Are ->-bleeped-<-s considered part of the TS spectrum?

Sure, why not?

Yes...

Of course you'll certainly find girls that are offended if someone calls them a ->-bleeped-<-.  It may not be the endearing of terms at times.  LOL.

yep u just found one that is a derogatory term usually applied to us by cis gendered bigots and gross over weight truck drivers looking for a cheap thrill why any trans person would self identify as that is beyond me
jessi

Quote from: jesse on November 01, 2011, 11:30:50 PM
yep u just found one that is a derogatory term usually applied to us by cis gendered bigots and gross over weight truck drivers looking for a cheap thrill why any trans person would self identify as that is beyond me
jessi

Really?

I mean ->-bleeped-<- performers...are they not women?

->-bleeped-<- performers are usually gay men doing a drag queen performance which i personally will walk out of everytime because its an over the top parody on us hence the excessive makeup overly large and pointy boobs the club i frequent here in Denver does it on sunday and i have to wonder for a trans friendly bar do they realize how offensive this is or maybe its just me
Jessi

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 01, 2011, 11:07:01 PM
Are ->-bleeped-<-s considered part of the TS spectrum?

Yes

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 01, 2011, 11:37:02 PM
Really?

I mean ->-bleeped-<- performers...are they not women?

->-bleeped-<- performers..?... like porn stars?? some are some aren't!

I think we're going into a different area with all this.

I wouldn't call a drag performer a ->-bleeped-<- or a "->-bleeped-<-".  I think a drag queen is just a drag queen. Typically a gay man the impersonates a woman for a show, but has no real intention of ever living as a female

Some drag queens may eventually fall into a "->-bleeped-<-" category. IE gay man that dresses for a sexual thrill from time to time.

i concede that i may be a little sensitive to things like this so i may be biased heavily against this type of thing perhaps others would like to offer opinions on it maybe that way we can get an unofficial test of the general feeling of it in the community hereat Susan's
Jessi
as far as being included in trans umbrella i guess if they identify as trans then yes but if i infact am right as i suspect  i am and it is a parody then heck no

It should depend on what the individual wants to be called. If someone wants to identify as a ->-bleeped-<- and as trans, where is the problem?

if were talking the porn performers then im way off base and bleh lol

Quote from: monica93304 on November 01, 2011, 11:48:34 PM
I think we're going into a different area with all this.

I wouldn't call a drag performer a ->-bleeped-<- or a "->-bleeped-<-".  I think a drag queen is just a drag queen. Typically a gay man the impersonates a woman for a show, but has no real intention of ever living as a female

Some drag queens may eventually fall into a "->-bleeped-<-" category. IE gay man that dresses for a sexual thrill from time to time.

I am referring to pron stars.

Quote from: jesse on November 01, 2011, 11:42:22 PM
->-bleeped-<- performers are usually gay men doing a drag queen performance which i personally will walk out of everytime because its an over the top parody on us hence the excessive makeup overly large and pointy boobs the club i frequent here in Denver does it on sunday and i have to wonder for a trans friendly bar do they realize how offensive this is or maybe its just me
Jessi

Really, my dream is wear a ton of makeup and having pointy boobs... 90% of my friends are drag queens...

the problem for me is how the term is usually applied towards us by cis gender males its meant as an insult which is why i wonder why a trans person would self identify as such im not challenger the identity just wondering why too me its like a gay person self identifying as the derogatory ->-bleeped-<- wtf do u have a self esteam issue or something
jessi

more power too you mahsa
i hope you are successful in the persuit unfortunately you will never see me in the audience
Jessi

I just hate it when a guy's headline on a dating site says, "SEEKING TS/CD/LADYBOY/->-bleeped-<-." I'd like to meet the person that is all of those in one! 

Quote from: jesse on November 01, 2011, 11:58:03 PM
more power too you mahsa
i hope you are successful in the persuit unfortunately you will never see me in the audience
Jessi

I got a call to audition for the local Transgender nightclub... I consider it to be a compliment of the highest degree. Boyfriend wouldn't allow me to though...

We have different people in our community and because someone is OTT and ultra feminine doesn't make them any less valid.

agree as i said I'm not questioning the identity i just don't like the term I've seen how it is applied to us by ->-bleeped-<-s and cis males if it gets applied to me its an instant argument
but thats me others may have a different take on it
jessi

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 01, 2011, 11:07:01 PM
Are ->-bleeped-<-s considered part of the TS spectrum?

Hissssssss....you've used one of those words, the ones that really offend me. I'm not mad at you for doing so, you're asking a genuine, honest question which is worthy of asking, but still...hisssssssssss....

Those porn stars may or may not be part of the spectrum. As I understand it, a great deal of them are actually transwomen looking for a way to make a living and to fund their transition.

Quote from: Sailor_Saturn on November 02, 2011, 12:15:16 AM
Hissssssss....you've used one of those words, the ones that really offend me. I'm not mad at you for doing so, you're asking a genuine, honest question which is worthy of asking, but still...hisssssssssss....

Those porn stars may or may not be part of the spectrum. As I understand it, a great deal of them are actually transwomen looking for a way to make a living and to fund their transition.

I meant the porn stars and nothing else.