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Why Gaming’s Most Famous Transgender Character Remains a Controversial Topic

Started by Shana A, October 11, 2011, 11:27:05 AM

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By Luke Plunkett
Oct 11, 2011 2:30 AM

Why Gaming's Most Famous Transgender Character Remains a Controversial Topic

http://kotaku.com/5848491/why-gamings-most-famous-transgender-character-remains-a-controversial-topic

Quick history lesson for those who don't know: there's a character in Final Fight who in Japan was a sexy lady. A sexy lady you had to punch in the face. Her name was Poison.

Fearing this may not go down well overseas, in the West she was turned into a he. It was the same sexy character model, appearing entirely female, but had suddenly been labelled by the developer as a male. Making her one of video gaming's first, and to this day most notorious, transgender characters.

Poison remains a topic of debate not because he/she is transgender, but because apparently Capcom has never officially made the character's gender a matter of canon.
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Lily

I always thought Birdo was the most famous trans character.

SMB2 remains the best Mario game.
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Lynn

Quote from: Lily on October 11, 2011, 06:36:33 PM
I always thought Birdo was the most famous trans character.

SMB2 remains the best Mario game.
This is true, and also funny considering it's not even a Mario game technically haha.

Nintendo thought the real SMB2 was too hard for Western people to play. So they did a reskin of another game called Doki Doki Panic and slapped the Mario label on it.
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Fighter

Quote from: Lily on October 11, 2011, 06:36:33 PM
I always thought Birdo was the most famous trans character.

SMB2 remains the best Mario game.
My first thought when I read the title of this, mostly because in the original manual Birdo is actually referenced as TG (or at least CD). I've actually never heard of Poison. Then again, I've never played Final Fight (sacrilege, I know!).

I didn't like 2 all that much. I'm more partial to the original and the third one personally. Oh, and Lost Levels. That's always fun :).
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VeryGnawty

Quote from: Fighter Sadie on October 11, 2011, 09:21:27 PM
My first thought when I read the title of this

Also my first thought when I read the title.  I was surprised that it was Final Fight and not Super Mario Bros 2 that was in the article.

I don't even remember Final Fight.  I don't know if I still have it any more.  It's been years since I've played it.
"The cake is a lie."
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Korlee

I honestly thought the same thing really about Birdo and expected the article to be about Birdo.  However I did play Final Fight but without reading the bloody manual like you know or care as a kid and to be honest?  Until I read this webcomic http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/862 I never knew about her at all.
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VeryGnawty

I might argue that Samus Aran would qualify as "transgendered" in a similar sense that the Final Fight character does, while Samus is both more well known and popular than Poison.

Samus was created during the old school Nintendo days, when practically all video game protagonists were male.  Samus wears a full-body combat suit with an opaque faceguard built into her helmet.  There is not an inch of Samus's body visible during normal gameplay.

In the original Metroid game, Samus would remove parts of her suit at the end of the game if you completed the game in a certain amount of time.  This allowed the faster players to realize that Samus is, in fact, a woman.  At the time this was a very surprising discovery, as Metroid was one of the first games to feature a female protagonist.

To this day, many casual gamers who are unfamiliar with the Metroid games still consider Samus to be male.  With the addition of "Zero Suit Samus" to Super Smash Brothers Brawl, this misconception will probably become less common over time.

Samus could be compared to a "crossdresser" because, at the time, all other futuristic combat-suit wearing heroes were male.
"The cake is a lie."
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Korlee

She used to be my favorite videogame character because she stood above all the typical media stereotypes of women.  She wore powered armor, showed little skin, was hardened emotionally, fused with alien dna, didn't need some loser male to hold her hand, she kicked butt!  Heck, she was fused to her powered armor!  The character broke stereotypes and was original in so many ways.

Then came the people such as Team Ninja that got ahold of her.  Thus ruining the character and the entire series all together.  They slowly made her need a man in games such as Metroid Fusion that introduced the retarded Zero Suit when she was FUSED to her armor.  Later Team Ninja in the other M just turned her into an emotional blonde that didn't just need a man but desperately needed one to go with her amazing some how new curvy suit.

She was an iconic and amazing videogame character till modern times. :(
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VeryGnawty

Quote from: Korlee on October 12, 2011, 06:33:58 AM
Then came the people such as Team Ninja that got ahold of her.  Thus ruining the character and the entire series all together.  They slowly made her need a man in games such as Metroid Fusion that introduced the retarded Zero Suit when she was FUSED to her armor.  Later Team Ninja in the other M just turned her into an emotional blonde that didn't just need man but desperately needed one to go with her amazing some how new curvy suit.

