Hi Jamie Jennifer,

Did you stick with Dr Curtis and did he ever prescribe you the AA's as the estrogen has worked wonders on you. You are very attractive.

Work permitting, I may be visiting him in the next few weeks?

Thanks.

Hi Jaime Jennifer

I am exactly where you were when you started this thred.  I have been on patches prescribed by Dr Curtis for 3 weeks now and I am due to go back in December for a review.  I also asked about an AA such as Spironalactone as almost everyone seems to be on the stuff here.  Dr C also said AA may not be needed but he would review this after 3 months.  He said if the Estragen alone can do the job I save myself the physical cost of taking an AA as they can often make people feel unwell and can upset your system.  I have to say the patches do leave marks but I am ever hopeful they will have some effect for me.  The skin on my face has improved and I have increased breast tissue.  However the hair on my body if not as yet affected.  I am still getting a 5'0clock shadow although I am now well into getting laser to treat this.  Sigh......  What sort of results did you get after 4 months on the patches?

Thanks
Jenna xx

Jenna, what is the name of the brand he has prescribed you? I cannot recall the name of the one he prescribed me but when I ran out of them, my GP checked and they had stopped making that specific patch and he put me on a similar one, which just fell off after taking a bath or going the gym, that's why I asked to be changed to Sandrina gel.  Next time you go back in December if I were you I would ask if he would switch you to that as he does prescribe.

From 4 months I was gaining breast tissue but that is all really, I think my face might have rounded out a bit but I wasn't living full time and was only dressing at weekends, gluing in hair extensions and putting make up on and going to night clubs, but I passed pretty well then anyway.

Quote from: Jaime Jennifer on March 04, 2011, 11:00:59 AM
I have just been prescribed estrogen patches by my private doctor in london! Yay!

I thought that I would be prescribed an anti androgen too but my doctor said I don't need them I only need the patches.. Is this right? I was quite concerned about this as I thought I'd need an anti androgen to lower testosterone as well as estrogen.. Is this right??

great you started e but how do i say this ? your doctor is a idiot! lol look all good to be on e but as long as you have T the battle will cause less e to take effect and the T will undo wat the e does. unless you do a high dose of e which causes well breast cancer quite easily! um has you doctor done this before because my doctors the best in his field in my country. now you need blockers to get rid of T because the safe doses of e can't do that quick. just saying maybe get him to discuss with another doctor any who YaY for your e patchs !



and ps 4 months hrt will a full A cup but i had the breast tissue prior because of blockers

Lil Devil, suggest you do some research before dissing my doctor, even by reading up the post.  My t levels were in their 100's before taking E and are now at a single figure of 6.  That is proof that the E cancels out the T.  My doctor is also one of the best of his field in the UK.

Quote from: Jaime Jennifer on October 23, 2011, 10:59:34 AM
Lil Devil, suggest you do some research before dissing my doctor, even by reading up the post.  My t levels were in their 100's before taking E and are now at a single figure of 6.  That is proof that the E cancels out the T.  My doctor is also one of the best of his field in the UK.

well all good just thought you would enjoy the same things as me soz i think i missed your less than 100 post:) your a lucky case comes with the only European genetics must be gr8 having started with low T   you should hugs your doctor and doesn't the UK got injections ? may i ask y you chose not to use that method ? it does offer the best and cheapest results any who sorry again    meant no offence

Quote from: Jaime Jennifer on March 04, 2011, 11:00:59 AM
I have just been prescribed estrogen patches by my private doctor in london! Yay!

I thought that I would be prescribed an anti androgen too but my doctor said I don't need them I only need the patches.. Is this right? I was quite concerned about this as I thought I'd need an anti androgen to lower testosterone as well as estrogen.. Is this right??

According to my doctor, who has been working with trans people for over 30 years, estrogen will have a T reducing effect.  How much depends on the individual.  He typically prescribes both E and an anti-androgen, does a blood test a few months later and makes adjustments, and three months later, again.  He does this for the first year.  After that it's a blood test every six months, as long as you're on HRT.

That tells me the body changes all the time.  As long as there is regular testing and adjustments are made along the way, I don't see any problem with what your doctor initially prescribed.

