Susan's Place Logo

News:

Please be sure to review The Site terms of service, and rules to live by

Main Menu

What if ........

Started by SarahM777, March 16, 2011, 06:03:48 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Anatta

Quote from: SarahM777 on December 02, 2011, 06:26:55 PM
Hello Zenda,

I do see where you are coming from. I can not agree that God is bound by the same natural laws that govern us. The One that created everything is greater than that which was created. The One who made the subatomic particles must also know how they work in such detail so that they all work in balance and the way they should. The One who created the DNA must know how it works when it is being replicated. The One who created the planets and the solar systems would know how they need to revolve around their stars and know where to place them so they orbit in a pattern that would keep them viable.

When looked at from this angle then the miracles that are spoken about are not only possible as God is greater than that which was created but for God they would be a simple matter for God. It would be a simple thing for God to change some molecules of water into wine,it would be a simple matter for God to heal a blind man,it would be a simple matter for God to drain the energy from a storm and calm the seas,and it would be a simple matter for God to raise someone from the dead. (Not so simple to my mind) And if I truly believe this then I must seek for the answers along this path as it will only happen in God's time and way.

Kia Ora Sarah,

::) I speak of fact...You speak from faith...

::) I can only say "Good luck on your quest for truth and may you find whatever it is you are looking for!"

::) Happy Mindfulness- either way it's all in the mind...

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
  •  

Kristyn74

Have you heard of Whitecross?





Kristyn
  •  

veronica nickie

HI Sarah!

Very cool

I think you have probably already passed the point of no return thru your faith, commitment and experiences.
I did several years ago, but still have a wall of fire (family)  that I will have to go thru.  Once we commit to him we want to follow it is much like being in a river, the exact direction and speed not in our hands, but we will get there.

Veronica
  •  

SarahM777

Hello Kristyn,

I have heard of Whitecross. I only know of a few of their songs. One of them happens to be No Second Chances.

I am not sure how to explain this but I will try to do the best I can. One of the things we can do before picking groups or a musician to listen to would be to ask God to give us a check (Kind of a stop sign don't go there) in our minds and spirits if they do not line up with God's truth. There have been some groups more so lately that started out appearing as if they were speaking the truth but after sometime they walked away from it. One or two of them became fairly popular. They had the gimmicks and the flashy show style but they had very little substance in what they said and their walk did not match their talk.


Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
  •  

SarahM777

Hi Veronica,

I saw your post and I do want to come back to it. I am taking my mom out for a while this morning and a bit this early afternoon. I would like to spend a little bit more time than just a quick post.

Sarah
Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
  •  

SarahM777

Quote from: veronica nickie on December 03, 2011, 07:51:42 AM

Very cool

I think you have probably already passed the point of no return thru your faith, commitment and experiences.
I did several years ago, but still have a wall of fire (family)  that I will have to go thru.  Once we commit to him we want to follow it is much like being in a river, the exact direction and speed not in our hands, but we will get there.


I was thinking about this earlier today. It came to mind to me that three of my brothers and sisters (Which have been against me are no longer around here) The last of the three moved about a year ago. They are now far enough away and they have very little to do with me now.  Two did have some violent tendencies. Not a good mix.

The other thing is most of the fear is gone. (It's still a work in progress) I think to often it's the fear that keeps us from moving forward. If we are holding onto Him and His word there is no need for the fear.  ;)


Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
  •  

Sweet Blue Girl

Interesting topic... What if God... i mean...
I guess being born male is just like a deformation an handicap, if God doesn't heal people living their life on wheel chair why would he do something for me?
I am agnostic, i believe there's something more than science, but I don 't believe it can contraddict the truths of reality, it is just a superior pourpous... The meaning we can choose for our life. That something we can give to the people that will live after us.
The same thing that differs between a man and an animal, our intelligence has grown up over the limits of the simple fight for exsistence ( by the way I do believe in evolution ) so much that we can overcome our limits making the world a bett place and who knows maybe perpetrating our culture and improving it  trough ages and spacial distances.
  •  

Emily Ray

Sarah,

I think you are well on your way to becoming a wise and faithful servant of the lord and that touches my heart, thank you.

Huggs

Emilmy
  •  

SarahM777

Quote from: Emily Ray on December 04, 2011, 06:52:12 PM

I think you are well on your way to becoming a wise and faithful servant of the lord and that touches my heart, thank you.