I couldn't play the new Metroid games.  I have Metroid Prime, but I found it impossible to get into.  It just feels like some random FPS adventure game with a space suit.  It just seems....boring.  When I want to play Metroid, I have to bust out my old Super Nintendo and play Metroid 3.  Now there is an awesome freaking game.  It is one of the best platformers ever made.
"The cake is a lie."
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Fighter

Quote from: Korlee on October 12, 2011, 06:33:58 AM
She used to be my favorite videogame character because she stood above all the typical media stereotypes of women.  She wore powered armor, showed little skin, was hardened emotionally, fused with alien dna, didn't need some loser male to hold her hand, she kicked butt!  Heck, she was fused to her powered armor!  The character broke stereotypes and was original in so many ways.

Then came the people such as Team Ninja that got ahold of her.  Thus ruining the character and the entire series all together.  They slowly made her need a man in games such as Metroid Fusion that introduced the retarded Zero Suit when she was FUSED to her armor.  Later Team Ninja in the other M just turned her into an emotional blonde that didn't just need man but desperately needed one to go with her amazing some how new curvy suit.

She was an iconic and amazing videogame character till modern times. :(
Soooooo agreed on that. While Metroid Fusion wasn't that bad, Other M kind of ruined Samus for me. Metroid was fun for me because I played as a kickass woman and had to think of most of the backstory based on speculation, not to mention it was just plain fun to play. It was so much more fun when you were the one that had to make up some of the story instead of having someone narrate it for you, not to mention that there was actually a lot to learn if you wanted to, which is why Metroid Prime is still one of my favorite games today. As for solid gameplay, my favorites are Metroid: Zero Mission (remake of the first) and Super Metroid.

Other M turned Samus into a whiney hot blonde, who for some reason needed to wear HIGH HEELS on a SPACE SUIT >:(. It honestly doesn't help that one of my friends has been jacking off to her ever since he saw her in her Zero suit. It really doesn't.

Also fun fact: Metroid Prime was actually developed by Americans, even though it first came out in Japan. This may be the reason why it's such a solid FPS for the most part. Honestly, how many good Japanese FPS games can you think of?
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Lynn

Quote from: Korlee on October 12, 2011, 05:39:10 AM
I honestly thought the same thing really about Birdo and expected the article to be about Birdo.  However I did play Final Fight but without reading the bloody manual like you know or care as a kid and to be honest?  Until I read this webcomic http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/862 I never knew about her at all.
That comic is awesome.

On the note of Samus. I definitely agree that the older games are the best. But then again, isn't that the case for every video game series? As they gain new technology to make new games, they just give us more and more info and leave very little to the imagination. The thing is that the best part about playing video games is that you get to not only make your own story, but totally immerse yourself in it as well.

If I wanted something fully narrated, I'd go read a book or watch a movie.
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Korlee

Quote from: VeryGnawty on October 12, 2011, 06:42:27 AM
I couldn't play the new Metroid games.  I have Metroid Prime, but I found it impossible to get into.  It just feels like some random FPS adventure game with a space suit.  It just seems....boring.  When I want to play Metroid, I have to bust out my old Super Nintendo and play Metroid 3.  Now there is an awesome freaking game.  It is one of the best platformers ever made.

I liked it and saw the potential for the game.  They did a decent job with the next two but it really could have been better if they made the world more open like the originals were.  You could skip sections, fight bosses before you were ready, find creative ways to explore, etc.  I figured in the next two in the Prime series would expand on that but they did not sadly. :(

However I do agree... Super Metroid was an amazing game and I still enjoy playing it on my SNES to the day!  Heck, Metroid II was fun to me as well as it had a huge world to explore.. but then I was easily amused then as well with the gameboy... hehe


I'm glad you agree Sadie.  It is so hard to find peeps who agree as they are all men who just think I am taking the feminist root.  Blarg!  They just want something to masturbate to and care little for the amazing character that took years to create. :(

Lilium I am glad you like the comic and it is one of my favorite webcomics to read. :D  Anyways that is true for many games... but I think it is because they focus more on the graphics these days then the story or gameplay.  They want the world to look perfect when you are playing a fantasy, scifi, etc type game.  There was nothing realistic to start with!  Plus the new patching system with retarded deadlines.. we get incomplete games. :(
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Flan

the bruhaha over Poison is really the result of Capcom USA censoring Final fight when localized to comply with Nintendo's censorship guidelines

http://hg101.kontek.net/finalfight/finalfight2.htm (scroll down)

in turn they f'ed up everything based off the decision made a long time ago (see last comic con PR fail with cosplay Poison)
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