over time, cosmetics can do more harm to the skin than good.  personally, I've done many chemical peels to remove damaged skin from the sun, use skin bleaching cream as well as Rx strength retin a from my anesthetist.  This regimen, along with moisturizer (which is essential for good skin) has done wonders for my complexion.  I no longer need to apply foundation.  I've had permanent eyeliner as well.  So for me, the only "real" cosmetics I wear are eyeshadow (only sometimes) and lip color........I love big pouty lips!

wb Jamie

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 24, 2011, 03:21:09 PM
Truth is, all women need some form of makeup to look good. Unless you are swimming or hiking, there is NO REASON not to wear it.

Enlighten me.

I disagree.  I find my SO and a lot of other women quite attractive without any, though both of us wear some once in a while.  There's a great reason not to, though.  If they don't like it or the way it looks, they don't have to.

Quote from: cynthialee on October 24, 2011, 10:38:08 PM
Why would you want to know that?

DUH!!! you'll never ever get a man if you don't paint your face!!!

omg this whole "if you wear makeup, you're stupid" and "if you don't wear makeup, you're stupid" is actually getting this thread nowhere.

How about if the makeup wearers respects those who do not wear makeup and the non makeup wearers respects those who do wear makeup?

I'm just not as obsessed with make up as I use to be and it kinda depends on what's going on... Sure, I like to get prettied up from time to time when the occasion calls for it, but for everyday it's not really a necessity

thanks annah. 
i think, and it's only my opinion, that wearing makeup is at the sole discretion of the wearer.  sometimes, it's gives us a feeling of feeling of feminine, other times is nothing but a pain in the ass, especially with cleansing and getting that ->-bleeped-<- out of our pores.  but, the decision to wear or not to wear makeup should only be for ourselves.....if we like what we see in the mirror it raises our confidence.  some only feel confident with makeup, others feel confident with minimal makeup and others feel confident without makeup

Quote from: Andy8715 on October 24, 2011, 11:13:32 PM
DUH!!! you'll never ever get a man if you don't paint your face!!!

Well maybe she's trying to attract a different kind of guy.

Quote from: cynthialee on October 24, 2011, 10:38:08 PM


Also I am married to Sevan.

Who is Sevan? Does he kick it here?

Well tell Sevan I said "Hello"

My answer to first post. I don't no how to put it on right still need help with it. Don't know many tomboys that do. Just maybe a little in the future I will have it down. New at it.

I love love love makeup! BUT, it seems everytime I go out without it everyman on the planet notices me and is the sweetest man on earth.. Seriously I get smiles and waves, and men open doors for me. I have to check to make sure my boobs aren't hanging out

Quote from: Tyler on October 25, 2011, 12:23:23 AM
I love love love makeup! BUT, it seems everytime I go out without it everyman on the planet notices me and is the sweetest man on earth.. Seriously I get smiles and waves, and men open doors for me.

Yeah, I notice I get more positive attention without it 

Quote from: V M on October 25, 2011, 12:43:23 AM
Yeah, I notice I get more positive attention without it 

Is that you in the avatar pic?

Quote from: Eve of Chaos on October 24, 2011, 03:29:03 PM

I think anyone who doesn't want to wear make-up is probably just being themselves and not worrying/caring about passing. which Is admirable and I envy it. you gotta live life for yourself. and if they prefer it there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

^ BAM! 
also , i read the first last couple of posts and i hate how we've turned to putting on make up so we can be looking good for men and not for ourselves. nothing is for ourselves, it's all for other people so we pass for them. i think trans women need to remove that poisonous stress and embrace the beauty of being ourselves. if you like to wear make up, don't do it because you think it makes you look more like a women. You are a woman, do it because it makes you feel pretty. if you feel pretty without make up, then you don't need it.

There are many reasons I don't wear much make-up, if any.
1. My arsenal of make-up is eyeliner, mascara and eye shadow. This is about the only area that wont make my face look like it's melting off in my day to day job. I work around molten plastic.

2. I can't afford to get anything else right now because I am saving for a vehicle. It's going to be a little tough if I have to cycle to work in the snow.

3. Yep, lack of practice.  Because of the first two issues, I haven't used much make-up.

4. It is a pain in the butt finding the right make-up that you like and look good in. And I just don't have the time. I wish I did. I was even given a copy of 'Making Faces' as a gift. But I have too much going on at once.

I used to be pretty hardcore about doing the whole deal every day before I left the house, but after a while I realized how much time I was spending on it and it seemed unnecessary.

Currently for "everyday", I just stick to:
-Under-eye concealer for dark circles if they're there (this really goes a long way in making you look younger and not tired and all around healthier)
-Lip gloss

And if it's something special, or I know I'll be seeing someone I want to impress, I add eye shadow (usually something sparkly), perfume, and flat-iron the most unruly parts of my hair

Past that I'd just prefer to be natural, but I can understand others' viewpoints. Ultimately I think it's up to the person to decide for themselves how far they want to take it, and how often.

Quote from: Torn1990 on October 25, 2011, 12:59:08 AM
...i read the first last couple of posts and i hate how we've turned to putting on make up so we can be looking good for men and not for ourselves...

I suspect a lot of women (trans or otherwise) wear the makeup they wear not so much to attract men, but because of peer pressure - women are often pretty anxious about how other women perceive them.

One reason that doesn't bother me is that the kind of women I associate most with (and am attracted to) are coincidentally also not that fussed about makeup .

I love makeup, my problem is that I am still learning and haven't found a foundation that I like yet.  I am very fair with pink undertones and have sensitive skin that can redden very easily.  I also have very dry skin. I do not care for a heavy caked look but a sheer dewy look but still good coverage that is very blendable. I recently just tried Bare Minerals, yuck did not care for it, maybe it works better on girls with oilier skin. It made me look powdery and more dry

Problem is it just gets expensive to try things, so I end up not doing anything.  Thinking of trying Make Up Forever HD foundation but its pretty pricey, read nothing but good things about it though.

My cis-wife never wears make-up on a normal day. She only wears a little foundation, mascara and eye-liner on the rare occasion that we go out. I wouldn't say all cis-women wear it. I know women who don't wear it and ones that do during their normal day and, to be honest, the women that don't look nicer.

Quote from: Rukia87xo on October 24, 2011, 03:37:02 PM
   It's simple really, most ts women don't know how to apply makeup, sad but true.

Most women I see who wear make-up also don't know how to use it. The worst offenders look like clowns.

Quote from: Padma on October 25, 2011, 03:02:02 AM
One reason that doesn't bother me is that the kind of women I associate most with (and am attracted to) are coincidentally also not that fussed about makeup .

Ditto. The women I hang out with have other things to discuss. The topic of clothes and make-up never comes up.

Sevan is my spouse and one of the androgynes here on susans.
So in a way I have a husband and a wife in one spouse.



Ze doesn't wear make up hardly ever and got me without the stuff when I was a 'guy'.