Quote from: jesse on November 02, 2011, 03:13:42 AM
or the people you met were to polite to laugh in your face
what do you need her pics for mahsa your about as ugly as they come lol
jessi

   Wow.....rude much?

Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 02, 2011, 03:22:47 AM
Stay on subject please!

  Yes mam! Sometimes when i'm comparing myself to genetic women...i feel like a boy or "pretend girl" & i really hate that feeling. 

sometimes its ok to call her a lier but not to call the other ugly lol what a joke no worries ill delete the post out of respect for jen and her thread
peace out
jessi

tonight I was laying here in girly pajamas just relaxing and I couldn't help but feel male in how i was laying.

it seems to happen more when im alone. even if im out as male I feel i act way more effeminate around others and when by myself tend to just feel manly.

I pay it little mind though. if i analyze what I'm doing its nothing that is strictly male, i just happen to feel male while doing it for some reason.
since I'm not far in transition its not bothering me too much now, but i can see it getting to em alter if it continues.

No not really.. I feel like a girl and love what I am becoming.

I am very girly and maybe it because I try so hard to be that woman I know I am.. I even got a compliant from a female friend. She said she cant believe how much of a girl I am.

I wear a lot of dresses, I love wearing makeup, earings and heels.. I can shoe shop with the best of them ..maybe that me trying too hard... but it who I am.

I love been pampered and then I feel like a princess.

Feeling like a boy... what is that exactly?
I identify as female but there are plenty stereotypical "male" things I just love to do.
Because I was raised as male I came into contact wit masculine passtimes sooner than with feminine passtimes so it is not surprisingly I found several of my interests there. When playing with Lego I don't feel like a boy, I just feel like a child. When preparing my airplane for a flight I don't feel like the stereotypical male captain, no I just feel like me, doing what I like.

I feel like this a lot...probably because I'm still pre-everything, but it goes away more often when I'm alone.  Not so much around other people though.  It's why I had to stop living full-time; between all my masculine bodily flaws, still being called "he" (by people I know), and paranoia about getting clocked, I couldn't help but feel like something someone stepped in...like I deserved put-downs for looking not like a girl, but a "boy who wants to be a girl". 

I still wear feminine clothes most of the time, but I admit to everyone around me that I'm biologically male (use the boys room, allow people to call me "he", etc.)  I haven't decided if I'm being more genuine to my current situation, or less genuine to myself, but it does stop making me feel like a "pretend girl" because I'm not fighting the uphill battle of completely passing.

Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 01, 2011, 09:53:35 PM
Do you ever feel like your just a boy man with long hair and make up,wearing girl cloths? No matter how good you pass or how much you know you are a girl?

Yeah, when I've got a circular saw in my hand ready to rip a sheet of 4'x8' plywood that I just picked up and set on the saw horses.  Or when I'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt and a baseball cap as I shovel a yard of black dirt into a new plant bed I just made with retaining wall blocks.  Or when I'm using a 150 pound power rodder that I just lugged down the stairs to clean out the sewer line to the street and the fresh aroma of raw sewage is wafting in the air.

It's hard to feel girly at times like that. 

Quote from: jesse on November 02, 2011, 03:31:22 AM
sometimes its ok to call her a lier but not to call the other ugly lol what a joke no worries ill delete the post out of respect for jen and her thread
peace out
jessi

Did you call me ugly?

Quote from: jesse on November 02, 2011, 03:31:22 AM
sometimes its ok to call her a lier but not to call the other ugly lol what a joke no worries ill delete the post out of respect for jen and her thread
peace out
jessi

Love how I can understand everything you say perfectly.

Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 01, 2011, 09:53:35 PM
Do you ever feel like your just a boy with long hair and make up,wearing girl cloths? No matter how good you pass or how much you know you are a girl?


I feel like this sometimes

I know that feeling and is not a good thing, so I decided to fight it.
I decided first to feel like ME, then to do the things I like, to have a long hair, sometimes wear make up and dress woman clothes. It was very difficult to me to say if I feel male or female, since I´ve never been inside the mind of any other person, male or female, to know how does it feels.
Now I clearly identify myself as a woman, because I do the same things that lots of women do.

Quote from: noleen111 on November 02, 2011, 10:04:36 AM
No not really.. I feel like a girl and love what I am becoming.

I am very girly and maybe it because I try so hard to be that woman I know I am.. I even got a compliant from a female friend. She said she cant believe how much of a girl I am.

I wear a lot of dresses, I love wearing makeup, earings and heels.. I can shoe shop with the best of them ..maybe that me trying too hard... but it who I am.

I love been pampered and then I feel like a princess.

I got complimented on my shirt by my mum's partner the other day. He NEVER notices clothing so it was kinda cool. It was a guy's shirt. I like the boost I get from looking like a girl in guy's clothes - the way they hang on my slight frame and show off curves that they aren't designed to accommodate. It soothes my dysphoria, and makes me feel like a proper girl, not fake, not pretend. Whereas dresses, makeup, dangly earrings, and heels often make me kind of uncomfortable, like I'm trying to be someone I'm not.

My name means princess, and my evil sister has turned it into a nickname 'cause she likes the irony. But really I am a princess, just a very different kind.

When I put on a dress I feel like a fake girl. My shoulders seem to get wider than they are and I become very self concious of them and my arms. I should try to get used to this more since i sometimes like dresses.

I've often felt and, dare I say wished, I could be a real boy. I worked hard on it. Still there came times in my life when I said what am I doing and seriously considered transitioning. The years of shame and guilt never allowed be to feel comfortable being a woman. A good 80% of the time out in the real world, I just felt like some guy in a dress. So I went back to pretending to be a guy. Far less guilt in that.

