this might be a threath already, but how is it on this point?

I really wanna go and swim with my friends for the future but I am unsure if it even will be posible since im not planning on bottom surgery anytime soon or maybe never?

whats your experience?

You don't need to have had bottom surgery to go swimming. What sort of person is going to walk up to someone and be like,
"Hey, I was staring at your crotch and noticed the lack of a stereotypical bulge. Do you have a vagina?"
Yeah..no. I go swimming a lot, and I haven't even had top surg.

Quote from: nobody on October 31, 2011, 11:59:21 AM
You don't need to have had bottom surgery to go swimming. What sort of person is going to walk up to someone and be like,
"Hey, I was staring at your crotch and noticed the lack of a stereotypical bulge. Do you have a vagina?"
Yeah..no. I go swimming a lot, and I haven't even had top surg.

dunno, just had the dicussion with a trans of how people could kick you out for it..

Definitely not.. the only issue with someone kicking you out of anywhere would happen in a changing room, so just make sure you change in a stall or wear your suit to the pool if you use the men's room.

Quote from: nobody on October 31, 2011, 12:03:58 PM
Definitely not.. the only issue with someone kicking you out of anywhere would happen in a changing room, so just make sure you change in a stall or wear your suit to the pool if you use the men's room.

not so worried of that I could wear a towel over and noone would notice, but there is the rule that you has to be naked when you shower before and after the swimming and it kinda concern me because I cant hide with a towel there..

Strange, I've never heard of a pool having that rule. They can't force you to get naked though, so just shower with your suit on - I don't think they're gonna have an employee standing there making sure everyone strips down. :b

Quote from: nobody on October 31, 2011, 12:11:38 PM
Strange, I've never heard of a pool having that rule. They can't force you to get naked though, so just shower with your suit on - I don't think they're gonna have an employee standing there making sure everyone strips down. :b

a suit is like your bathing trunks right?)

maybe its just in my country? but there use to be like this list who is in every swimming hall of some bathing rules, cant remember exactly how many, but they concern you shower before and after the swimming, and one of the rules are not to have clothes swimming trucks on while your under the shower.

I dont remember exactly how clearly there followed or not since its been many years since I been to swimming.

Where do you live?

I doubt they'd force you to undress, like, privacy policies and stuff. You should check it out.

And on the whole, I don't really swim, and when I do it's on a quiet beach or someone's backyard pool. But I know a guy who never packs unless he's going for a swim. And he warned me that if you pack while swimming (especially for at the beach and stuff) you have to make sure that your packer dries like your body does, 'cause he has a friend who had a packer which obsorbed some water, meaning his crotch was still wet while the rest of him had long dried. Awkward

Quote from: Natkat on October 31, 2011, 12:19:43 PM
a suit is like your bathing trunks right?)

maybe its just in my country? but there use to be like this list who is in every swimming hall of some bathing rules, cant remember exactly how many, but they concern you shower before and after the swimming, and one of the rules are not to have clothes swimming trucks on while your under the shower.

I dont remember exactly how clearly there followed or not since its been many years since I been to swimming.

Yep - suit, shorts, trunks, same thing.

Well, I know it's common to have to shower before you get in the water because otherwise people would track a lot of dirt and gross unwashed body stuff into the pool, but like Nathan said I doubt they can legally force anyone to shower completely naked.
I would say just do it anyways.
What country are you from? (If you don't want to say, that's cool.)

Quote from: nobody on October 31, 2011, 12:35:27 PM
Yep - suit, shorts, trunks, same thing.

Well, I know it's common to have to shower before you get in the water because otherwise people would track a lot of dirt and gross unwashed body stuff into the pool, but like Nathan said I doubt they can legally force anyone to shower completely naked.
I would say just do it anyways.
What country are you from? (If you don't want to say, that's cool.)

I'm from Denmark which is a small country in scandinavia.
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I guess so, well again its been a long time since I have been in a swimming hall but generally as young kid you can shower with your dad or mom, but as you turn older 8+ then you must go into the boys or girls room.
back when I where swimming I where still in school so we had our teacher with us who made sure we where "washing ourself probebly"

if I went by myself or a friend I bet we wont have the same kinda obsevation I really doubt. yet, bathing is often the thing who really seam to offend people, and makes alot of drama, so want to hear what you thought of it?

I just hope to be able to swim with my friends..

Yes I have heard of Denmark You could try to look up your local pool online to see if they have specific rules posted.

