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America - An Evil Empire?

Started by Princess of Hearts, November 09, 2011, 06:34:14 PM

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Princess of Hearts

It is a very middle class thing to believe that the government loves you and seeks at all times to do you good.   The working and upper class know the truth about government.  As most Americans consider themselves to be middle-class that might explain why so many are so unwilling to see the truth.   The middle classes have been seduced by the government and as a consequence they want to be taken care of by local and central government.   Deep down in the heart of a middle class person there is a belief that government will look after you, but in return you must always support the institution of government and do whatever it tells you and believe whatever it tells you to believe.



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Greorge

America is becoming the 'Evil Empire that we have been fighting' for years
Good and evil doesn't have a grey zone.  Killing and stealing is bad.  Violence is never "good" or necessary unless it is used to defend against killers and thieves. Indeed, that is the morality behind the "just war" principle as defined by international laws and treaties.

Yet, this simple concept of right and wrong gets muddled by differing ideas about religion, patriotism, economics and many other divisions.  The "just war" rule has crumbled under the ambitions of empires throughout history.  The American-led Anglo Saxon empire is no different.

This empire has been brutally conquering and colonizing territory since the fall of Rome.  However, it has only gained an American face in the last century.  The United States quickly emerged as the world's "superpower" primarily through its economic might.  For some time, many believed the U.S. to be a shining example of economic freedom for other nations to emulate.  Indeed, America was eager to promote "economic freedom" globally to open new markets for U.S.-based corporations.

When foreign leaders refused to allow these corporate interests into their country, those leaders were replaced through a variety of covert actions.  The form of government that would be installed did not matter to the empire makers so long as the corporate interests were served.  In most cases these nations simply surrendered to the seemingly unlimited power of the almighty dollar, thus camouflaging the traditional method of forceful empire building.


However, some nations, especially in the last two decades, remained stubborn and have refused to alter their banking systems while also shunning Western companies.  Despite the empire's best efforts to diplomatically bribe or sanction them into submission, they ultimately required an iron military fist to force their compliance.  Until recently, military action remained the last resort.  But now, preemptive military action seems to have become the preferred, and perhaps necessary, method to conquer the last resource-rich nations out of their grasp.

The empire's populations cheered this strategy out of fear of being attacked by these rogue nations who never attacked or even threatened to attack them.  In the fog of fear, killing and stealing became acceptable. In fact, detention without charges and even torture became acceptable in the former capital of freedom. America has determined that the means justifies the end -- which is more power.

As with all empires, these "means" have become increasingly violent and destructive in the face of resistance.  Yet, only a few more dominoes are left to knock over for America to complete a plan set in motion well before they were one of the colonies.  That is unless, of course, other world powers break ranks and attempt to stop the conquerors, which could lead to a large scale conflict.

Regardless, when the dust settles and moral history is written, America and her Western cohorts will likely be viewed as the most brutal empire in history.  Here are ten reasons why this is already the case:


Rumsfeld with Saddam Hussein 1983
1. Support of Dictators: For all the happy talk of spreading Democracy and protecting human rights, the empire has repeatedly not only supported dictators, but in many cases overthrew popularly elected leaders and replaced them with puppet tyrants.  Examples range from secretly funding the Nazis, to installing the Shah in Iran, Pinochet in Chile, supporting Musharraf in Pakistan, and their everlasting love affair with the brutal Saudi royal family, to name a few.  Actions speak louder than words to those who can navigate the storm of propaganda with a moral compass set to recognize good from evil.  Dictators and freedom cannot coexist.

2. Preemptive Wars of Aggression:  It could be said that all wars are preemptive in nature because so many entities benefit from war.  Yet, even before America's latest crusades, they covertly and surgically attacked countries that never threatened them.  This allowed them to maintain the moral high road in the public's eye while constructing the foundation of their empire.  That was until the Bush Doctrine; the use of preemptive military action to confront possible threats was unofficially adopted to be the new foreign policy for combating terror.  Since then, America has become the violent aggressors, having officially invaded two countries -- Afghanistan and Iraq -- without legitimate provocation.  Violent aggressors have always been judged by history as evil. But it gets worse....



3. Torture: Torture has never been acceptable by those promoting a high moral standing in the global community.  Nazis and Japanese soldiers were convicted and executed for engaging in the exact same torture techniques that America has redefined as 'enhanced interrogation'.  "I was just following orders," was not a justifiable excuse for such inhumane behavior, much like it wasn't a good enough defense for the low-ranking patsies who took the heat for the sinister Abu Ghraib torture scandal even though their actions wereapproved at the highest levels.  Can state-sanctioned torture of prisoners held without charges ever be viewed as anything less than brutal?