Jaime
I am on Estradot 100mic patches and I change them every 3 days.  I have both gone to the gym and obviously showered.  I have had a bath on change days.  So far they pretty much stay intact but do leave an annoying ring of glue.

I was thinking of self medding Spiro today.  I looked online to get idea of prices.  However I now am having second thoughts.  Would a low dose be ok?  Failing that I continue to drown myself in Spearmint tea and Soya milk 

Quote from: JennaRising on October 23, 2011, 12:01:50 PM
Jaime
I am on Estradot 100mic patches and I change them every 3 days.  I have both gone to the gym and obviously showered.  I have had a bath on change days.  So far they pretty much stay intact but do leave an annoying ring of glue.

I was thinking of self medding Spiro today.  I looked online to get idea of prices.  However I now am having second thoughts.  Would a low dose be ok?  Failing that I continue to drown myself in Spearmint tea and Soya milk 

be careful if you must because Spiro does pose risk to the liver or kidneys i never remember which i think don't try but if you must don't pass a quarter of the maximum but please don't self medicate because that can be very dangerous but spiro never hurts if e isn't enough now i ain't saying doing it just trying to make sure if your gonna anyways that you don't end up in need of a transplant

Quote from: LilDevilOfPrada on October 23, 2011, 12:10:54 PM

be careful if you must because Spiro does pose risk to the liver or kidneys i never remember which i think don't try but if you must don't pass a quarter of the maximum but please don't self medicate because that can be very dangerous but spiro never hurts if e isn't enough now i ain't saying doing it just trying to make sure if your gonna anyways that you don't end up in need of a transplant

Thanks for the reply.  I am not sure if I will order Spiro online.  I may wait a while longer to see what the E does on it's own.  It just seems as if everyone is "popping" Spiro on here as if it's  miraculous.  There must be something in it?

Jaime Jennifer - in answer to your question.  If it works then stick with it i guess.  It seems to be working well for you and it's easy maintenance too.  Sounds like you have struck lucky without having to take too many pills

Quote from: JennaRising on October 23, 2011, 12:21:10 PM
Thanks for the reply.  I am not sure if I will order Spiro online.  I may wait a while longer to see what the E does on it's own.  It just seems as if everyone is "popping" Spiro on here as if it's  miraculous.  There must be something in it?

Jaime Jennifer - in answer to your question.  If it works then stick with it i guess.  It seems to be working well for you and it's easy maintenance too.  Sounds like you have struck lucky without having to take too many pills

its just spiRo is the cheapest and safest blocker that's y but doesn't do it all that's y i am also on finpecia because spiRo doesn't effect T which makes your hair longer and thicker but yea cheap and safe main reasons

Quote from: Jaime Jennifer on October 23, 2011, 08:37:45 AM
Hi girls..

So weird I was just coming on here to make a post about HRT and here is my old thread back to life!

I was on the patches alone for about 4 months and then I asked Dr Curtis to switch me to gels as they left big horrible marks on my stomach and kept falling off they were so annoying.  I have had really good results, my E levels are within normal female range and my T level is at 6, which I'm told should be now at 0.

Whilst being treated by Dr C, I had my appointment at Charing Cross.  On my second appointment the doctor said he wanted to put me on their hormones, i.e. an AA and estrogen tablets and an injection of some sort.  Dr C thinks I should just stick with the gel I'm on sice ive had such good results (i.e. B cub bra size) and considers me to pass 100%.

I don't know what I should do....

You have had such good results
I hope i do with the patches that Dr C gave me, if you t levels is only 6 then you don't need an AA which is a good thing, less drugs in the body

Do the patches really fall of all the time, if they do then i might go for the gel as well.
I'm starting my first patch tomorrow omg i'm sooooo excited hehe.
I think i might do a blood test 1 month from now and see how my t levels are.

x x

Salisha - the very best of luck, I am just 3 weeks ahead of you.  It feels great when you start.  I put my first patch on infront of Dr C in his office.  I could not wait

Jenna - thank you, it looks like we will be experiencing the effects of hormones at around the same time hehe

How are the patches for you, do they stay on like in the shower etc ?

x x

Quote from: salisha on October 23, 2011, 01:46:25 PM
Jenna - thank you, it looks like we will be experiencing the effects of hormones at around the same time hehe

How are the patches for you, do they stay on like in the shower etc ?

x x

hey you i am 4 months ahead but on oral i would also love up know how patchs hold up

Quote from: JennaRising on October 23, 2011, 12:01:50 PM
Jaime
I am on Estradot 100mic patches and I change them every 3 days.  I have both gone to the gym and obviously showered.  I have had a bath on change days.  So far they pretty much stay intact but do leave an annoying ring of glue.

