I was finally able to locate a Endo in southern indiana that i could get an Appointment with, Hisham Allababidi, MD of Deaconess Clinic in Evansville, IN.

http://www.deaconess.com/bodydc.cfm?id=2484 for more info. I was excited as you can imagine no longer would i have to drive 4 hours to meet with

my dr. Well afer check in his nurse took me heigth,weigth ect.. and asked me what drugs or medications i was currently using. She raised her eye when

i said E,spiro,propecia but was still very professional. I showed her my "walking papers" and "HRT Letter" and she asked me "So do you plan on getting

surgery?" to which i replied already booked for July. By this point i was happy as can be, all was going well and she was very accepting so far so good.

The nurse left with my letters and informed me the dr would be in soon to see me. After about 15minutes he came in and looked very angry.

his exact words "What made you assusme we saw people like you". I was too shocked to be pissed (i am really now) and just replied "I have tried

to see every endocronologist in the evansville area and you were the first to give me an appointment." to which he replied "My staff did not ask the

approiate questions i see as i have no training in your area. And as my religious beliefs will not allow me to help you do this. So i cannot have you as

a patient on moral objections." ---now i was starting to cry and asked "I need help dont you an oath to do NO harm. I am worried about DVT and

am self medicating(im really not but said that) and came here for help" to which he replied "I can give you the name of a person who might see you."

I just yelled and said "I HAVE CALLED THEM ALL" and stormed out.

This has been the month from hell........I really hope the whole world isnt aainst me cause it sure feels like it is!

Always something so painful happens to us, I try to think it has nothing to do with us, but with the ignorance of people. I think there are a lot of ignorant people (not only doctors). Probably this doctor didn´t mean to hurt you, but he didn´t know how to behave in a situation new for him.

Perhaps, you have done something good for him, by showing him you are a normal girl asking for medical treatment; probably, after you left, he would had been thinking about the situation and next time he will try to behave better with another patient.

I hope you find a good doctor as soon as possible.

Oh wow. I'm sorry this happened to you. What an ->-bleeped-<-.

Hi is an ->-bleeped-<-, but you really should take him up on his offer to referr you to someone else. He will have checked first.

May I suggest you write to him explaining you were very tired and tense. That there is a lot of pressure but that you understand and appreciate his position.

Then say you would really like to take up his offer to follow up on the Dr he referred to. Can he send you the details now?

Quote from: mandyh92 on November 10, 2011, 04:43:35 PM
I was finally able to locate a Endo in southern indiana that i could get an Appointment with, Hisham Allababidi, MD of Deaconess Clinic in Evansville, IN.


The nurse left with my letters and informed me the dr would be in soon to see me. After about 15minutes he came in and looked very angry.

his exact words "What made you assusme we saw people like you". I was too shocked to be pissed (i am really now) and just replied "I have tried

to see every endocronologist in the evansville area and you were the first to give me an appointment." to which he replied "My staff did not ask the

approiate questions i see as i have no training in your area. And as my religious beliefs will not allow me to help you do this. So i cannot have you as

a patient on moral objections." ---now i was starting to cry and asked "I need help dont you an oath to do NO harm. I am worried about DVT and

am self medicating(im really not but said that) and came here for help" to which he replied "I can give you the name of a person who might see you."

Keep trying Hon, may have to go to the big city or a University Medical Center. Have you contacted any LGBT centers in Indiana? Sorry if this sounds second guessing if you already have.

More disturbing...is this a common attitude amongst Healthcare Providers in Indiana? Are you familiar with the publicized incident at Ball Memorial Hospital? No excuse!

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,82941.msg584129.html#msg584129

I know it can seem that way, its changing but not fast enough!

Hugz,

SJ

That is so sad what happened to you!
Perhaps you could try to disclose the reason for visit while trying to see another doctor with something like cross gender HRT, so you avoid another situation like this where they figure out why you are there and who you are only after you are already in the exam room?
best of luck!

Oh my god I'm so sorry. That isn't right. You deserve so much better. That guy has no right to treat you that way.

I lost a college scholarship once when the agency found out I was a single parent. Everything they said was so mean, I cried for days.

I don't know why people act like this, especially educated professionals. They shouldn't be wearing ignorance like a badge of honor. Society is backwards right now.

That is disgusting and must be against the medical profession oath in the USA, surely? Medics cannot refuse to treat people based on their religious beliefs. Surely that is the moral foulness of refusing medical help based on colour or ethnic background. I would report that person to the State board, I would then see a lawyer and sue the living **** out of them.

I may have used the incorrect terms for boards etc as I'm in Australia. But I can assure a person treating a patient like that here would be barred from practising, and be paying for my SRS from the law suit.

You are a very brave woman to have survived that ordeal.

