Oh yeah and it HAS to be in minor... major keys are teh gay.

Quote from: 8888 on December 02, 2011, 01:52:28 PM
Maybe OP can make a plan (song layout) and then we can all chime in something, like a short section, doesn't have to be a whole instrument track. For example I could do a little guitar part or bass (though I haven't picked it up in a while lol).

First we need to pick a key... either B, E or A minor? Those are the simplist.

My idea of creative sharing is this

We share our songs, vote the first ones we want to work on.

So the author of the first song, put it down on mp3 and send it to the collab group.

Then everyone makes hints and criticize.

The author updates the files and says i need a guitar, a bass and a piano can you record it? i need a solo there a voice a drum some fx and so on. Obviously the hints of the previous part are integrated by the first author.

The author gives proper basis to each one with enough music to play the instrument on.

The player make his hints and plays basically what she and the author agree.

The player sends back the file with same time length with just her part.

So the first author collects all parts togheter and sends them to mixing to the mixer.
The two make a first mixing

The group listens and criticizes again.

Then the final mixing is done

The copyright of the song is to the author but the arrangeaments are of the group, all credits are listed.

The song is put aside, for the next one.

Finally an album is made.

I've been in music for quite some time now, to include managing several bands and even running a few venues. I even was a professional DJ for a number of years, doing live mixes on vinyl for trance and hip-hop shows. Production is what I've spent most of my time doing though, and is my professional career currently.

Live production stopped years ago when all of my equipment and albums perished in a fire. So, I mostly use Logic Studio, Soundtrack Pro/ Audition now. I'm actually thinking about getting back into live music though since I miss it so much! Actually, I should be receiving a Misa Kitara any moment now.

But, I haven't transitioned yet, and so I haven't posted any of my work on my youtube page (omg paranoia). I'm also quite a perfectionist.

I'd love to help produce some tracks though (under my hopefully to one day be permanent name). Please pm me if you would like to hear what I've done.

Wow I've seen the misa kitara!!! It is definitively a must buy!!! i wanted to buy a midi guitar but that thing is the future!

By now I play my Fend strat using the ipad for demoand midi  recording and mac with garageband for a step further, then i mix on logic
But i used cubase before, I don't miss it!

Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on December 02, 2011, 03:15:28 PM
Wow I've seen the misa kitara!!! It is definitively a must buy!!! i wanted to buy a midi guitar but that thing is the future!

By now I play my Fend strat using the ipad for demoand midi  recording and mac with garageband for a step further, then i mix on logic
But i used cubase before, I don't miss it!

Fabulous! My first guitar was a Strat. I used to use Sonar, Cubase, and Ableton, but I absolutely love Logic now. It's so versatile!

Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on December 02, 2011, 02:39:26 PM
My idea of creative sharing is this

We share our songs, vote the first ones we want to work on.

So the author of the first song, put it down on mp3 and send it to the collab group.

Then everyone makes hints and criticize.

The author updates the files and says i need a guitar, a bass and a piano can you record it? i need a solo there a voice a drum some fx and so on. Obviously the hints of the previous part are integrated by the first author.

The author gives proper basis to each one with enough music to play the instrument on.

The player make his hints and plays basically what she and the author agree.

The player sends back the file with same time length with just her part.

So the first author collects all parts togheter and sends them to mixing to the mixer.
The two make a first mixing

The group listens and criticizes again.

Then the final mixing is done

The copyright of the song is to the author but the arrangeaments are of the group, all credits are listed.

The song is put aside, for the next one.

Finally an album is made.

any different ideas about the process, are you okay with that?
I think this is both democratic and preserves the creativity of the first author of each song, but you can share your idea about it!

after some time passed on this post I guess we have a lot of composers, piano and guitar players, a producer, some singers, at least one drummer, some digital music makers (that of course have fx capabilities ), still lacking a full-time bass player, and some violin or cello ( although synths can do nice things with strings )

To clarify the situation, give us your music girls ( and boys), and show your competence!!! Don't be shy ( for me, for example it's hard to share my ugly and dissonant voice, but I'll do it i don't want to sing, so my voice will be just like a broken instrument in the musical ideas i will suggest )

I guess I will have to make a collab mailing list, so when we'll be enough ready I will ask you to give me your mail.

I think it's a fabulous idea. Each part could be in mp3.

Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on December 03, 2011, 05:28:10 AM
Any different ideas about the process, are you okay with that?

I think your idea is a bit too restrictive... if the author does most of the work, and the guest musicians just add small parts, the author has almost full control over where the song goes.

