Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on November 27, 2011, 09:55:29 AM
U.s governement desecreted the whole covering story. If what they showed was indeed a weather baloon, what crashed was a test plane, the futuristic alluminium made Sr71. End of the story.

I have never believed the Balloon-stuff, regardless of what it was that crashed, simply because it was never actually proven as being one, plus, the "explanations" didn't make sense at all and also rudely brushed off a bunch of direct witnesses.

Don't really care though about what actually crashed, whether it was Aliens, fairhaired Nazis or a bunch of testmonkeys that were crappy pilots.

Nice!!!!!!

Quote from: Amazon D on November 27, 2011, 05:57:00 AM
ahhh why are only the moderators told who is changing their names because its not right so many waste their time over such when the moderators know who the IP is..

I can check IPs, but that doesn't mean I know the person's original username. Name changes don't seem to be recorded in any particular forum or list. So I was as much in the dark as you were.

usually when it's a thread against America, I can tell pretty quickly who it is...no matter how many times she changes her name

Quote from: Annah on November 27, 2011, 12:55:37 PM
usually when it's a thread against America, I can tell pretty quickly who it is...no matter how many times she changes her name

Good point Annah! And Amazon D, don't know what your comment was about, but "Happy Girl" posted that she was changing her name and everything posted with POH in the post still stands.

And...it means somethings wrong....

Point well made, SandraJane. Hugs, Tracey

Quote from: tekla on November 26, 2011, 05:10:33 PM
Wehrner became member of the Schuts Staffel as Sturmbahnfurher purely to get funding for his research.
No excuse.

Yes, Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun was a Sturmbannführer (equivalent to Major) in the Schutzstaffel (SS).

In the old Soviet Union they used to say: 'Life in Soviet Union is a workers' paradise, only someone mentally ill would dispute this!'    I am starting to know how Soviet dissents likely the physicist Andrei Sakarov the 1975 Nobel Peace laureate felt.    Dr Sakarov criticised USSR foreign and domestic policy, this was a clear sign of his lunacy said the Politburo, and Pravda loyally and dutifully informed the people: 'Comrades, Comrade Dr Sakarov is mentally deranged, please pay no attention to his ramblings.   The wicked, decadent West is shamelessly encouraging this poor man's ravings by awarding him a Nobel Prize.  Comrades, behold the lengths the bloated, bourgeois  West will go to to undermine the glorious Workers' paradise that is the USSR!    Comrades please be assured that comrade Sakarov will receive the very best treatment in our glorious psychiatric system.'

As for people who keep saying 'but these things were debunked years ago', err, no they weren't.   I saw a programme over here that sought to explain the American flag waving, twisting and fluttering, when there is no atmosphere on the moon.   What they did was spread sand on the floor in the experiment - to simulate moondust! - then they assured the viewers that ALL windows and doors were closed.   In this 'experiment' the flag moved and swayed, and the presenters said 'look the flag is moving and ALL doors and windows are shut!  There that finally explains how the flag moved, swayed, waved and fluttered on the moon'.   AND people at home said 'yeah, explain that away you doubting Moon loons?!'



P.S.  I clearly have a big ego because I just completely assumed that people were (1) aware of my presence at Susans.  (2) Following my threads and would see that I have changed my username, which isn't against the rules btw.

The point remains, you cannot convince anybody that the moon landings by American Astrounants did not happen.

They did !

Quote from: Venus-Castina on November 27, 2011, 09:13:54 PM
I don't really see how it is different from Charles Darwin using the Royal Navy's resources to conduct his research.

You are not seriously comparing the Royal Navy with the SS are you?

Quote from: Happy Girl! on November 27, 2011, 09:26:02 PM
You are not seriously comparing the Royal Navy with the SS are you?

Interesting. You enjoy bashing America but if someone says something about England, Scotland, United Kingdom, et al (even if you misinterpreted it) you get defensive.

Quote from: Annah on November 27, 2011, 09:30:13 PM
Interesting. You enjoy bashing America but if someone says something about England (even if you misinterpreted it) you get defensive.

Sorry Annah, Happy Girl is a "SCOT", which means she lives in SCOTLAND! Now if ya say she's ENGLISH...probably piss her off!


B->-bleeped-<-ipes Scotland the Brave

..as for you and I Annah...we live here...