I would say, if anyone tries to cause a fuss about you showering with your shorts on you can either defend yourself based on personal privacy rights, or you can out yourself as transgender to the manager/someone of authority, but I don't think the second option would be necessary.

In Sweden, where I'm from, most Swedish public pools have that rule. It's just to make sure that the pools won't get dirty and such. Nobody forces anyone to strip nude in the changing rooms, many teenagers are shy about their bodies and will shower in their swimwear, and that's okay.

Quote from: PixieBoy on October 31, 2011, 01:04:56 PM
In Sweden, where I'm from, most Swedish public pools have that rule. It's just to make sure that the pools won't get dirty and such. Nobody forces anyone to strip nude in the changing rooms, many teenagers are shy about their bodies and will shower in their swimwear, and that's okay.

nobody; every place has this rule, im just unsure how important is since I always followed it, even thought I hate it,
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pix; I guess it probebly the same, I am glad so,

Same rule here in Iceland.
I just wear my trunks while walking 'round the locker room before swimming and pick a shower that I can face the wall comfortably in and wash with 'em on and if the shower guard talks to me I just say "yep, I will, no worries" and I do.. I do wash without the trunks on, I wait until I have a chance to do so "alone" (obviously, I don't go when it's crowded, drop drawers a little, and wash, then pull 'em back up!

After the pool, I do pretty much the same thing, then hop off to the bathroom so I can take 'em off properly, squeeze the water out of 'em, and dry off a little. Then the towel takes their place.

Is a bit stressful cause I'm still getting used to it and all, but no-one's given me any trouble.

Just don't shower.  Problem solved.

Oh wow.  that is messed up.   I think other countries have much less of a problem with "nakedness" than America.
In America, I've never heard of such a strict rule over people to shower naked.  I've never even heard of "shower guards."

The most I've heard of is people asking you to rinse before you get in the pool, and most people just splash water on their hair (while in their swimsuit) and then get in the pool, and no one really cares.  And I've never heard of people asked to shower after you get out of the pool, because who the f cares what you do when you get out of their pool.

Yeah, I think America in general doesn't like getting naked in front of other people.  Sometimes there are showers without stall doors. and some people don't mind.  but, it's really not common in my experience.

And I still NEVER showered before getting in the pool.  I just waited until no one important was looking at me, and I jumped in the pool, then I was soaking wet, and no one knew I hadn't showered first.

Quote from: JohnAlex on November 01, 2011, 01:24:47 AM
Oh wow.  that is messed up.   I think other countries have much less of a problem with "nakedness" than America.
In America, I've never heard of such a strict rule over people to shower naked.  I've never even heard of "shower guards."

The most I've heard of is people asking you to rinse before you get in the pool, and most people just splash water on their hair (while in their swimsuit) and then get in the pool, and no one really cares.  And I've never heard of people asked to shower after you get out of the pool, because who the f cares what you do when you get out of their pool.

Yeah, I think America in general doesn't like getting naked in front of other people.  Sometimes there are showers without stall doors. and some people don't mind.  but, it's really not common in my experience.

And I still NEVER showered before getting in the pool.  I just waited until no one important was looking at me, and I jumped in the pool, then I was soaking wet, and no one knew I hadn't showered first.

I hope you dont mind, I found it alittle disgusting to think of no one wash themself before going to the poll, when I think about it, it dosent sound so much of a diffrent when you with private people just can go directly down and take a swim, but I guess its just culture thing.
I might not be stopped if I dont shower but well, its not really good manners. kinda like walked somewhere inside with shoes on your not allowed to. (the best exemple I came up with..)
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I see, but itsnt it also in the US there are more strick rules about bathing wear right? I mean on the beach? if your naked or something?.
I heard something that you cant really be naked on the beach but I dont know if its a myth.

meh the things that go in the pool are way more gross than not washing beforehand.  Chlorine takes care of most of it anyway.

What do you guys wear for swim clothes?  I wear lose swim bottoms like boys trunks. I don't usually wear a packer.  The top is my problem, I don't want to wear anything that when it get wet it will be flat tight against my chest.  I don't want to bind much either as it gets tight and twisted when I in the water and swim.

There are lots of nude (clothing optional) beaches in California.  In other states not so much.  But, being that most states are landlocked, they don't have beaches at all.  We've always argued about nudity in hot tubs and Jacuzzi spas, most people don't like wearing suits in them, on the other hand if the hot tub is at your parents house - and your parents are in it - then perhaps a suit has a function.