Hugs and more Hugs

Cindy

sadly Cindy, US doc's may refuse to treat you for any reason. That includes their religious views.

Yeah. Cindy, I've seen doctors refuse to do abortions, refuse to give birth control, even refuse to give basic medical care to people they've decided must be sexually promiscuous (me when I got PID after sleeping with some dude in a monogamous relationship). U.S. Doctors are indeed allowed to refuse care for religious and ethical reasons, and they exercise that right all the time.

I'm still hurt from being ejected from a gynecology office recently. People can be pretty unkind.

Oh wow,

The USA is really that primitive?

Sorry I do not mean that as an insult but Geez  can a Dr can refuse medical treatment because they don't like the patient? What happens in ER? Don't like you; die bitch?

I have to apologise, I'm totally stunned.

So if you run an STD clinic and a person comes in and says I had anal sex last night with another guy, can you test me for AIDS, and your medic can refuse because of self belief??

Sorry, totally stunned, and I thought I knew the market.

Cindy

Cindy, here's an admittedly pretty broad comment on the issue (I don't feel up to doing a lot of research or getting technical): http://www.physiciansnews.com/law/202.html. Notice how vague the language is.

I took several medical ethics classes in college, and in my country, you can apparently refuse care pretty much any time you feel uncomfortable, so long as no one's life is in danger. Even then, you sometimes have protections, depending on the state.

If it's really true the doctor has no training for TS patients, that isn't something to ignore. Doctors do have to guess sometimes, but you want someone who can at least make a good guess if not already know what to do.

Alicia, that maybe true but the doctors statement to the patient "what makes you think I wanna see people like you" is out of place to say at least!!!
While a doctor can refuse to treat a patient for various reasons his way of conduct was absolutely unacceptable. I think if she had time, energy and resources she could take him to the court for the way she had been treated and not for the reason of his refusal of treatment.

time for some regieme change in the US, a country so backward that Iran surpasses it in terms of tolerance towards the trans community

I have no problem with the doctor not being inclined to treat someone with gender issues. It may be difficult but you can find someone else even if you it means driving 4 hours away to see a doc. I know most of you will not agree with me but I want people to have their beliefs even if they are contrary to my own. I sorta feel like if I can't respect them having their "ridiculous" opinions and beliefs; how can I expect anyone to respect mine. .

The issue I have is the doctor throwing out his morals. If he has such morals shouldn't he be a little nicer. I mean he was a jerk. He didn't have to be angry or condescending.

He could have said. "I'm sorry miss, but my religious beliefs/morals (or whatever)  make me unable to help you. I do apologize and I may be able to recommend you to another physician that may be able to help you."

I hope you find another doctor near by that will treat you. I am so sorry that guy was such a jerk to you. 

I did my research before going to a doctor in my area. I got on the gay lesbian medical association website and you can look up doctors that are lgbt friendly in all areas. I got lucky to find one that was only a few miles away from me but you might find a doctor that will be more friendly closer to you on that website. www.glma.org
Good Luck

Nowadays I call around and discuss things pretty bluntly with the receptionists. It's not always pleasant, but much better than the possibility of finding out there's a problem once I'm face to face with the doctor.

Quote from: Cindy James on November 11, 2011, 03:45:38 AM
Oh wow,

The USA is really that primitive?

Sorry I do not mean that as an insult but Geez  can a Dr can refuse medical treatment because they don't like the patient? What happens in ER? Don't like you; die bitch?

I have to apologise, I'm totally stunned.

So if you run an STD clinic and a person comes in and says I had anal sex last night with another guy, can you test me for AIDS, and your medic can refuse because of self belief??

Sorry, totally stunned, and I thought I knew the market.

Cindy

Sure they can, unfortunate enough.
Just take the case of the Transman Robert Eads, that after having recieved a diagnosis of Ovarian Cancer, was being refused treatment by two dozen(Yes, the number is right) Doctors, with the explanation that "Taking him as a patient might harm their practice".

Another Transman, Buck Angel, have also experienced this type of herassment before he found a stable Gynechologist.
Earlier, he once had to sit in the patients waiting room for two hours, until finally a nurse notified him that "She was sorry but there were no-one on the practice that wanted to see him".

So yes, it do indeed happen.

Then, ofcourse, there is also the case of the T-girl Tyra Hunter, that after a car accident was refused treatment by the arriving Paramedics after they discovered that, as they worded it on the scene; "The bitch had a dick", and literally left her on the road dying, while they instead switched the emergency-care to the other victim.

However, the bittersweet victory in the case are, that the mother of Tyra recieved 4, or of it were 5, I do not recall properly, million Dollars as compensation in court for the outrageous "treatment" of her daughter, so in atleast that case, justice prevailed.

Also worth mentioning, is that her funeral was attended by 2000 people.

Seems like a proper ass.