I was thinking more along the lines of:

* Devise a plan
* Drummer/Producer uses plan to lay out a drum track
* Everyone reviews drum track to make sure they're happy
* Each person picks a time slot for example 0:40-1:20 where they will add their piece - you can pick more than one time and layer more than one track, but don't too too much. OP should update first post to remind everyone of their section.
* Each person uploads their version for others to hear, remember there will be lots of gaps this time round. Others can decide whether to expand on someone else's section (for example add a piano part etc).
* Once everyone finishes upload the MASTER TRACKS along with the blended track for the mixer to download, align together and mix.

Also we can have different plans for different songs (for example use your plan for one), and see how they all come out.

Quote from: 8888 on December 03, 2011, 08:29:08 AM
I think your idea is a bit too restrictive... if the author does most of the work, and the guest musicians just add small parts, the author has almost full control over where the song goes.

I was thinking more along the lines of:

* Devise a plan
* Drummer/Producer uses plan to lay out a drum track
* Everyone reviews drum track to make sure they're happy
* Each person picks a time slot for example 0:40-1:20 where they will add their piece - you can pick more than one time and layer more than one track, but don't too too much. OP should update first post to remind everyone of their section.

* Each person uploads their version for others to hear, remember there will be lots of gaps this time round. Others can decide whether to expand on someone else's section (for example add a piano part etc).
* Once everyone finishes upload the MASTER TRACKS along with the blended track for the mixer to download, align together and mix.

Also we can have different plans for different songs (for example use your plan for one), and see how they all come out.

Well my plan , as yours, is a compromise between control and musical anarchysm. Of course there Are different degrees of freedom that can be' choosen,even your one, if the original author of the Sony requires it!!


Well if the basis can be' sent trough mp3 i dont know if the quality is empiti for the final mixing tracks! But your opinion as a producer is more important than mine.

I make music a lot, it'll probably end up being my career. I make hip hop and a few other genres. I'm actually working on my first album right now. =D But I don't post anything publicly on Susans because I as an artist just want to be identified as a woman, not a trans person.

I hear you all mentioning mp3 format. Just to help you all out. fyi That's a lossy compression codec. So if your going to just listen to it, then that's fine. However, don't use that format when your doing your edits and mastering. You want them raw, so use .wav when you get there.


Good Luck on everything. I can't wait to listen to some of the creations that will be made.

Rockn' Hugs

Oh BTW AndromedaVox, I'm still listening to your album "What are you so afraid of?". I love it.

Quote from: BrokenCode on December 03, 2011, 12:00:18 PM
I hear you all mentioning mp3 format. Just to help you all out. fyi That's a lossy compression codec. So if your going to just listen to it, then that's fine. However, don't use that format when your doing your edits and mastering. You want them raw, so use .wav when you get there.


Good Luck on everything. I can't wait to listen to some of the creations that will be made.

Rockn' Hugs

U will be in it with your compositions, right?

At the end every composer should have at last one of his own works performed and arranged togheter, that is the idea...

Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on December 03, 2011, 04:34:13 PM
U will be in it with your compositions, right?

At the end every composer should have at last one of his own works performed and arranged togheter, that is the idea...

I want to, but It will be a while before I get everything together.
I'll also have to cut my nails again to play the guitar . lol.

But thanks!! I hope I can join in one day.

Quote from: BrokenCode on December 03, 2011, 12:07:01 PM
Oh BTW AndromedaVox, I'm still listening to your album "What are you so afraid of?". I love it.

Thank you so much! I can't wait to do more collaborative work with other instruments in the future. Making music is so much fun haha

If all the person interested put here or pm me their mail I can start a mailinglist!!! We can start sharing our description, our best skills, and immediately some recordings we dont want to show everybody! Then in some days we can choose the first piece to work on!!! it can be fun!

Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on December 03, 2011, 05:28:10 AM
after some time passed on this post I guess we have a lot of composers, piano and guitar players, a producer, some singers, at least one drummer, some digital music makers (that of course have fx capabilities ), still lacking a full-time bass player, and some violin or cello ( although synths can do nice things with strings )

I play violin, among other string instruments.

Z

Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on December 01, 2011, 10:11:56 AM
You seem kind!
You have time for a cooperation, and can you make us listen how you play? And what you like.

it would be hard for the moment because I am living on the school and not at home, which mean I dont have recorder, camerars or anything like that, trapped at home,

if you asked me about a half yeah I might say yes, but right now it would be messy..

Quote from: AndromedaVox on December 01, 2011, 09:50:53 AM
If you'd like to check out my stuff feel free: joannaransdell.bandcamp.com

I've listened to the first couple of songs so far, I like your sound!

Z

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