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Started by BrokenCode, October 22, 2011, 11:15:07 PM

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BrokenCode

Hello everyone. I'm new to this, but not really. I always logged on as guest. So anyways I was just curious. I'm still going through transition, but every so often the Dysphoria still hits me pretty hard. So I'm just wondering if the feeling will ever go away. Or will I still feel it, but not as much. I am swapping roles constantly because I'm part time, so I'm thinking that's why I feel it more so.

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toxicblue

The best way I deal with dysphoria is to not always think about transitioning. After all, we're more than just male to female transsexuals, we've got hobbies and interests, friends and stuff. Just concern yourself with other things and don't waste thoughts about worrying on how you will transition, and just save those thoughts for when you're actually doing something transition related.
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MarinaM

Yeah it goes away. That's the purpose of transition. You do it to stop the noise.
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Cindy

As Emma said. It has its ups and downs but my GID is pretty well under control. Which doesn't mean I don't have the occasional melt down, but I can walk around in public and not cry because I'm the wrong sex. And the more I'm out as me the better life is.

Cindy
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jainie marlena

Quote from: Cindy James on October 23, 2011, 01:36:35 AM
As Emma said. It has its ups and downs but my GID is pretty well under control. Which doesn't mean I don't have the occasional melt down, but I can walk around in public and not cry because I'm the wrong sex. And the more I'm out as me the better life is.

Cindy
this is how I felt. it seems more under control just being me. the more space I claim for myself the less I feel disphoric. I know when I walk into a place where being me seems hard at times but being me is far better than being under control of your own imagination of what if.

Dana_H

Quote from: BrokenCode on October 22, 2011, 11:15:07 PM
Hello everyone. I'm new to this, but not really. I always logged on as guest. So anyways I was just curious. I'm still going through transition, but every so often the Dysphoria still hits me pretty hard. So I'm just wondering if the feeling will ever go away. Or will I still feel it, but not as much. I am swapping roles constantly because I'm part time, so I'm thinking that's why I feel it more so.

I can definitely relate. I am currently only "out" at home and to a few close friends, due to occupational necessity, so I'm swapping presentation on a nearly daily basis. (Which makes voice practice a real bear at times). I struggle with bouts of dysphoria quite often.

Sometimes, it helps to immerse myself in a hobby that crosses my own gender lines so that I can let gender just fade into the background for a while. For example, I've always enjoyed making model train dioramas. It's a hobby normally associated with boys and men, but for which there is also a small and growing contingent of female hobbyists, and is something I do not plan to give up after transition. Knowing that gender doesn't make a real-word difference there, I can divorce my thoughts from my identity for a while and just...be. For guys, it is often about the trains themselves, whereas many women are more drawn to the scenes and landscapes, (as always, there are exceptions) but there is much common ground where the two meet. That common ground is where I focus when feeling dysphoric.


It doesn't always work, but sometimes it does. It has to be something you can get truly engrossed in, though. I like to read fantasy/sci-fi books, but my taste in stories tends more toward the stereotypical feminine preferences (more focus on relationships and romance, less so on swordplay and action) whereas my body is still largely masculinized, so it tends to reinforce the dysphoria sometimes be keeping me from entirely sinking into the story. Nothing says men can't enjoy such stories as well or that women can't enjoy a good hack-n-slash novel, but it still feels like a "gender-reinforcing" activity to me when I'm feeling dysphoric, hence the discomfort.

Some days, just being able to talk to someone to whom I am already "out" is a great help.

Some days, nothing helps. Those days suck bad. They make me want to just hide under the covers all day, but that doesn't help either. It actually promotes depression in my case. *sigh* Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the straps.

From all I've heard, transition will help minimize the dysphoria, so don't let that worry you. Just try to make it through one day at a time and remind yourself that there is always hope for happy changes ahead.
Call me Dana. Call me Cait. Call me Kat. Just don't call me late for dinner.
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Keaira

My mind is no longer telling me there is something wrong. after all these years, it's quiet. And I love to wake up now.
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stldrmgrl

#7
I am 3 months into HRT and only partially transitioning at this time, however a good 75% of my dysphoria has since faded.  Though much of what I've written below will seem I am talking about myself (and I am), I do mean it to be applied possibly towards your situation.

