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Elle's tips for successfully transitioning...

Started by Mahsa Tezani, November 12, 2011, 12:41:33 AM

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Mahsa Tezani

1) Self acceptance of yourself and others: You were born XY with male parts, you are getting surgery to correct a birth defect. The world might not understand. But if you love yourself and don't care it's not a big deal. Accept the fact that some of us are sluts, others of us are nerds. It doesn't make any path right or wrong.

2) People can probably tell or know regardless of how convincing you are: If you started hormones after puberty, no matter how femme you may appear. Some people will know, it's just reality. Getting ffs, ba, or srs won't correct this...since we will still have something about us that is male or female. However, the upside is that a lot of people don't know either. Men are driven by hormones, women are driven by emotions. The small group that may know is insignificant. No matter how much we argue "well ciswomen are as tall as Bridgette Nielsen".." I've yet to see them and if I do, they aren't common.

3) Live in reality: I can't emphasis how much people stay grounded in their transitions. Even if you are living as your true self. There are people who won't understand. Instead of branding them ignorant, try to look at things from their perspective. Trans people are a relatively new thing in the 21st century and chances are a lot of them don't have bad intentions. Ignore the haters as well, people are gonna hate on you for one thing or another.

4) Hormones aren't magic... Hormones are really awesome and do stuff. But I wouldn't rely on them. The female that comes from within is much more important.

5) Be self confident. ->-bleeped-<- what I say or anyone else says. Live your life as you see fit. All of us have different levels of dsyphoria... Surround yourself with people who love you and want to help you. People who want to see you embrace your true self.

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BlonT

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Cindy

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Amy85

Nice post Mahsa, I'm glad it's been unlocked. I especially like #5  :)
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mixie

#4
I am tall.  I'm a cisgendered woman who has been compared to Brigitte Neilsen my entire life.   My name is very similar to hers as well.  I'm sure you are just trying to be blunt and out there and supportive in a real way but at the same time comments like yours have made me NOT feel like a real woman pretty much my whole life.  And I am biologically born a woman.


The thing is,  honestly I've never had a male put boundaries around what a version of beauty is I've never had men tell me I'd look better another way.  Just women.   It was my mother who told me I was too tall and that I walked around like a man.  She was a petite little thing and often told me I was mannish because i was big with broad shoulders and had small tits.   In fact she ingrained this into my mind, it was a no brainer to me that I walked around like a lumber jack because of the things she said.  It contributed to my insecurities in school, always felt like the odd one out,  voted most unique in my high school but took it as a backhanded compliment.


It wasn't until 3 years later that I was working on a play where a director chided me for being too graceful in my movements, that I ever reconsidered how I came across.  When I mentioned it to my friends they pointed out I was very dainty in how I moved and they thought my mother was crazy.

It was my sisters that told me I should grow out my hair so I'd look more normal.   And I've grown it out, you saw the pix, they are uuuugly as sin and I like myself the way I am.  I think I look cool.

I've been mistaken for a man a bunch of times in my life.   And yes, some of the things you say are true,  I am unusually tall and I don't have conventionally female looks.    But the thing is.............I was born biologically a woman.

So I'm not trying to bust your chops or tell you about your unique experience.   It's just to me,  many of the people on these kinds of threads seem to think it's because they are not "passing" or something like this,  when in reality it might just be you are tall and like any tall chick,  it can be annoying. 

Or a woman with a strong jaw,   well yes it can be annoying,  and bad hair, bad skin,   big noses etc.   

Telling me to accept the reality of my situation that most cisgendered women are not like Brigitte Neilsen and so I just need to accept that I don't fit into the normal standards of beauty is something that has been told to me by other women for years and years and years.

Not all women, but the ones who are insecure somewhere in themselves.   The empowered women usually told me I looked like a model and that I was beautiful.   I feel beautiful.   Guess what I've gained a bunch of weight too.   I still feel beautiful.

I think you are beautiful too.  So are many women I see here and women I know. 

QuotePHENOMENAL WOMAN
by Maya Angelou



Pretty women wonder where my secret lies
I'm not cute or built to suit a fashion model's size
But when I start to tell them
They think I'm telling lies.
I say,
It's in the reach of my arms
The span of my hips,
The stride of my step,
The curl of my lips.
I'm a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That's me.

I walk into a room
Just as cool as you please,
And to a man,
The fellows stand or
Fall down on their knees.
Then they swarm around me,
A hive of honey bees.
I say,
It's the fire in my eyes
And the flash of my teeth,
The swing of my waist,
And the joy in my feet.
I'm a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That's me.