Does this answer your question?  Believe me, you will check your patch is in place at least a dozen times each day at first.

Quote from: JennaRising on October 23, 2011, 01:56:43 PM
Does this answer your question?  Believe me, you will check your patch is in place at least a dozen times each day at first.

ohhh lols sorry i didn't see that, silly me and yay good, i can imagine me checking it while im just walking to the kitchen and stuff hehe
Thank you x

Quote from: LilDevilOfPrada on October 23, 2011, 01:50:02 PM
hey you i am 4 months ahead but on oral i would also love up know how patchs hold up

heyyyy, i guess they hold up pretty well hehe

x x

Estradot is what Dr C initially prescribed me.  They were fine in terms of sticking, they always stayed on after showering and gym etc, but when I ran out of the supply he gave me and went to my GP for more, I went to 7 different chemists looking for it but nobody had them in stock, there has been "manufacturing problems" and are now unavailable - not sure if that is the case but my GP had to prescribe a different brand which were larger and they fell off easily, to the point where I was lucky if I got 2 days out of them and I could hear them crunch when I walked! Not nice!

So if you have trouble getting the patches from your GP, I would reccomend getting Dr C to prescribe the Sandrina gel.

Saying all that, I think I might get my GP to give me what CX have prescribed from next week and get these AA injections and tablets just to lower my T level.. I've been so confused lately trying to figure out what's best!

Quote from: Jaime Jennifer on October 23, 2011, 02:42:53 PM
Estradot is what Dr C initially prescribed me.  They were fine in terms of sticking, they always stayed on after showering and gym etc, but when I ran out of the supply he gave me and went to my GP for more, I went to 7 different chemists looking for it but nobody had them in stock, there has been "manufacturing problems" and are now unavailable - not sure if that is the case but my GP had to prescribe a different brand which were larger and they fell off easily, to the point where I was lucky if I got 2 days out of them and I could hear them crunch when I walked! Not nice!

So if you have trouble getting the patches from your GP, I would reccomend getting Dr C to prescribe the Sandrina gel.

Saying all that, I think I might get my GP to give me what CX have prescribed from next week and get these AA injections and tablets just to lower my T level.. I've been so confused lately trying to figure out what's best!

as far as i know there's only the implant injection which can be free in some places and well super expensive in others. they inject it to the stomach region and ppl say its very painful to no pain but if you can get them do it its worth zero T all til time for me it would be £500 pounds every three months for it pills work just fine by the way

Quote from: Jaime Jennifer on October 23, 2011, 02:42:53 PM
Estradot is what Dr C initially prescribed me.  They were fine in terms of sticking, they always stayed on after showering and gym etc, but when I ran out of the supply he gave me and went to my GP for more, I went to 7 different chemists looking for it but nobody had them in stock, there has been "manufacturing problems" and are now unavailable - not sure if that is the case but my GP had to prescribe a different brand which were larger and they fell off easily, to the point where I was lucky if I got 2 days out of them and I could hear them crunch when I walked! Not nice!

So if you have trouble getting the patches from your GP, I would reccomend getting Dr C to prescribe the Sandrina gel.

Saying all that, I think I might get my GP to give me what CX have prescribed from next week and get these AA injections and tablets just to lower my T level.. I've been so confused lately trying to figure out what's best!

Ohhh he prescribed me estradot as well, but i got a 3 month supply just to be on the safe hehe

Personally if you t levels is only 6 then i don't think you should get the AA it will put more pressure on the body as you will be taking 2 drugs, also females natural T levels are usually something like 16 to 35, so you t levels are perfectly fine

But that's just my opinion you do what you feel is right

x x