4. Suppression of Dissent:  All tyrannical regimes throughout history have suppressed homeland dissent.  As government oppression grows bolder at home and abroad, more citizens will naturally express outrage, resulting in even more oppressive controls.  This is happening in the United States through the all-seeing eye of the Department of Homeland Security with warrantless spying, arbitrary watch lists, citizen spy campaigns, and TSA molestation to travel anywhere.  Additionally, in an attempt to squash free speech, they arbitrarily seize websites and violently confront peaceful protesters.  Unfortunately, as awareness of the topics in this very article expands, the U.S. will likely become even bolder in their pursuit of stifling dissent.  In other words, the worst is yet to come, and history will judge the U.S. as not quite the beacon of freedom they have pretended to be.

5. Elimination of Habeas Corpus:  Say goodbye to the notion of being innocent until proven guilty, the right to face charges and your accuser, and the right to a free and fair trial.  Habeas corpus, considered the only humane path to "which a prisoner can be released from unlawful detention," has been eliminated for those vaguely labeled 'enemy combatants' of the empire.  As Guantanamo prisoners rot under such pretenses, prominent lawmakers in the empire propose the exact same lack of rights for American citizens if they're labeled an 'enemy belligerent'.  Similar to the Spanish Inquisition, now you're guilty until you're tortured to admit your guilt.  Can it get more evil? Why yes, it can. Read on.



6. Assassinating Citizens:  That's right.  No judge, no jury, no conviction; just straight to execution. America has set another precedent in their tyrannical march toward empire when they openly assassinated an American citizen and government patsy, Anwar al-Awlaki, and his teenage son on the suspicion of terrorism.  Paul Craig Roberts laments "Now the US government not only can seize a US citizen and confine him in prison for the rest of his life without ever presenting evidence and obtaining a conviction, but also can have him shot down in the street or blown up by a drone."  Isn't this the reason America claims to be knocking off dictators around the world -- the deliberate killing of their own citizens?

But Awlaki was a bad apple because the intelligence community said so. What's most telling that America will continue this wickedness is that almost every US lawmaker turned a blind eye to the grotesque violation of Constitutional rights. Only Ron Paul said that assassinating an American citizen without charges is nothing less than an "impeachable offense".  Too bad most of the country cheered the Awlaki killing as a "victory" in the war on terror, indicating that it is now an acceptable tactic.  Americans beware: you may be moved from a secret watch list to a secret kill list in this brutal empire.



7. Unauthorized Drone Wars: Unprovoked wars without authorization, accountability, or independent oversight only seem to be escalating; and with little resistance. The US Congress no longer votes to "declare war".  They simply give the Commander in Chief broad "authorization" to use force against specific nations. However, even that is not broad enough in the rapid pursuit of empire.  Now, joystick warriors directed by the CIA and Pentagon have targeted at least three countries with "unauthorized" military strikes; Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia.  Even worse, they waged a full-scale war for regime change and resource plundering in Libya without any authority inside the United States.  Under the NATO flag, which is 75% funded by the U.S., they flew over 9200 strike sorties in Libya to illegally topple Gaddafi.  Drunk with success, the bloodthirsty empire marches on to their next preemptive targets, Syria and Iran.  Quick morality check: unprovoked killing and stealing as a first resort is still wrong, right?

8. Use of Weapons of Mass Destruction: How ironic that the world's policeman for weapons of mass destruction is the only one to use them on a mass scale.  The United States is on record using chemical, biological and even nuclear weapons.  From the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII, to Monsanto's Agent Orange in Vietnam, to the depleted uranium used in Afghanistan and Iraq, America only condemns itself when speaking about the evils of WMDs. However, killers don't appear to care how the killing is accomplished, so long as it achieves their goals.  The real firecrackers will likely be brought out in a confrontation with Iran, or if China and Russia are lured into the conflict.  It won't really matter much what history says if the use of WMD escalates by either side, but the aggressors should rightly be blamed for the ensuing scorched earth, while the defenders against killers and thieves should be viewed as righteous.