Men themselves have wondered
What they see in me.
They try so much
But they can't touch
My inner mystery.
When I try to show them,
They say they still can't see.
I say
It's in the arch of my back,
The sun of my smile,
The ride of my breasts,
The grace of my style.
I'm a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That's me.

Now you understand
Just why my head's not bowed.
I don't shout or jump about
Or have to talk real loud.
When you see me passing
It ought to make you proud.
I say,
It's in the click of my heels,
The bend of my hair,
The palm of my hand,
The need of my care,
'Cause I'm a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That's me.



from And Still I Rise by Maya Angelou
copyright © 1978 by Maya Angelou.


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jesse

nice post mahsa i think im finally beginning to understand you
+1
like a knife that cuts you the wound heals but them scars those scars remain
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: mixie on November 15, 2011, 01:18:43 AM

So I'm not trying to bust your chops or tell you about your unique experience.   It's just to me,  many of the people on these kinds of threads seem to think it's because they are not "passing" or something like this,  when in reality it might just be you are tall and like any tall chick,  it can be annoying. 


Oh, I am only 5'5", curvy, and petite. I was using that as a random example.
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AbraCadabra

Thank you for unlocking Cindy,
a fair move I think and I hope it will be met with respect by the posters to make this move a good one.

And, yes --- I think Mahsa has actually come into her own here... we all experience pushes of growth, not just on our chests (speaking of MtF :-)

Thanks again,
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Axélle on November 15, 2011, 01:48:36 AM
Thank you for unlocking Cindy,
a fair move I think and I hope it will be met with respect by the posters to make this move a good one.

And, yes --- I think Mahsa has actually come into her own here... we all experience pushes of growth, not just on our chests (speaking of MtF :-)

Thanks again,
Axelle

My legal name is actually Elle. Miki, Lana, Mahsa are my performer names and the names i tell guys. But everyone calls me Miki... I know, it's confusing.

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Cindy

Dear All
I was wrong in locking a thread that I thought may degenerate. and my locking was not in anyway focussed on Elle. It was focussed on the problems we have had the last few weeks and the perceived chance that insults would be traded to no help to anyone.

I would like to highlight something here that is very important on this site.

If you have a complaint about a Mods actions report it to the Admins, Susan and or Forum Admin, may be the best choices. they are unbiased and will review Mods actions. In this case I was advised to re-open the thread. I have no problems with that. I try to do my job to make this site for all people who wish to post and to follow the rules Susan has laid forward. 

I am
Cindy James.

And  I really like it
:laugh: :-*
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AbraCadabra

* My legal name is actually Elle. *
Oh, OK like the "Elle" fashion magazine for women? :-)

My legal name is actually Axélle as in "Axélle Red", the singer :-)

Well, back to the OP then...

Thank you for sharing,
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Axélle on November 15, 2011, 03:03:49 AM
* My legal name is actually Elle. *
Oh, OK like the "Elle" fashion magazine for women? :-)

yep, like the magazine.
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mixie

Quote from: Elle Hollywood 90210 on November 15, 2011, 01:44:51 AM
Oh, I am only 5'5", curvy, and petite. I was using that as a random example.

I think you are a savvy gal who is sharing your experiences.   And I think I get you.   I enjoy reading your posts.   But I can tell you are petite from your photograph and I thought what you wrote about Brigitte Nielson was hurtful to me as a bio woman and so I imagine it is hurtful to others as well.

But I do know that it is not your intention to be hurtful.

And I know it was a random example.   But how ironic you picked the one I always get?

I don't think it is helpful to say that very tall women are not going to pass as real women no matter how much they try to convince themselves that bio women are tall too.

Because it is putting a parameter around what being a real woman is.   And don't you think it's odd that you picked something that doesn't apply to you? 

Anyway I enjoy our conversations and I thank you for giving me a place to sort of vent about my own issues about not being "womanly" enough.

:angel:
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: mixie on November 15, 2011, 07:26:16 AM
I think you are a savvy gal who is sharing your experiences.   And I think I get you.   I enjoy reading your posts.   But I can tell you are petite from your photograph and I thought what you wrote about Brigitte Nielson was hurtful to me as a bio woman and so I imagine it is hurtful to others as well.

But I do know that it is not your intention to be hurtful.

And I know it was a random example.   But how ironic you picked the one I always get?

I don't think it is helpful to say that very tall women are not going to pass as real women no matter how much they try to convince themselves that bio women are tall too.

Because it is putting a parameter around what being a real woman is.   And don't you think it's odd that you picked something that doesn't apply to you? 

Anyway I enjoy our conversations and I thank you for giving me a place to sort of vent about my own issues about not being "womanly" enough.

:angel:

Sorry

Wasn't my intention. I needed a random example and I picked her.
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stldrmgrl

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