Quote from: sonopoly on October 27, 2011, 03:51:27 PM
I'm a gg (or whatever you want to call me), and I have worn make up since my teens.  I don't know, as someone else here said, I like to look pretty and my best for myself and how it makes me feel.  I take pride in my appearance and keep my weight down and refuse to "let myself go". 

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This +1 and ftw. I don't think a lot of transwomen look good without makeup personally. It's the same as GGs...

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 27, 2011, 04:22:43 PM
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This +1 and ftw. I don't think a lot of transwomen look good without makeup personally. It's the same as GGs...

This is your opinion and you are entitled to it.. Just don't tell people they must all agree with and follow your opinion..

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 27, 2011, 05:12:17 PM
This is your opinion and you are entitled to it.. Just don't tell people they must all agree with and follow your opinion..

When did I ever say that? I simply expressed my opinion.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 24, 2011, 03:21:09 PM
I can't help but notice there are a lot of girls here who seem proud of not wearing makeup. What is the logic in that?

In my opinion, most ciswomen need makeup(minimal) to even look good when they leave the house in the morning. Add to that contouring/highlighting can change an andro face into a femme face. It is a trick employed by drag queens, which I feel could be useful here. You do nude eye instead of cut creases and you won't look like a drag queen. It's all in moderation. But not wearing makeup, makes you immediately clockable IMO...facial prettiness aside.

So why wouldn't people here wear cosmetics? Is it because they don't know how? Are they merely waiting for the effects of HRT to kick in? I knew I waited almost 15 months in to kick up my makeup...But I was very much into the "zero phase" prototype stage of the early transition. I didn't have a feminine mother or sister encouraging me to dress differently. My therapist had advised me not to get hair extensions and do crazy makeup to avoid looking like a "stereotypical trans"...she was so wrong.

Truth is, all women need some form of makeup to look good. Unless you are swimming or hiking, there is NO REASON not to wear it.

Enlighten me.

Re read your own OP... Especially the line that starts with 'Truth is..'

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 27, 2011, 05:38:42 PM
Re read your own OP... Especially the line that starts with 'Truth is..'

Bleh. Not gonna argue with you... It's not worth it.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 27, 2011, 05:47:02 PM
Bleh. Not gonna argue with you... It's not worth it.

Aww, why not? You've argued with everyone who didn't agree with your opinion..

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 27, 2011, 06:30:48 PM
Aww, why not? You've argued with everyone who didn't agree with your opinion..

Discoke shark decides which arguments are worth fighting.

Hurray, a white flag! Mahsa we applaud your humility.

  Lol i think you guys are taking what she said a little to seriously.   

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 27, 2011, 05:38:42 PM
Re read your own OP... Especially the line that starts with 'Truth is..'

All I read was her opinion.

The reality is that a lot of ts need FFS due to their masculine facial bone structures. Makeup alone can sort of help feminize the harsh features a bit. Even then many times we just end up looking like men with makeup on. But it can help if you know how to apply it correctly. And you should if your goal is to look more female. I think that was Mahsa's point.

Quote from: JenJen2011 on October 27, 2011, 07:10:01 PM
All I read was her opinion.

The reality is that a lot of ts need FFS due to their masculine facial bone structures. Makeup alone can sort of help feminize the harsh features a bit. Even then many times we just end up looking like men with makeup on. But it can help if you know how to apply it correctly. And you should if your goal is to look more female. I think that was Mahsa's point.

  + 1

Quote from: cynthialee on October 26, 2011, 05:19:55 PM
Some jobs really kinda demand that a girl wear the stuff.

As I am disabled I do not work anymore. But if I did I would not wear the stuff to work.
I am was a profesional line cook.

Make up won't last an hour in that environment. I have seen the cooks line ruin a waitress's makeup in a few minutes as she stops into discuss the meals she has ordered with the cook.

If someone complains you arent wearing the right makeup, you could always stab them with that spear in your avatars hand.

 

Quote from: Akashiya Moka on October 26, 2011, 11:53:20 PM
~That's because they don't really need to; older women are already hooked by then.... Everyone knows the big money is in the (much larger) anti-aging market, and makeup is a large part of that. The industry is always trying to reach the younger generations so they can turn them into lifelong product junkies too—and perpetuate their very successful business model indefinitely.

you're correct, anti aging products are the bigger market.  I just turned 45 this year.  in my avatar pic, I'm wearing covergirl lipcolor, and a brown shade of eyeshadow.  eyeliner is tattoo'd and I dont wear foundation or blush.  I moisturize 2x daily with neutrogena.........with all the anti aging stuff I use (1% Rx Retin A, and 6% hydroquinone (skin bleach) I dont need alot of makeup because my skin cells have a good turnover rate on my face thus giving me nice shiny youthful skin.
I've had my lips tattoo'd with brown color as well but I still use lipcolor sometimes

Quote from: Jamie Nicole on October 27, 2011, 08:37:01 PM
you're correct, anti aging products are the bigger market.  I just turned 45 this year.  in my avatar pic, I'm wearing covergirl lipcolor, and a brown shade of eyeshadow.  eyeliner is tattoo'd and I dont wear foundation or blush.  I moisturize 2x daily with neutrogena.........with all the anti aging stuff I use (1% Rx Retin A, and 6% hydroquinone (skin bleach) I dont need alot of makeup because my skin cells have a good turnover rate on my face thus giving me nice shiny youthful skin.
I've had my lips tattoo'd with brown color as well but I still use lipcolor sometimes

You look beautiful Jamie.

Lips tattooed? that is so interesting. I will have to learn more about that.

Quote from: Morrigan on October 27, 2011, 06:58:37 PM
Hurray, a white flag! Mahsa we applaud your humility.

Yeah...you wish.   

Quote from: JenJen2011 on October 27, 2011, 07:10:01 PM
All I read was her opinion.

The reality is that a lot of ts need FFS due to their masculine facial bone structures. Makeup alone can sort of help feminize the harsh features a bit. Even then many times we just end up looking like men with makeup on. But it can help if you know how to apply it correctly. And you should if your goal is to look more female. I think that was Mahsa's point.

JenJen...thank you!

Quote from: JenJen2011 on October 27, 2011, 07:10:01 PM
All I read was her opinion.

Quote from: MahsaTruth is, all women need some form of makeup to look good. Unless you are swimming or hiking, there is NO REASON not to wear it

When you make sweeping generalizations and call it "the truth," you imply that everyone who disagrees is wrong.

By the way, it's the same way of operating that perpetuates misinformation and bigotry against minorities (like trans people).

Quote from: Valeriedoeswcs on October 27, 2011, 08:57:54 PM
You look beautiful Jamie.

Lips tattooed? that is so interesting. I will have to learn more about that.

yeah, permanent cosmetics! lol.....my lips were so swollen afterwards I looked like a damn blowfish!

Quote from: Butterflyhugs on October 27, 2011, 11:05:15 PM
When you make sweeping generalizations and call it "the truth," you imply that everyone who disagrees is wrong.

By the way, it's the same way of operating that perpetuates misinformation and bigotry against minorities (like trans people).

And young people, especially, are very susceptible to these generalizations and learn to internalize those beliefs themselves, thus allowing the misinformation to curdle within another generation.