I met such a case, and it made me wonder...

Any help?

Axelle

I dunno... Are you sure that person really detests all women?  My wife generally does not like women, has very few female friends, and makes a point of saying that she doesn't get along with women... but she's quite content to have a vagina.  I don't think being a woman is indicative of any specific form of relating to other women.

Why do some humans do the things they do?

Umm, what kind of transwoman would detest females?

Is that supposed to be common? I don't understand.

No idea if it is common - but then who knows?

I think Maya has a point in her post. Thank you.

I have seen this attitude with quite some ggs, but then they AFAB and do not opt for a vj...

In an MtF it struck me almost like a male-gay mind-set. YMMV
Recall, that male-gays have quite a taste for straight cis-males - as do have most cis-females.

Yet more complications?

Axelle

Misogyny and chauvanism take other forms. Just because they are trans doesn't mean their ideas of women change.

I've had married transwomen call me a "->-bleeped-<-got" and a "prostitute"... But my boyfriend has also called me a "->-bleeped-<-got" and a "prostitute".

I hope you gave him one fat smack for THAT!!!

That's VERY hurtful,
Axelle

Quote from: Axélle on November 08, 2011, 02:05:51 AM
I hope you gave him one fat smack for THAT!!!

That's VERY hurtful,
Axelle

My point is that just because someone changes their gender doesn't make them any more tolerant of women or homosexuals or transsexuals who live a lifestyle out of their comfort zone.

Yes! Right!
I got that point - IQ 145 :-)
It seems the correct explanation to this behaviour.

And thank you for clearing this up - it's quite simple actually.

Never stop learning, don't we?
Axelle

Quote from: Axélle on November 08, 2011, 02:25:09 AM
Yes! Right!
I got that point - IQ 145 :-)
It seems the correct explanation to this behaviour.

And thank you for clearing this up - it's quite simple actually.

Never stop learning, don't we?
Axelle

I think it's best I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Maybe you know...

:-)
"Was ich nicht weiß, macht mich nicht heiß" :-)

Exactly, "What I know not - makes me not hot"

Axelle

Quote from: Axélle on November 08, 2011, 02:33:39 AM
:-)
"Was ich nicht weiß, macht mich nicht heiß" :-)

Exactly, "What I know not - makes me not hot"

Axelle

Hahahahaha.... you don't know what you're even sayin.

:-)

"Wie die Dinge so stehen weiß ich sehr genau was ich sage."

We may deeply detest our own (brain)-gender in another person and it may NOT prevent us to change (SRS) our sex to match the detested one.

Sounds a bit tragic to me, but I do go with your explanation of: * Misogyny [sic] and chauvanism [sic] take other forms *

Am learning, as I said,
Axelle

Just to throw down a different perspective,

I can say that in my experience I had very few actual female friends. Not that I couldn't relate to women, or communicate with them, the opposite is actually true.
But I have/had a lot of dysphoria, and I think that as I grew up I became envious/jealous of girls for what I couldn't have. Of course, as I've come out of the closet and started to transition my relationships with my female friends, and women in general, have improved significantly. I'm no longer (as) envious with what they have, because there's a slim possibility that I might actually that as well one day.

Perhaps if a person internalizes the stigma of being trans, feeling guilty or shameful, they might develop a tendency to disparage women because of their personal pain. A la "If I can't have X, it doesn't matter because X is really stupid/ugly/shameful.'

Then again, I've never met another trans woman who had these issues.

you could hate everyone except for yourself and still want what you want.

Quote from: FullMoon19 on November 08, 2011, 06:41:04 PM
you could hate everyone except for yourself and still want what you want.

Transition is kind of self indulgent, yes?

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 08, 2011, 07:07:11 PM
Transition is kind of self indulgent, yes?

right, i don't see it having anything to do with anyone else.

Quote from: FullMoon19 on November 08, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
right, i don't see it having anything to do with anyone else.

Then why do other peoples identities matter? Accept yourself and move on. There's a lot more to life than being trans, those who think otherwise have larger problems going on.

If you have to rationalize being a woman all day long to the world, you miss the entire world. Some things just are and I don't care how they function.

Quote from: Axélle on November 07, 2011, 11:46:21 PM
I met such a case, and it made me wonder...

Any help?

Axelle

Maybe because they haven't accepted that they are transsexual women. It's easy to hate what you aren't(ciswomen)...No matter how close you may come to it.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 08, 2011, 07:12:15 PM
Then why do other peoples identities matter? Accept yourself and move on. There's a lot more to life than being trans, those who think otherwise have larger problems going on.

If you have to rationalize being a woman all day long to the world, you miss the entire world. Some things just are and I don't care how they function.

other people's identities truly don't matter to me. sometimes i'm just really bored, and find myself in these threads.