Fast forward a few decades. I still have some guilt. The wrong words, no matter how innocently said or well intentioned, can still temporarily guilt me into wanting to chuck it all. A good 90% of the time and 100% while presenting I feel good about myself now.

Psh.

I feel the absolute best when I'm not thinking about it.

Physically sometimes and I blame that on chemicals.

Spiritually, no, deep down inside, I am a girl and I have best friends waiting for me who I haven't physically met yet.

Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 02, 2011, 01:01:32 AM
Thank you, and I will try and punch it!

Not a problem. I give a mental slap to myself whenever thoughts like this show up, and being an Army brat I tend to think in combative terms. Sorry if that came off as awkward.

Quote from: Jen-Jen on November 02, 2011, 01:01:32 AM
oh no please no! I know its not who I am! I know I'm a girl inside!

I believe this individual was talking about their own gender identity, not yours.

Quote from: Rukia87xo on November 02, 2011, 03:29:20 AM
  Yes mam! Sometimes when i'm comparing myself to genetic women...i feel like a boy or "pretend girl" & i really hate that feeling. 

oh don't compare honey that's the worse!  Omg! It makes me so jealous and fustrated when I do that. 

Quote from: jesse on November 02, 2011, 03:31:22 AM
sometimes its ok to call her a lier but not to call the other ugly lol what a joke no worries ill delete the post out of respect for jen and her thread
peace out
jessi

Thank you for the respect,  Jessi

Quote from: noleen111 on November 02, 2011, 10:04:36 AM
No not really.. I feel like a girl and love what I am becoming.

I am very girly and maybe it because I try so hard to be that woman I know I am.. I even got a compliant from a female friend. She said she cant believe how much of a girl I am.

I wear a lot of dresses, I love wearing makeup, earings and heels.. I can shoe shop with the best of them ..maybe that me trying too hard... but it who I am.

I love been pampered and then I feel like a princess.

I am very girly too, I get the same complaint, but I take it as a compliment. I always get told "your such a girl!" But I still feel like a boy in etc, ect! Sometimes.

Quote from: Venus-Castina on November 02, 2011, 10:24:29 AM
Feeling like a boy... what is that exactly?
I identify as female but there are plenty stereotypical "male" things I just love to do.
Because I was raised as male I came into contact wit masculine passtimes sooner than with feminine passtimes so it is not surprisingly I found several of my interests there. When playing with Lego I don't feel like a boy, I just feel like a child. When preparing my airplane for a flight I don't feel like the stereotypical male captain, no I just feel like me, doing what I like.

I don't know what it is, but I feel it. I identify as female too but I still feel like a boy sometimes, and not because of the stereotypical boy stuff I like.

Quote from: Amaranth on November 02, 2011, 11:05:51 AM
I feel like this a lot...probably because I'm still pre-everything, but it goes away more often when I'm alone.  Not so much around other people though.  It's why I had to stop living full-time; between all my masculine bodily flaws, still being called "he" (by people I know), and paranoia about getting clocked, I couldn't help but feel like something someone stepped in...like I deserved put-downs for looking not like a girl, but a "boy who wants to be a girl". 

I still wear feminine clothes most of the time, but I admit to everyone around me that I'm biologically male (use the boys room, allow people to call me "he", etc.)  I haven't decided if I'm being more genuine to my current situation, or less genuine to myself, but it does stop making me feel like a "pretend girl" because I'm not fighting the uphill battle of completely passing.

I am pre everything too! Your right it does go away more often when I am alone. You are so right! I wear femme cloths sometimes, I hate admitting bio male, and I hate being called he him any male pronouns but I allow it.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 02, 2011, 12:04:48 AM
But seriously, no matter how passable you are...People can still tell.

You are quite wrong on that.

To answer the OP, no. I've never ever felt like a boy. That's why I transitioned.

I suppose I should clarify:

I really don't know if I have ever felt like a boy. Just don't. I don't think so.

But seriously, no matter how passable you are...People can still tell.

People can tell in my case, and they still think I'm beautiful. I'm a winner.

Quote from: Julie Marie on November 02, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
Yeah, when I've got a circular saw in my hand ready to rip a sheet of 4'x8' plywood that I just picked up and set on the saw horses.  Or when I'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt and a baseball cap as I shovel a yard of black dirt into a new plant bed I just made with retaining wall blocks.  Or when I'm using a 150 pound power rodder that I just lugged down the stairs to clean out the sewer line to the street and the fresh aroma of raw sewage is wafting in the air.

It's hard to feel girly at times like that.

I agree, that would be pretty hard.

Quote from: Julo on November 02, 2011, 04:25:50 PM
When I put on a dress I feel like a fake girl. My shoulders seem to get wider than they are and I become very self concious of them and my arms. I should try to get used to this more since i sometimes like dresses.

ughh ... the shoulders,  I know I hate when they do that! I like dresses too!

Quote from: Sarah7 on November 02, 2011, 12:56:33 PM
I got complimented on my shirt by my mum's partner the other day. He NEVER notices clothing so it was kinda cool. It was a guy's shirt. I like the boost I get from looking like a girl in guy's clothes - the way they hang on my slight frame and show off curves that they aren't designed to accommodate. It soothes my dysphoria, and makes me feel like a proper girl, not fake, not pretend. Whereas dresses, makeup, dangly earrings, and heels often make me kind of uncomfortable, like I'm trying to be someone I'm not.

My name means princess, and my evil sister has turned it into a nickname 'cause she likes the irony. But really I am a princess, just a very different kind.

that would definetly be a great boost! You are a princess! Takes one to know one.

Quote from: EmmaM on November 02, 2011, 07:09:40 PM
Psh.

I feel the absolute best when I'm not thinking about it.

Ditto!