9. World's Largest Drug Dealer:  The American empire is the largest drug dealer in the world?  Say it isn't so. Well, in addition to forcing legal drugs and genetically modified organisms on nations, usually under the cover of foreign aid, America also leads in the illegal drug trade.  In fact, many researchers reveal that the war on drugs is only utilized to control and monopolize the illicit drug trade.  The US government has been caught multiple times shipping in cocaine, colluding with certain cartels to control the industry, and now openly protects and transports opium from Afghanistan.  In fact, Global Research points out that in 2001, "according to UN figures, opium production had fallen to 185 tons. Immediately following the October 2001 US led invasion, production increased dramatically, regaining its historical levels."  This month, the U.N. announcedthat Afghanistan now provides 93% of the world's opium production; up 61% compared to 2010 to a whopping 5800 tonnes.  Although the empire tries to keep it secret, they can't hide the hypocrisy forever.


10. World Reserve Currency Prison: Although using Weapons of Mass Debt is a non-violent form of expanding the empire, it's perhaps the most brutal and effective form of control.  Requiring foreign nations to purchase oil and other imported commodities with US dollars wields immense power.  Because all nations must acquire dollars to purchase critical resources, they quickly become indebted to the US Federal Reserve, their affiliate central banks, and the IMF.  Before long, the entire world is colonized by debt.  It seems that only the nations that don't need or refuse credit from Western banking institutions are the ones in danger of facing the wrath of the imperial war machine. Incidentally, most oil-rich nations in the Middle East have outlawed usury (lending money with interest), making them impossible to conquer diplomatically through debt.  Controlling the world reserve currency means controlling the tap of life itself, which is a dangerous weapon in the hands of an aggressive empire.  Debt is the ultimate WMD the empire uses to enslave the world, which leaves dissidents with two clear choices: slavery or death.

Although this empire is infinitely more powerful than Rome was, it will likely suffer the same fate.  For every negative action the empire commits, there's an equal and opposite good reaction. And the goodness of humanity will always defeat tyranny when it goes too far.  However, an empire with so much to lose will go down swinging and slinging every weapon in its arsenal, thus putting the final stamp on their status as most brutal empire in history.
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AbraCadabra

Funny... under R. Regan it was the USSR that was the "Evil Empire"

Seems you (US) are getting it right back?

US moralist, (good & evil), exceptionalist (we are the exception to the rest of the world), idealist (we will do it better then the rest) ... has finally caught up with the US.

The moralist, exceptionalist, idealist mind-set is a dangerous one - it assumes coming from a place of 'perfection' --- and... hold on a second... who is actually perfect?! The US government? Oh really?

"Balance of Power" and "Real Politik" is finally going to come even to the US... methinks.

Thoughts from the blue chair,
Axelle
PS: why do I keep thinking of the Catholic church... good & evil, moralist, idealist, exeptionalist, PERFECTIONIST...
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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RebeccaFog


An evil empire and a hideous bully.
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AbraCadabra

Oh, haven't we noticed how to bully seems so OK - in the name of "moral superiority"?

Happens all the time, - welcome to "bible-belt-thinking".

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Julie Marie

If you want to know why, follow the money.
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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fionabell

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spacial

America isn't an evil empire.

It is a largely isolated society, isolated by geography, history and its culture. It is continually being agitated with stories that to the rest of the world are preposterus, yet it can somehow believe. Then, egged on by the likes of the UK, Australia and others, seems more than willing to send its own kids, paid for out of its own pockets, to fight and die in far away lands for causes they don't understand and which don't matter to them at all.

America is a perfect example of collective insanity. A notion that is often dismissed by psychologists but which social observers understand well. An indication of how serious this is is that any disagreement from the standard view is met with automatic rebuff, generally accusing the questioner of being in league with the enemy. During the Communist era, for example, any disagreement was a sign of being a communist. Even now, few dare even indicate some of the more obvious flaws in 9-11 and the aftermath.

It's so utterly sad. Americans are, generally, some of the most generous, welcoming people anywhere. Yet they seem more than ready to accept almost any postulate, without question, and send yet more sons to die overseas.

The real problems will start when the American people eventually wake up and realise they've been suckered so badly.

The history books of the future are going to be an absolute screem. I can just imagine some satirical headline of 200 years from now. 'Throw another American boy on the fire'.
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cynthialee

The level of modern technology has given the tyrant of today a level of power unrivaled in the history of man.

There will be no liberation from this Empire. It is the last Empire on earth. It will eventually encompase the entire globe. Disidents will be rounded up and silenced slowly carefully and it will not raise many eyebrows.