My current job is very masculine in nature and at first I forced myself to switch roles every time I'd go to work, though this was pre-HRT.  Once I began HRT, I'd say probably a month or two months into it, I decided to stop the masculine role at work, which also included the voice, and just be myself; if they were to fire me simply for such, so be it.  Again, now 3 months into it, they don't care.  Sure I've gotten some weird looks, but nothing ever beyond that.  I never could transition clothing as we wear a unisex uniform (As a disclaimer, I only gave up the masculine role at work, nothing was physically transitioned.  If you are going to physically transition at work, don't just do it without any notification to HR before hand).  Point being, it took away a part of that dysphoria.  I no longer feel depression and anxiety when going to work, though I am currently seeking a new transgender friendly job, as my job duties are still far too masculine for my liking.  Moving on!

At home and socially, I have again partially transitioned.  I do not regulate my voice at all, anywhere.  Simply by allowing my voice to go where it goes and working as much as possible on feminizing it, the dysphoria has again faded substantially.  Clothing wise I am partially transitioned, as I mostly wear women's casual attire only (and women's underwear of course, along with the casual clothing being pants, t-shirts, shoes & socks/flip-flops).  But even being partially transitioned has silenced the dysphoria even further.  However, there are days I look at myself in the mirror and feel disgusting, and instantly revert to telling myself, "Just put on something guy like and fit the disgusting part you look today," and I used to give in.  But do not do that!  If you want the dysphoria to go, you cannot revert to the very thing causing the dysphoria.

Here's something I did and it seemed to have helped quite a bit.  If you're not ready to make the huge leap of ridding of all guy clothing and wearing only women's clothing, go through your current guy clothing and separate it into two piles.  One pile is your "transition" clothing, in that when you wear it, despite it being guy clothes, it makes you feel good, somewhat feminine and seems to calm the dysphoria.  The second pile is the clothing you know for a fact makes you feel masculine and has that dysphoria screaming in your mind all day long.  Now, get rid of pile #2.  I needed money at the time so I sold as much of that clothing as I could and donated the rest.  Even though I was still wearing guy clothing, just the relief of knowing there is no "fall back" clothing to turn to, was a huge calming of the dysphoria.  From that point, throughout time, I began replacing the remaining clothing with women's clothing that resembled the guys, however, different enough to noticeably be women's so I wasn't just spinning my wheels.  As my transition progresses, I continue swapping clothing to more feminine in nature, until I am finally ready/look the part to wear the clothing I really want to.  That, to me, is transitioning.  Yes, you're going to spend a lot of money, however, I will spend whatever it takes knowing it will release me from a life sentence in the mental prison I once was in (not to be taken literally).

The biggest thing I can tell you that will calm the dysphoria is be yourself.  If you are trying to act masculine, stop trying and act the way you naturally act.  If you force yourself to talk with a masculine toned voice, stop forcing that voice and just let yourself speak.  If you alter your attitude, opinions, personality, etc. - don't.  Speak your mind, let your attitude be what it is and show your true personality.  Nothing keeps the dysphoria around more than shunning the inner girl in you.  Be yourself and don't make transitioning the entire focal point of your life, however, work at ending the role swapping.  Go about your day, shrugging off the negative and live for the positive.  You'll do fine, but you have to actively pursue the change.  Most of all, don't worry!  Worrying serves no purpose and only escalates the anxiety, depression and dysphoria.  Hang in there  ;)
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BrokenCode

Thanks everyone. That helped a lot. I'm glad for the response.
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Mahsa Tezani

I act more masculine and aggressive primarily because I can. I was pretty damn feminine before as a guy... Now I can do whatever I want!

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Just Kate

Quote from: EmmaM on October 22, 2011, 11:32:14 PM
Yeah it goes away. That's the purpose of transition. You do it to stop the noise.