Elvis Presley America the Beautiful

The SS was dedicated to the genocide of Jews, homosexuals, socialists, communists, the Roma and Sinti, physically-handicapped, people mentally-handicapped people, the deaf, the chronic alcoholic, those with hereditary diseases, and all 'enemies of the National Socialist state'.   The RN is dedicated to the protection of Great Britain and the NATO countries.

Before i quit this disturbing conversation. Where one pretends to be the new Galileo saying things thirty years old, and yet  explained both by scientific research and government secrets disclosed.
I want to add few points.
1) the technology of moon landing derives from nazi's rockets, indeed the advance brought by u.s.a and urss to german rocket propulsion led to going out of earth atmosphere and moon landing.
2) the technology was not that complicate. It is just matter of power and weight. Russia indeed still use rockets 30 years old and so usa does.
3) landing on the moon is not that hard, being the moon atmosphereless, the atmosphere is important just in flight, without it there are a lot of less troubles.
4) the real problem was never the technology but the safety of these high power machines.
5) all the suspicions about moon landing footage have been explained by usa representants admitting some photos were altered for propaganda
6) search a job, another usefoul occupation, there is no conspiracy. Sometimes government lie or bend reality, but evn they tend to be without fantasy in these things.
7) maybe you know it yet. Feeling different brings a lot of problem. When you are child you feel hated, not accepted, these things escavate in your oul an irrational fear that goes out as paranoia. But it's just fear. Beeing different is not so easy.

this disturbing conversation

to say the least...

Quote from: Happy Girl! on November 27, 2011, 04:58:27 PM
... As for people who keep saying 'but these things were debunked years ago', err, no they weren't.   I saw a programme over here that sought to explain the American flag waving, twisting and fluttering, when there is no atmosphere on the moon.   What they did was spread sand on the floor in the experiment - to simulate moondust! - then they assured the viewers that ALL windows and doors were closed.   In this 'experiment' the flag moved and swayed, and the presenters said 'look the flag is moving and ALL doors and windows are shut!  There that finally explains how the flag moved, swayed, waved and fluttered on the moon'.   AND people at home said 'yeah, explain that away you doubting Moon loons?!'

It's been tested in a complete vacuum, to accurately debunk that waving flag argument. Here's a fun little mythbuster video as one example!

Quote from: cynthialee on November 28, 2011, 08:45:43 AM
I will!!!!!

The Royal Navy has centuries of blood on their hands, all to make Englishmen the masters of the all they can be. The SS only got a couple of decades in before they were stoped......
The English still enjoy mastery of the globe in many places.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_war_crimes

http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/globalisation/visions_reflections/british_empire

The Royal Navy like all military personnel was but executing orders,not making policies. The links you provided does not include any example of "atrocities" perpetrated by the Royal Navy personal. I am sure a few events may had happen, like in any army, but overall the Royal Navy has always conducted according to the rules of engagement.

The SS was not a part of the German military but rather a paramilitary group of extremist, the comparison with the Royal Navy is unfair and unwarranted.

No country, nation, or ethic group is free of having shed some "Innocent" blood, but there is quiet a difference between excesses of war and bl antant genocide.

As a matter of fact the British Empire or England, or more specifically the Royal Navy has never been implicated in any genocide in modern times http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll

Please note that that the genocide of the American Natives was perpetrated by almost all European powers, including the Brits, but that was 500 years ago.

Doesn't matter if it was 5 years ago or 500.
The people of the UK have a standard of living directly atributable to atrocities comited by the Empire.

Quote from: cynthialee on November 28, 2011, 09:42:30 AM
Doesn't matter if it was 5 years ago or 500.
The people of the UK have a standard of living directly attributable to atrocities committed by the Empire.

Wow ! What an epiphany ! So since we all at some point in our past have had a relative who oppressed somebody, then following your logic, then it it is like nobody alive is free of sin.

Um! maybe the christian are right and that is our original sin ! What to do ? Wait, I just found Jesus, and accepted him as my savior, I am free from any sin !

So, on behave of her Majesty the Queen of England I accept Jesus as the savior of the Royal Navy, and as such the Royal Navy is here absolve of any sins.

Anybody wants to do that for the SS germans ?

Gee, that was a close one Cynthia !