200 years from now your grandchildrens grandchildren will live under a total dictatorship. Every facet of their lives will be preplaned by the powers that be. Down to free time. Which will be scarce.
People will not even know or believe that they do not have freedom. They will be druged and controled with propaganda. History will be controled and access to the real history of man (how the Empire became the Global hegemony) will be controled and sanitized.

Even the highest levels of the pyramid will have no freedom or control. Their actions and likely even their very thoughts will be monitored by whatever passes for police.
Every human in the future will be pre planed. Birth by acident will not ever happen. Chances are even so grim that Brave New World eugenics seem likely.


As it stands, the people couldn't stop the powers that be even if there was a popular revolution. The fighters will be quashed in a trice. You can not fight a tank or 'puff the magic dragon' with your pappies shot gun. Even if you had every redneck in the country with a rifle standing to fight there is no way to win. If it even looks like the powers that be are going to go down they WILL resort to nuclear tactics.
I have played enough war game simulations (most of my life) to know what happens when men have the ultimate power. They will use the bomb if things turn against them. This is simple human nature and the way power reacts to being deposed.

Sorry to be so grim.
Enjoy what time you have left with what few freedoms you have. The future generations will never know freedom again.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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tekla

People will not even know or believe care that they do not have freedom, so long as they are told they have security. They will be druged and controlled via media and the best part is we don't even have to force them, they choose to do it themselves. 

FIFY


And we're out of cheep energy, and sooner rather than later.  That's what brings the Empire down.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Julie Marie

Quote from: tekla on November 30, 2011, 09:53:22 AM
And we're out of cheep energy, and sooner rather than later.  That's what brings the Empire down.

That and the infrastructure failing, which it already is.  We need the tax money to give big tax breaks to heavy political donors and infrastructure is one of the necessities that got funding cuts.

So how long does history show an empire usually lasts?
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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tekla

500 years max, and that was in the Ancient Regime when power was a bit easier to hold on to.

Yet they seem more than ready to accept almost any postulate, without question, and send yet more sons to die overseas.

Because, unlike Europe, we don't want to have those wars on our soil.  We fought WWI in Europe, WWII in Europe, and god willing, we'll fight WWIII there too.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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cynthialee

Oil is almost depleted. True.
There is only about 75 years worth of fissable materiale left. True.

But the sun will shine on long after mankind has evolved off of this rock or out right become extinct. There is plenty of energy to harvest.

However...the powers that be will keep a close tight fisted grip on energy in the future. Percieved scarcity is scarcity. And a scarce resourse fetches top dollar.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Annah

Quote from: Julie Marie on November 30, 2011, 10:01:46 AM
That and the infrastructure failing, which it already is.  We need the tax money to give big tax breaks to heavy political donors and infrastructure is one of the necessities that got funding cuts.

So how long does history show an empire usually lasts?

The Roman Empire, secularly lasted until 1453 but a few would argue 1917. Religiously, it lasted through 1806.
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cynthialee

The western powers are the legacy and inherators of Rome.

Go through the history books and track the money.

Look at our state buildings.

Look at the style of our legal system.

We even have our bread and circuses.

We are Rome.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Julie Marie

Quote from: Annah on November 30, 2011, 10:09:22 AM
The Roman Empire, secularly lasted until 1453 but a few would argue 1917. Religiously, it lasted through 1806.

Actually the Roman Empire morphed into the Catholic Church who continues to wage war and conquer today just like the Romans did centuries ago.  And the Catholic Church is very big in the Ol' USA.  Come to think of it, the US kinda does the same thing. 

Hail Emperor Baracus Obamus!

When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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Jen61

The Empire Lives ! Resistance is futile.

Gaius Arrius Belisarius
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Jen61

Quote from: cynthialee on November 30, 2011, 10:26:17 AM
The western powers are the legacy and inherators of Rome.

Go through the history books and track the money.

Look at our state buildings.

Look at the style of our legal system.

We even have our bread and circuses.

We are Rome.


The world is Rome, the christian lost at the end
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Annah

Quote from: Julie Marie on November 30, 2011, 10:28:26 AM
Actually the Roman Empire morphed into the Catholic Church who continues to wage war and conquer today just like the Romans did centuries ago.  And the Catholic Church is very big in the Ol' USA.  Come to think of it, the US kinda does the same thing. 

Hail Emperor Baracus Obamus!


Yes, I know the Roman State became the Roman Church....hence my last comment here.

The last time I checked, the Roman Catholic Church was centralized in the Vatican City State within the country of Italy. Not America.

Also, before pointing out the demonization of the Roman Catholic church, look into other religions as well and ourselves. We are all guilty of it.

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