Quote from: Cindy James on October 23, 2011, 01:36:35 AM
As Emma said. It has its ups and downs but my GID is pretty well under control. Which doesn't mean I don't have the occasional melt down, but I can walk around in public and not cry because I'm the wrong sex. And the more I'm out as me the better life is.

Cindy

Usually it doesn't go away.  It gets manageable though.
Ill no longer be defined by my condition. From now on, I'm just, Kate.

http://autumnrain80.blogspot.com
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MarinaM

Quote from: brIAnna (interalia) on October 23, 2011, 09:23:57 PM
Usually it doesn't go away.  It gets manageable though.

I realized my error an hour or so after I posted this, but I left it, since I have heard from some post ops that theirs is gone totally.

Guess it depends...
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Just Kate

Quote from: EmmaM on October 23, 2011, 11:54:52 PM
I realized my error an hour or so after I posted this, but I left it, since I have heard from some post ops that theirs is gone totally.

Guess it depends...

I've heard many post ops/post transition people say it is gone on the internet, I have yet to meet one in real life for whom it isn't an issue anymore.

Sadly I've met those for whom it never diminished much at all even after transition.  Those are the saddest cases.  For some there really is a mental component to it that needs to be worked through with therapy for the physical to make any difference.  The one's who are post op get hung up on, "but I missed x in my childhood," "I can never be pregnant," "I'll never pass," etc. and it provokes the same dysphoria they tried to escape by transitioning to begin with.  In the support meetings though in front of a group they always talked about how happy they were to those who were starting or considering transition.  I'd never met more unhappy people.

On a more positive note, my best friend during transition has been post op 7 years and she is happy as a lark (despite periodic downtimes due to minor dysphoria). ;)  She was a rare exception though.
Ill no longer be defined by my condition. From now on, I'm just, Kate.

http://autumnrain80.blogspot.com
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AbraCadabra

* ..."but I missed x in my childhood," "I can never be pregnant," "I'll never pass," etc. *

Yes! Those were some of the most painful issues, and I have to say they actually found a new perspective post-op. It now feels a lot more: Like so WHAT?!! And what is, IS. We CAN'T change the past. Move on and get a life. Life move foreward not back, um.

Pining after all these things post-op, in my take means you may need more therapy.
Oh my, am I so glad not to see my 'therapist' antagonistic, gate-keeper, anymore!

This knowing alone can 'heal' one real fast.

So, again in my only 1 month, short term, post-op experience, those things just vanished with on fell swoop.

My 2 cents,
Axelle

Note: I can relate to my earlier life in terms of being female these days, plus all my then activities - which may help. Things like windsurfing, Air Force, technical training, etc. etc.
If you have to keep your past in denial it my cause more GID due to more ongoing repression? My past is my past as the same female (in boy guise – ok) that I AM - always was.
That I can't be pregnant, could not be...? Well, I have a son and that helps with this issue :-) and at my age??? Hello, what else you would want to cry about?


Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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BrokenCode

Quote from: brIAnna (interalia) on October 24, 2011, 12:15:52 AM
I've heard many post ops/post transition people say it is gone on the internet, I have yet to meet one in real life for whom it isn't an issue anymore.

Sadly I've met those for whom it never diminished much at all even after transition.  Those are the saddest cases.  For some there really is a mental component to it that needs to be worked through with therapy for the physical to make any difference.  The one's who are post op get hung up on, "but I missed x in my childhood," "I can never be pregnant," "I'll never pass," etc. and it provokes the same dysphoria they tried to escape by transitioning to begin with.  In the support meetings though in front of a group they always talked about how happy they were to those who were starting or considering transition.  I'd never met more unhappy people.

On a more positive note, my best friend during transition has been post op 7 years and she is happy as a lark (despite periodic downtimes due to minor dysphoria). ;)  She was a rare exception though.

