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Started by Dale, November 25, 2011, 10:36:46 PM

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Dale

Quote from: envie on November 27, 2011, 12:44:26 AM
I already mentioned the same thing but no reaction.
I guess some people would rather walk around with a brain tumor  and live their fantasy.
Oh well :-\

I do not have a tumor, been castrated for many years so no fantasies. Just something I wanted to do. As I said, my daughter breastfed for a total of 5 years!
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envie

Just to clarify I have absolutely no interest in being right.
I've only stated what I've heard and asked for other people's experience.
I am not an MD and have no intent to prove anything but I reacted to what I saw as "red flags" in terms of taking the lactation as lightly and as a non issue.
When my endo mentioned lactation, pituitary glad enlargement, x-rays to exclude tumor I took it seriously. After all I want to improve my life and not end it prematurely for the sake of wonderful boobs.
You may have not had any problems but Pebbles did and there is another gal here that also stated concerns about it.
I have no problem with people disregarding my concerns as long as I know they heard them.

By the way I would have given anything to have had the chance to breast feed my daughter. She used to reject the bottle and when her birth mom was not around I had to figure out how to feed her and at times it was not going well. I felt terrible being unable to feed my baby, so useless unable to provide the most basic need for her. And it directly affected my dysphoria.
So I am not against BF but I do have my concerns about it as a transsexual. My daughter is 2 and a half and her birth mom is still breast feeding and that is fine. In my opinion the difference is that she is cisfemale and I am not. The difference is obviously the medication I am on.
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Cindy Stephens

An excellent article on the subject can be found at      http://www.secondtype.info/lactation.htm
Not only does it describe processes, procedures, etc. It gives a pretty good history and the experiences of what seem to be competent, cautious people.   It doesn't seem to contain a huge number of red flags. 
Is it possible your endo simply wasn't familiar with transsexual lactation? Here in the states, being examined by an endo for a brain tumor with x-rays or cat-scan, can be a very expensive proposition not covered by insurance if part of a transition.  Perhaps 3-6 thousand US,  Maybe more if a cat scan is used.  Well worth it if something seems truly wrong.  But maybe not for something that seems to be a fairly common occurrence among us. 
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Rabbit

I have been for 3-4 months now. Not a ton, still the colostrum (and it doesn't leak or anything anymore). My doctor isn't that worried about it (she checked my levels to make sure things weren't funky). She said a sudden dip in estrogen can cause this to start (and since I was on a very high dose and then switched to half of it later, that was probaby what did it).

At first I was really creeped out by it (just kind of strange...ok, very strange), but also kinda kewl (being "functional" as female in some aspect was neat :D)...and wasn't sure what to do (like... should you just ignore it? or do you need to do something?). Now I don't really think about it much, just kind of waiting for it to go away.
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Jen61

Quote from: Cindy Stephens on November 27, 2011, 01:04:58 PM
Sorry envie,  but if you hear hooves running (at least here in the US) you should be thinking horses, not zebras.  Lactation seems to be pretty common among those taking progesterone.  There are other threads on this board dealing with the same subject. I take it to increase breast size, which it does by increasing the size and number of milk glands.  At least for those of us who have success.  Now, I inject progesterone monthly.  I sometimes start lactating towards the end of the month as my progesterone levels decrease.  I believe it happens to some women also as they cycle.  I don't think it "smells" nor do I find it "gross", but I'm not a very squeamish person.  I do get a bit of staining though.   I just accept that it is part of the physical transition, one accepted by those women who experience it. If you do a google on the subject you will find that the highly regarded GRS surgeon Christine Mcginn, (herself a MTF) produces milk and breastfeeds her children.   Perhaps you should have more facts before suggesting someone has a brain tumor, though it couldn't hurt to mention it at the next meeting with her endo.  Please note, I'm not an MD, listen to me at your own risk.

yet, if you are not taking any progesterone; and you lactate, and have other symptoms such as painful intercourse due to vaginal dryness, please by all means do see your endo/general practitioner to rule out an adenoma of the pituitary
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Cyndigurl45

In the beginning I messed with dosages doubling etc. and ran out of everything except my progesterone cream and in about a week I was in full lactation mode talk about an emotional experience I used a pump for awhile thinking they would grow more, my breast swelled and after awhile longer when I got back on my normal HRT everything mellowed out. Really cool and feminine experience I just might have to repeat someday.
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BlonT

That it can be scary yes, but if its *milk*  wow neat, make me wish i was :)
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Dale

Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on November 28, 2011, 01:28:26 PM
In the beginning I messed with dosages doubling etc. and ran out of everything except my progesterone cream and in about a week I was in full lactation mode talk about an emotional experience I used a pump for awhile thinking they would grow more, my breast swelled and after awhile longer when I got back on my normal HRT everything mellowed out. Really cool and feminine experience I just might have to repeat someday.

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Cyndigurl45

Quote from: Dale on November 29, 2011, 09:17:11 AM
Cyndi,  I love you quote "I Love being her"!!!!!
Thank You :)
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michelle666

I havent had actual milk production but I have had a tiny amount of clear liquid come out when my buds started growing. I was doing my massage and thought I felt moisture, thought it was odd so I squeezed and a very small bit came out. This happened as I first noticed the milk ducts forming to the buds.
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JenJen2011

I lactated a bit after my breast augmentation. Oh wait, that was just the extra blood draining itself. Eww!
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Lexicaligari

I have heard of this happening to some t girls but never read any first hand accounts. Interesting....
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spx_1112

Dale. I have thought about adding motilium too.  Hugs Shannon
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Stephe

I'm pretty sure it's a bad idea to actually breast feed a newborn if you are taking all these meds...
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spx_1112

I wouldn't be with a newborn.
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generous4

Quote from: Stephe on November 01, 2012, 10:05:39 PM
I'm pretty sure it's a bad idea to actually breast feed a newborn if you are taking all these meds...
No, it is pretty safe.  Many women induce lactation for adopted newborns.
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kathy bottoms

I mentioned this to the Gender Therapist and she said it's not uncommon in the tg/ts community for some women to have an interest in lactation.  The Endo also questioned about liquid discharge two different times (once in a telephone call).  He explained that if it happens it could be an indication of problems, or it could just show him there's a need to further adjust my hormones.  But he said it would require an entirely different series of new tests, and imaging.  His questioning started as part of his routine interview process.  But he opened up the questioning even more when I got into the breast cancer history of my mother, my sisters lumpectomies, and one of my mothers sisters horribly aggressive cancer. 

I kind of think lactation is something that those of us who raised children during our marriages wish we could have experienced in that process.  After all we saw our wives feeding our children, and since our brains are wired female why wouldn't we miss nurturing our children in this very personal and natural way.  Lactation is a wonderful part of being a woman, and I'd love to experience it.
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monica.soto

I think lactation is super-awesome and something I would love to experiment, but my hypochondria and the internets informs me that spontaneous lactation might be a sign of a certain type of non cancerous prolactin Brain tumor called a prolactinoma.
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kathy bottoms

Pituitary tumors can cause male breast growth and lactation, and that is one of the things a doctor will test.  If lactation is induced by hormones or stimulation the Endo will still do testing just to make sure the lactation didn't occur due to other factors.

Kathy
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monica.soto

Quote from: kathy b on November 16, 2012, 10:48:17 AM
Pituitary tumors can cause male breast growth and lactation, and that is one of the things a doctor will test.  If lactation is induced by hormones or stimulation the Endo will still do testing just to make sure the lactation didn't occur due to other factors.

Kathy

True that Kathy!

That's why hormones should be prescribed by doctors and people under HRT need to get regularly checked.
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