Have just came across a website Gender Wiki, had a quick read through and found myself agreeing to much of what i was reading, however the last few lines have got me somewhat concerned. It states an androgyne can be the biological parent of another androgyne and they even might be the same kind of androgyne (eg femandrogynes) this suggests that androgyny is genetic.

Now i have 6 children off 3 different mothers, two of which i am not in contact with, of two others, one seems to be a typical girl if something of a wild child and i have another son who it appears is something of a loner (bit like me at his age i guess). I live with my two other children, i have a 9 year old son who at this stage appears to be just a normal boy and a daughter who even at the age of 5 seems to be something of a tom boy, probably because she looks up to her brother and  likes doing the things he does, playing football, climbing trees and playing war games with lego etc. however at the same time she likes dressing up as princesses, having her nails painted and most of the things that comes with being a girl i guess.

Now i know its way too early to predict how my children might turn out in later life, but reading what i came across on this gender site has got me a bit worried, as i wouldnt wish being androgyne on my worst enemy. Most of the time its not a problem and i quite enjoy being different from most other people, but its these down time spells i have trouble handling, the feeling that you have no one to turn to, as no one would understand what planet your on even if you could raise the courage to talk about it in the first place. Dont get me wrong, my wife is one in a million and is always a rock of support in my times of need, but what the heck must she think when she hears me say, i need breasts to be the REAL ME???

Anyway, back to the thread in hand, does anyone one know of a family consisting of more than one androgyne, honest answers only please

I sometimes wonder about my sister, given some of the things she has said to me, but I don't reckon it's genetic, more likely developmental/environmental. I reckon I had a propensity to not see myself as male or female and my upbringing eked this out to a greater degree.

i reckon i'm a mix between the manly women on my mother's side and the spiritually aware women on my father's side. end result is me, a far too openminded being unable to decide on just one gender as i have traits of both

but there are no other androgynes in my family

Personally, I believe that gender identity is genetic, as is sexual orientation.  Empirical observations leads me to theorize that gender identities that differ from physical gender are rare in the population since the majority of people seem to identify internally with their physical gender, even taking into account those that aren't aware of their differing GI or refuse to admit it.  In the same way, homosexual orientation is rare compared to heterosexual orientation. 

We can already see that biological children born of homosexual parents (it does happen) have no more a statistical chance of being homosexual than children of heterosexual parents.   

So too with gender identity.  Just because a person has a gender identity that differs from their physical gender doesn't mean their children will as well.  And if gender identity were strictly a matter or environment and development, then how do we explain 5 year old children insisting they are the opposite of their physical gender? 

Don't really see a pattern genetically among trans and gay people I know. Neither my parents, my brother nor my son were or are gay or trans. Have got a gay cousin and my mum had a gay uncle but that's about it. Can only think of one LGBT person I know who has a gay sibling.

At present, as far as I know, there is no conclusive research proving a genetic basis for either condition. A good thing probably as many parents would probably choose not to have the child if a test were available. There are theories connected to maternal stress, chemical influence and of course the 'Freemartin' hypothesis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemartin

I feel that people are having a habit of leaping at genes before anything else at the moment.

Quote from: Pica Pica on October 06, 2011, 05:10:59 PM
I feel that people are having a habit of leaping at genes before anything else at the moment.

Tell me about it. Maybe I'm being paranoid but a detect a possible nasty whiff of eugenics in the whole issue. We should learn from history, Sweden only ended it's horrific compulsory sterilisation programme in 1975.

My brother is a transman.  That doesn't really mean anything, I don't think, other than making it easier for the family to think I'm really not all that unusual.

Hmm. My mother often says she should have been her father's son. My dad...never really interested in traditional "man" things, but he tries to overcompensate for that a lot. My brother has considered transitioning to female, but ultimately changed his mind.

Doubt it, all of my family seem content with their genders. I have 1 uncle that everyone thinks is gay, that's it.