Yeah that's kind of what I am afraid about. Like going through all that and still not being satisfied. I am trying to get into the mindset of reality. I'm still pretty early in my transition. I did notice the first several months, that feeling passed because it felt like I was doing something about it. Then after that I just got the bad thought about will I ever be satisfied in the end. Which kind of worries me, but I'm still part time and I'm still in such an beginning phase.
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foot_lover_jess

Quote from: Keaira on October 23, 2011, 05:07:34 AM
My mind is no longer telling me there is something wrong. after all these years, it's quiet. And I love to wake up now.
Oh, yes, yes, yes! I can now be in male mode, but know myself and have little to no dysphoria anymore. Of course I prefer NOT to be totally male, but since I know who I am now, and and happy inside... Then, I'm happy with any presentation. Of course I'm not one of the ones that were REALLY dysphic either, just wrong.

But since you do still feel dysphoric, how Long have you been transitioning? I'm guessing you're on HRT... How long? Maybe you just need more time to let things do their work and become more at ease with yourself?
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BrokenCode

Quote from: _Jess_ on October 24, 2011, 08:48:10 PM
Oh, yes, yes, yes! I can now be in male mode, but know myself and have little to no dysphoria anymore. Of course I prefer NOT to be totally male, but since I know who I am now, and and happy inside... Then, I'm happy with any presentation. Of course I'm not one of the ones that were REALLY dysphic either, just wrong.

But since you do still feel dysphoric, how Long have you been transitioning? I'm guessing you're on HRT... How long? Maybe you just need more time to let things do their work and become more at ease with yourself?

Yeah I've been self-med for like 18 months. I started slow with low dosage and worked up. Now I'm actually with a Doctor, so that's a positive for me not doing the crazy method. I think the next step for me is electrolysis because I'm just really tired of having to shave my face all the time. I think its like you said I need to become more at ease with myself. Thanks for the tip!! :)
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foot_lover_jess

Quote from: BrokenCode on October 24, 2011, 09:04:08 PM
Yeah I've been self-med for like 18 months. I started slow with low dosage and worked up. Now I'm actually with a Doctor, so that's a positive for me not doing the crazy method. I think the next step for me is electrolysis because I'm just really tired of having to shave my face all the time. I think its like you said I need to become more at ease with myself. Thanks for the tip!! :)
HA! Did I write that!? :D Sounds like my path.

It's true though... Probably two months ago now, I really completely accepted myself for who I am. I am Jessica. I am not male. I am not female. I am masculine and feminine. I am comfortable in my skin for the first time in my life. I now WANT to look good and present myself better. If I had to choose a binary, I would choose to be seen as female. I do not have to chose. I can present as male. I can present as metro. I can present as effeminate. I can present as female. I'm most comfortable as female, but it is not a requirement for happiness. The requirement is that internally I know that I am a mix of both.
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Jillieann Rose

Dysphoria?
Yes at times.
What helps?
Being myself. Isn't that what it is all about?
Oh but who am I?
Like Jess, that came first before I could be comfortable with myself.
For me? Oh, I am a women born with an deformed body.
I took me awhile to figure it out.
So now what do I do keep pretending I am male? No that leads to dysphoria and depression.
I become more and more female in body and in presentation (actions).
But I am only part time out and that can be depressing.
What helps is to always act female (that is I have freed myself to be me no mater what I wear).

All that to say yes it gets better and may go away if you stop fearing what other think and just be yourself.

Yes for some people the is the if only. For me I understand that I can't change it and I don't want it to stop me from enjoying my future.
Each day is new so make the most of the day before you. That kind of thinking will stop dysphoria in it's tracks.
If the pass (what if or the if only) still haunts you then you need counseling.

Jillieann
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Sailor_Saturn

Axelle, it's comments like the one that you just left that make me look up to you. You're awesome strong, and I hope that I can get past those issues myself one day. I've basically accepted that I can't have babies (a lot of cis-women can't either, so it's OK), but missing out on a lot of childhood experiences is a tough loss. I'll get through it, but there'll be more tears and anger before I do.
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