, I have a much bigger dimple forming and it's driving me crazy, personally. Some faces just look too masculine even with the tiniest of a dimple, while even large chin dimples sometimes look natural on other particular faces. I think you have one of the faces that puts a bit of emphasis on these features, mainly because you have a slim-cut face with no weight, so I don't disagree that a change even tiny features may be the key to your expression.

Lastly, about the droopy eyelids: on close-up inspection with the additional picture you posted, I can see where it may be a problem with make-up and an overall bright look. I wouldn't get anything done under the eyes at all (and I would add that I believe any surgeon recommending a surgical change to the undereye area is trying to mess you up), but concerning the eyelid surgery, it may indeed be something that'd lift the baggage from your eyes. However, I really think that it may be better for you to do a couple cheap things (searching for more colors/types of make-up, getting a bit cleaner hairstyle, possible filler injections for any pesky dimples, just an overall small makeover) rather than anything surgical. In fact, I'd almost say just throw the idea of filler injections out the window, it may be that hormones themselves could be all you need. It really seems like the main thing you may suffer from is a bit of male-colored/textured skin, it may be that more duration on hormones could bring a tad more of a rosy, bright look to your face.
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blackMamba

I don't think you need blepharoplasty.  That procedure removes excess skin and/or fat from the eyelids.  From what I can tell by your pictures, you have very little.  I really think it's unnecessary, and the risks outweigh the benefits.  I went to a plastic surgeon with the same concerns, and he told me the same thing. 

As for the brow lift, I would be careful.  I've never been a fan of the "surprised" look.  Although I think your surgery dollars could be better spent, if you decide to go that route, make sure you see several results pictures to see what a typical result looks like from your surgeon.
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Icephoenyx

Quote from: SandraJane on September 29, 2011, 01:59:10 AM
Right now maybe you don't need any facial procedures, do you pass without any problems? You look like you do, also your skin appears to be in excellent condition. You have that "Natural" look, I'm guessing you are 5'10 to 6'0", slim 140-160 lbs, early to mid 20's, am I close?

Why do I ask? I'm currently reading Dr. Ousterhout's book , Facial Feminization Surgery, A Guide for the Transgendered Woman, and in it he mentions about patients that could pass in their 20's and 30's but when they reached their 40's and beyond had trouble passing. Maybe right now take care of what is most important and needed, and plan and save for an FFS in 10-15 yrs.

Sure you could have a procedure or two, but if you are passing then this is something you can come back to later. Save your money.

I feel I pass for the most part, I guess this isn't really an FFS issue but more of just a general plastic surgery issue. But you are very good! I am 6'1" 160 pounds, and 23 years old!

I'm not really looking for a more 'female' look with my eyes I just want a more opened look I guess. Also, I don't really want to wait as I'm getting SRS in Feb 2012 and I can get a lift at the same time, plus I have the money now, so I might as well kill two birds with one stone.
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Icephoenyx

Quote from: caitlin_adams on September 29, 2011, 06:07:13 AM
Whilst I realize this doesn't address your question, my ex girlfriend hadthe exact same eyelids as you and she never ever wore eyeshadow.

I hope you find something that works for you.

Is this because she felt she couldn't because of her eyelids too?
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SandraJane

Your eyes and "droopy" eyelids give you an "exotic" look, give it some thought.
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Icephoenyx

That's what my one friend always says when I mention this to her!!! I just hope it doesnt make me look mad or angry, and I wish I knew how to work makeup with my eyes in their current state. The less surgery the better, but I'm always self consious of this issue.
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SandraJane

Consider seeing a "Pro" for some advice, or with the Holiday "shopping season" coming up...go to the Mall! There will be plenty of Rep's from the cosmetic co.'s and professional makeup artists, free!

...just a thought... :laugh:
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Icephoenyx

Hi, I have been to three surgeons about this Sandra, and they all told me different things. One said I should get bleph, one said a lift, and the third said I shouldn't do anything at all! I'm so confused, that's why I wanted to see if anyone here has some input.

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Gadgett

My hubby doesn't see a problem beauty wise however you may be looking at a problem later on down the road.

He said that as you age you eyes may become more droopy to the effect it would start interfering with you actual eyes sight and you may want to get a professional opinion on that since photos can be misleading at times. GL and let us know how things turn out.
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