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The Dangers of Plucking...

Started by Maya Zimmerman, October 06, 2011, 09:59:13 AM

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Maya Zimmerman

So, I've heard plenty of times that plucking damages follicles and hinders the effectiveness of electrolysis.  Being desperate to be free of facial hair and simultaneously seeing electrolysis as a financial impossibility for at least a decade, I've been thinning it out using plucking and am essentially just trying to squeeze in enough time between work and parenting to get it all cleared.  I've seen a lot of laser advocacy on this board and it seems like you girls know a thing or two about it.  Does the same concern over follicle damage come up with laser?  The salon I'm looking at suggests a waiting period between plucking and going in for laser, but doesn't say anything about plucking hindering the process.
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Jennifer_Lynn

The laser need a hair to transmit the energy down to the root. Laser works best on fair skin and dark hairs. I can't imagine plucking my facial hairs. That must hurt honey. You could always get a one touch electrolysis machine. There about 30.00. I use one and have cleared my upper lip under my lip and almost both cheeks down to my jaw line. It can be done if you are willing to put in the time. Email me if you want to know more.

Isabella

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Maya Zimmerman

Isabella - You're the first person I've heard with positive feedback on One Touch.  When you say cleared, do you mean that it no longer grows in?  How long have you been working on it to get to that point and how long have the hairs that are gone stayed gone?  I mean, One Touch is cheaper than even one trip for laser at the really cheap place by me.  I guess I wouldn't mind taking time if I knew I could be rid of it.  Oh, but I'd definitely have to stop plucking altogether for sure... Yeah, it hurts terribly, but going from the literal 5 o'clock shadow (shave in the morning, stubble by the evening) to having nothing at all or a few stragglers to pluck out here or there every day for a couple of weeks is worth it for me.
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smooth

Plucking is something that shouldn't be done on the face or neck, specifically the beard. Eyebrows are ok but the beard including those areas getting up under the eyes that some people suffer with should not be plucked. First off plucking can actually cause scarring and pigment change in extreme cases. It also encourages additional growth and stronger re-growth and here's why. When a beard hair is plucked it's being torn away form it's root (papilla) and ripped from it's follicle, sometimes with root sheath included, it hurts! but with NO long term benefit, NO gain for your PAIN. Strong words I know but that's what's happening. Your body's immediate reaction is to increase blood supply to the area to initiate healing and produce another hair. There are instances where enough damage is done to render the follicle redundant but this is the exception and happens more in some areas of the body than others, the face isn't one of them, sadly! Because of the way the hair was removed (plucked/waxed, torn out) the body will endeavour to produce a stronger hair next time round. There is a possibility that the hair will become deeper rooted and stronger/thicker and possibly darker.... These hairs are harder to treat and require more energy and ultimately discomfort than would otherwise have been the case. By plucking a hair you might strengthen the follicle to a point where laser won't touch it and electrolysis with higher than normal energy will be required to disable it. Remember the hair itself is just the "fruit" of the follicle. To prevent another hair the follicle has to be disabled. Laser does have some success but more often than not electrolysis is needed to finish an area and get rid of the stubborn hairs or the grey or red hairs that laser doesn't generally touch. I haven't heard of any results on a beard with IPL and I think it's a waste of time and money. I'd be a little wary of anyone offering electrolysis and IPL together, it's pretty common knowledge among electrologists that IPL isn't effective.
At first plucking can appear to be improving an area with the hairs appearing finer when they rear their ugly heads again, this is an illusion. When a hair first appears above the skin it will be fine and pointed, as it grows within the follicle below the skin it will become thicker as all hairs do. It's not often with a male beard that this is apparent as this will normally occur out of site between other thicker hairs which disguise what's actually happening. It would be hard to see this without proper magnification and who would really take the time to look anyway.
Sometimes when a hair is plucked enough damage is done to the follicle to cause a plug of scar tissue to block the follicle. This doesn't prevent another hair from forming, the hair will grow away quite happily beneath the skin creating an ingrown hair. Ingrowns apart from being unsightly are difficult to treat and can end up getting infected and causing scarring as a result of digging around in an attempt to remove them. People familiar with waxing their legs and bikini area will probably know what I am talking about.
I hope this helps  :)
see you on the beach....
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smooth

A quick after thought  :) Something else with ingrowns that folks may well have noticed already. An ingrown hair quite often manifests itself as a bump or small raised area on the skin. These bumps are prone to be shaved off when shaving, obviously this isn't an ideal scenario. Nothing worse than trying to stem blood flow or weeping body fluid from a damaged area after shaving when you're intending to use foundation shortly after.... Quite often these small spots of damage can ruin a well made up face because they persist in weeping for some time afterwards.
I think that's it ;) TTFN
see you on the beach....
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Lallie

Thank you, Smooth, for the very useful and clear information about hair growth and removal. It looks like I'll be shaving or using Veet until I'm able to get electrolysis.

:) Lallie

PS: What about singeing my hand-hair with a flame? I did it the first time by accident, with no apparent ill effects.
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smooth

ha ha yeah singeing it with a flame might work as a temporary fix but it's not the best smell in the world. be careful if you use hair spray as well. What's the delay in getting electrolysis, what's holding you back?
see you on the beach....
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Lallie

The partner factor is my main obstacle, Smooth. I will begin as soon as I resolve it.

:) Lallie
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lilacwoman

electrologists have a vested interest in claiming IPL doesnt work but I had quite definite black hairs on my face that have all gone with the IPL.
From tests I have to say that a single burst of IPL isn't as effcetive as double bursts even thoiugh thats not recommended.

The sting of IPL must be because the follicle is being heated to death point?

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smooth

Sounds like you've been lucky lilac from what I've read IPL doesn't normally make much of an impact on hair anywhere let alone the face where typically it is harder to kill. Especially upper lip and around the chin and mouth. Good to hear that you had some sucess I can only assume that your hairs must have been weaker than is typical?
see you on the beach....
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