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Lactation

Started by Dale, November 25, 2011, 10:36:46 PM

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Dale

I have been lactating for quite awhile now and love it. I really helps makes me more a women.

What are your experiences?
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Elsa.G

uh, i havent experienced that
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stldrmgrl

I cannot say that is something I have yet experienced.
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BrokenCode

Quote from: Dale on November 25, 2011, 10:36:46 PM
I have been lactating for quite awhile now and love it. I really helps makes me more a women.

What are your experiences?

I've experienced something similarly in the beginning of growth. It was more of like the milk ducts were priming or something. But it went away after a few months.

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Forever21Chic

Quote from: Dale on November 25, 2011, 10:36:46 PM
I have been lactating for quite awhile now and love it. I really helps makes me more a women.

What are your experiences?

  Are you on progesterone as well as estrogen? Lactation is common if your on progesterone due to your body thinking your pregnant lol. After a few months on P i started noticing my shirt getting wet around the area my nipple should be and when i squeezed them a yellowish white liquid came out.

  I actually found this to be quite annoying and told my endo about it. He adjusted my dosage of P so it's doesn't happen as much.
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envie

Hmmm, I don't want to spread a great scare but lactation is something that should be rather looked at closely.
My endo mentioned something about it at my first appointment so i don't remember the details but she was talking about possibility of
too high prolactin levels in the pituitary gland of the Hypothalamus in the brain and that an x-ray should be taken to make sure you don't have
something growing on the gland that is not suppose to be there.
Also from what I've read so far E or T suppresses the prolactin production in new mothers sometimes which in turn results in no milk production.
So, for the prolactin production the E or T levels must be low. For you this could mean you are too low on E.
Please share if you have any more or more accurate info about this situation than I have. if it were happening to me I'd be calling my doc immediately.
I sure hope all is OK!
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V M

I've lactated a little a couple of times over the past couple years, but not very much... Not sure why either
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Lily

During my first week of hrt I noticed a small stain on my shirt over my left nipple, but since then I haven't had anything.
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BrokenCode

Just for curiosity sake. If you used a breast pump for a long period of time, would you start producing milk. Does the body start thinking it needs to. Kind of like supply and demand. lol.
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V M

Quote from: BrokenCode on November 26, 2011, 02:48:09 PM
Just for curiosity sake. If you used a breast pump for a long period of time, would you start producing milk. Does the body start thinking it needs to. Kind of like supply and demand. lol.

I haven't tried it, but have heard of people doing that  :)  We actually had a member who made a vid. of her squirting her milk  :laugh:  anyway, it is possible
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Forever21Chic

Quote from: BrokenCode on November 26, 2011, 02:48:09 PM
Just for curiosity sake. If you used a breast pump for a long period of time, would you start producing milk. Does the body start thinking it needs to. Kind of like supply and demand. lol.


  Umm why would you what to?  :laugh:
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BrokenCode

Quote from: Rukia87xo on November 26, 2011, 03:11:07 PM

  Umm why would you what to?  :laugh:

Haha, I was just curious. I thought I heard a dad doing this a long time ago. But wasn't sure if that was a hoax.

Funny Hugs :)
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MeghanAndrews

I don't get the whole lactation-makes-me-feel-like-a-woman thing. It's really gross and smells weird. It isn't happening because we're pregnant, it's happening because our hormones are in flux or too high. You need to make sure you are getting regular labs by your medical provider and that they are checking your prolactin levels and other levels. If you get headaches and other side effects, you might have a pituitary problem that needs to be checked out too. You might not want to "milk" yourself either, it could continue to drive levels up and cause other issues. Just be aware of these things :)
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envie

I already mentioned the same thing but no reaction.
I guess some people would rather walk around with a brain tumor  and live their fantasy.
Oh well :-\
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Cindy Stephens

Sorry envie,  but if you hear hooves running (at least here in the US) you should be thinking horses, not zebras.  Lactation seems to be pretty common among those taking progesterone.  There are other threads on this board dealing with the same subject. I take it to increase breast size, which it does by increasing the size and number of milk glands.  At least for those of us who have success.  Now, I inject progesterone monthly.  I sometimes start lactating towards the end of the month as my progesterone levels decrease.  I believe it happens to some women also as they cycle.  I don't think it "smells" nor do I find it "gross", but I'm not a very squeamish person.  I do get a bit of staining though.   I just accept that it is part of the physical transition, one accepted by those women who experience it. If you do a google on the subject you will find that the highly regarded GRS surgeon Christine Mcginn, (herself a MTF) produces milk and breastfeeds her children.   Perhaps you should have more facts before suggesting someone has a brain tumor, though it couldn't hurt to mention it at the next meeting with her endo.  Please note, I'm not an MD, listen to me at your own risk.
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pebbles

I did alittle early on when I was trying to get my estrogen dosage right. I found it slightly surreal (my body is making... food... ) but mostly gross because I'm just not used to the idea of fluid coming out of there. And annoying because it would happen when stupid babies wouldn't stop crying. Or when I was out jogging.

