EXPERT VIEWS - Transgender rights around the world

16 Nov 2011 10:56
By Rebekah Curtis

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LONDON (TrustLaw) – More than 100 transgender people murdered worldwide this year will be among those commemorated during Sunday's international Transgender Day of Remembrance (TDOR).

Here activists and members of the transgender community, from around the world, talk to TrustLaw about the state of transgender rights today.

Liesl Theron, South Africa
Theron is executive director of transgender rights organisation Gender DynamiX, Cape Town

What are your impressions of transgender rights globally?
Transgender people face the worst challenges, regardless of which country they are coming from or situated in. The type of challenges might vary from country to country due to the political and social environment in that country, but usually trans people are on the fringes of society, and the most marginalised. 

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Transgenders murdered as world resists change

16 Nov 2011 12:18
By Rebekah Curtis

http://www.trust.org/trustlaw/news/transgenders-murdered-as-world-resists-change

LONDON (TrustLaw) – Ever since she can remember, Katherine Cummings knew she had been born into the wrong body.

"I knew I was transgendered as far back as memories go," said the 76-year old, formerly called John, who works at Australia's Gender Centre for people with gender issues. "Four years of age or so."

Since her 1930s childhood, the lives of transgender people have improved dramatically in many countries. But discrimination remains widespread. Hundreds of transgender people are killed every year and many live in constant fear of attack.

Quote from: Jen61 on November 17, 2011, 06:45:27 PM
I wonder who many of those deaths were due to a man dicovering a  "trap"

Why do you think it matters?  Do you think that the failure to disclose is a behavior that deserves a death penalty, that somehow some of the poor trans people whose lives were cut short by violence somehow deserved it?

I sure hope not.

Quotesolely pick up and decive a male into having sex without you dislcossing you trans status

I doubt this is EVER the case.

Quote from: Jen61 on November 20, 2011, 04:35:26 PM
Nobody deserves to die !

My point is that if you as an adult go to a bar to solely pick up and decive a male into having sex without you dislcossing you trans status, do not be so surpriesed if somebody bash your skull.

I do not care what mature transpeople do, but I think is reprehensible to encourage or glorify illegal or immoral behaviour to confused and impresionable youth.  I was in a cis-bar in detroit a number of years when this trans was flittirn with a tipssie dude' when his pals told him he was flitring with a "->-bleeped-<-," the dude flew of the handle and started to trow bottles at the "->-bleeped-<-." Fortunately nobody was hurt. When I left the dude was outside the bar all enraged.

I am responding to your post becaouse your question is valid, and you did not know where I was coming from. I know that sombody is going to come and say that it is our right to go "trapping" without expeting a violent reaction.

Jen61

So being trans is akin to having AIDS, eh? We have to disclose our trans status to everyone we ever jump in the sack with, regardless of whether the relationship is serious or not. We have a responsibility to label ourselves and render ourselves vulnerable to scorn, and if we don't we're being deceitful. Should a transwoman ever go barhopping to get laid, as so many cis-women do, at some point before the deed gets to being done she has to say "Oh, by the way, I'm a transsexual. Hope that's okay."

Excuse me if I'm not impressed.

No trans-bashing is deserved or appropriate, just like no rape is deserved or appropriate. It doesn't matter what the victim was doing before or during the crime.

Quote from: Felix on November 25, 2011, 03:55:12 PM
No trans-bashing is deserved or appropriate, just like no rape is deserved or appropriate. It doesn't matter what the victim was doing before or during the crime.

I don't think that's the point that was being made. I think what Jen is saying is that transpeople shouldn't be shocked when met with violence if they cruise the bars for sex without an "I'm a transsexual" placard around their necks.

QuoteI think is reprehensible to encourage or glorify illegal or immoral behaviour to confused and impresionable youth.

I've heard this before, but then it was about "gay recruitment".

It is not illegal nor immoral to meet adults for sex in bars without disclosing your life story, nor do people old enough to drink and pick up women in bars constitute "impresionable youth" (sic).

Quote from: Sailor_Saturn on November 26, 2011, 05:29:48 PM
I don't think that's the point that was being made. I think what Jen is saying is that transpeople shouldn't be shocked when met with violence if they cruise the bars for sex without an "I'm a transsexual" placard around their necks.

I wasn't responding to Jen, I don't think. It was just the thought that kept my head from being able to grapple with caring about the circumstances of the crimes.

There is a difference between trying to glass someone, and saying "f*** off then!"  A crime is a crime.

Quote from: justmeinoz on November 29, 2011, 03:44:34 AM
There is a difference between trying to glass someone, and saying "f*** off then!"  A crime is a crime.

I feel like a 5 year old who just did a headstand after figuring out what you just said.
http://www.wordwizard.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20681

Tadaa!!