In my case I know why I happened to me my Prolactin levels were elevated. such an abrupt increase in Estrogen induced it as a pesudo-pregnancy symptom....

it became a cause of concern when I got migranes aswell... as both of those signs are indictative of pituitary gland swelling caused by adverse metabolism of estrogen. A course of mironized progesterone for 2 weeks stopped the lactation and corrected the problem with me and it hasn't happened again.
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envie

@ Cindy Stephens
I mentioned in my earlier post that I don't recall the details about the warning that my endo  mentioned to me but I know she mentioned pituitary gland swelling in combination with lactation is something that needs to looked at and make sure it is not cancerous. I also asked to please give more information and correct me if I am wrong and said I don't want to spread great scare but this is what I've heard. So I actually appreciate you sharing your experience!
With my second post I was just trying to get people's attention as everyone seemed to be just indulging in lactation without second thought.
As few other ladies have already stated there is at least a good reason to mention this to her endo. Pebbles even went on to say how she got the problem fixed.
All I wanted is to bring attention to the safety. And if everything is determined to be cool then lactate people as much as you want.

You can even pump yourself and donate the breast milk to the breast milk bank. I'm not kidding there are BM banks all around and in need for donors as there are babies who need it urgently.
Colostrum(the first milk) is worth gold for the newly born and some mothers don't have it! So if you have it you may make the best out of it. Just saying, I got nothing against lactation other wise.
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Bishounen

Quote from: Rukia87xo on November 26, 2011, 03:11:07 PM

  Umm why would you what to?  :laugh:

Some T-chicks use breastpumps to stimulate the nipplegrowth during their transition, so I guess that's what was hinted about.

I can see the point if the nipples are extremely small and the transitioner are bothered by it if they haven't grown suffiecently during hormone treatment, although I would say that apart from that, it is perhaps otherwise not a good idea, as overusing it could instead give the nipples a "Sucked out" look in a similar way as a natal female may have that have intensily breastfed a child, which isn't very nice looking at all.

Better moderately sized smooth and pouty nipples than worn out nipples.


By the way, that guy the other member heard about using a breastpump, was probably one of the guys that was involved in a feministic experiment to try to make Cis-males to produce milk by having themselves constantly stimulating their breasts with breastpumps, so that they could give their babies suckle just like the mothers.
Interesting experiment indeed but also somewhat ridiculous. ::)

Quote from: MeghanAndrews on November 27, 2011, 12:08:14 AM
I don't get the whole lactation-makes-me-feel-like-a-woman thing. It's really gross and smells weird. It isn't happening because we're pregnant, it's happening because our hormones are in flux or too high. You need to make sure you are getting regular labs by your medical provider and that they are checking your prolactin levels and other levels. If you get headaches and other side effects, you might have a pituitary problem that needs to be checked out too. You might not want to "milk" yourself either, it could continue to drive levels up and cause other issues. Just be aware of these things :)

True, it doesn't happen in MTF's because they are pregnant but because the body thinks that it is, because of the hormones.

Which reminds me of a friend of mine that started lactating large amounts of white,thick milk, which she also showed me by "milking" her breasts in front of me, something she claimed occured when she started anti-androgenes, although I do suspect that it was rather because of the type of female hormones that she took.

Another trans I knew, didn't have any lactation but wanted it for a sexual thrill. I think it was because of her work as a stripper

Anyway, if a MTF's is on hormones and starts lactating, it is totally harmless. The only downsides to it is if the person are bothered by it, such as having no control over when the lactation occurs, which was the case for an older MTF that had a constant lactation and could stand talking to people when all of the sudden her blouse grew wet, and she said; "Oh there goes the milk again!". :laugh:

As said, it's nothing dangerous and nothing to do with braintumors, provided that the person experiencing it is MTF and on female hormones- It may just be inconvenient if unwanted.

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Dale

Quote from: envie on November 26, 2011, 12:15:15 AM
Hmmm, I don't want to spread a great scare but lactation is something that should be rather looked at closely.
My endo mentioned something about it at my first appointment so i don't remember the details but she was talking about possibility of
too high prolactin levels in the pituitary gland of the Hypothalamus in the brain and that an x-ray should be taken to make sure you don't have
something growing on the gland that is not suppose to be there.
Also from what I've read so far E or T suppresses the prolactin production in new mothers sometimes which in turn results in no milk production.
So, for the prolactin production the E or T levels must be low. For you this could mean you are too low on E.
Please share if you have any more or more accurate info about this situation than I have. if it were happening to me I'd be calling my doc immediately.
I sure hope all is OK!

My daughter breastfed her two daughters for a total of five years. So one can lactate for awhile without harm. I am on E & P and motilium. I pump when I can. This is my 3rd lactating period. Like 3 pregnancies. My Dr keeps a close watch on the blood work
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Dale

Quote from: BrokenCode on November 26, 2011, 02:48:09 PM
Just for curiosity sake. If you used a breast pump for a long period of time, would you start producing milk. Does the body start thinking it needs to. Kind of like supply and demand. lol.

Unless you use meds just pumping is a long way to get there. Once the milk comes in yes its a supply and demand thing
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