Hello Emily,

Thank you for the encouragement. We do need to hear that from time to time. I still have so far to go. It's not about me it's about God can do with a broken,messed up wreck of a human being. At times I am hoping that my attitude becomes just like this. (They sing it so much better that I can say it)

Godpleaser  - Petra

So many voices telling me which way to go
So many choices come from those who think they know
There's a way that seems right to a man but it only brings him death
I wanna go the way that leads to life till I draw my dying breath

Don't wanna be a man pleaser, I wanna be a God pleaser
I just want to have the wisdom to discern the two apart
Don't wanna be a man pleaser, I wanna be a God pleaser
I just want to do the things that please the father's heart

Some make a sacrifice and never let it show
Some make a point of letting everybody know
Some will live their lives as unto men and they have their reward
I just wanna do everything I do, with my heart unto the Lord

Don't wanna be a man pleaser, I wanna be a God pleaser
I just want to have the wisdom to discern the two apart
Don't wanna be a man pleaser, I wanna be a God pleaser
I just want to do the things that please the Father's heart

I just want my life to glorify His Son
To make my Father proud that I'm His child before I'm done
No need to pat me on the back or stop to shake my hand
I just want to hear my Father say "Well done, well done"
I just want to hear my Father say "Well done"

Don't wanna be a man pleaser, I wanna be a God pleaser
I just want to have the wisdom to discern the two apart
Don't wanna be a man pleaser, I wanna be a God pleaser
I just want to do the things that please the father's heart

I wanna be a God pleaser
I wanna be a God pleaser
I wanna be a God pleaser
...


It's not that I have it down yet. God just wants me to keep going forward. God will correct me when I need it,encourage me when I need to hear that also, and is incredibly patient as long as I do not become stubborn and unyielding. (That is another matter which leads to rebellion and that is NOT a good road to go down)

Sarah


(Yes I do really like music a lot and when I was younger I had a couple of jobs that I drove a lot soooooo.... I did listen to a lot of Christian music)
Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
  •  

SarahM777

More questions.

Going onward. Thinking a bit more on this do we miss a pattern that Jesus uses when He healed others? One of the things that is missed is that often Jesus not only healed but He also forgave the sins. (It wasn't in every case) But the forgiveness came first and not the healing. James himself also writes about this in his letter.

James 5 NIV

13 Is anyone among you in trouble? Let them pray. Is anyone happy? Let them sing songs of praise. 14 Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.
17 Elijah was a human being, even as we are. He prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years. 18 Again he prayed, and the heavens gave rain, and the earth produced its crops.

Using this as an example only can I expect that God would heal me of lung cancer if I continue to smoke or does this mean that the smoking must be dealt with first? Going on is it possible that some of the things that come out of the TS issues be preventing God from doing so?
Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
  •  

Emily Ray

My feelings on this particular verse are a mixture of confusion. I think it is the basis for the whole Exodus movement. I think it is important to recognize that Elija's prayer only stopped the rain because it was in alignment with Gods will. If it was Gods will for me to be healed of my transness then he would have done it by now. I now realize that He wants me to be trans. He did make me this way.

The deciples once asked Jesus if a blind man was blind because of his sin or his parents. Jesus replied neither, but that the glory of God might be revealed through him. He went on to heal the man. While all sickness can be traced back to sin as its origen. It may not always be individual sin. Original sin plays an important part in transness I feel. I also believe that Gods glory can be revealed through our lives.

Huggs

Emily
  •  

SarahM777

Quote from: Emily Ray on December 09, 2011, 12:46:44 PM
My feelings on this particular verse are a mixture of confusion. I think it is the basis for the whole Exodus movement. I think it is important to recognize that Elija's prayer only stopped the rain because it was in alignment with Gods will. If it was Gods will for me to be healed of my transness then he would have done it by now. I now realize that He wants me to be trans. He did make me this way.

The deciples once asked Jesus if a blind man was blind because of his sin or his parents. Jesus replied neither, but that the glory of God might be revealed through him. He went on to heal the man. While all sickness can be traced back to sin as its origen. It may not always be individual sin. Original sin plays an important part in transness I feel. I also believe that Gods glory can be revealed through our lives.

Huggs

Emily

If I made it sound like I was saying that TS is a sin I do apologize. I do not believe that it is. I could never before understand that if the world does not work perfectly anymore or that our bodies do not function perfectly then how is it possible that anyone can say that this is the one and only area of our lives that has not been affected by the brokeness of this world? It just does not make any sense to me.

What I was trying to say was that is it possible that there is something that we may be doing that may be doing is the very thing that may be preventing God from transforming our bodies?
Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
  •  

Sweet Blue Girl

Quote from: SarahM777 on December 10, 2011, 09:13:48 PM
If I made it sound like I was saying that TS is a sin I do apologize. I do not believe that it is. I could never before understand that if the world does not work perfectly anymore or that our bodies do not function perfectly then how is it possible that anyone can say that this is the one and only area of our lives that has not been affected by the brokeness of this world? It just does not make any sense to me.

What I was trying to say was that is it possible that there is something that we may be doing that may be doing is the very thing that may be preventing God from transforming our bodies?

Or maybe stopping to search some interpretation of our contemporary reality in  a book written two thousands year ago, and changed by bigotry and misunderstandings as the ones you are doing now. Yup, this could be a way to actually learn of ourselves and our reality.
  •  

SarahM777

Quote from: Sweet Blue Girl on December 11, 2011, 09:14:27 AM
Or maybe stopping to search some interpretation of our contemporary reality in  a book written two thousands year ago, and changed by bigotry and misunderstandings as the ones you are doing now. Yup, this could be a way to actually learn of ourselves and our reality.

But if as a Christian I say I believe that God can heal and transform me in a divine intervention, then I must look at this as a possability. Wether I am confined to a wheel chair,dealing with cancer, Aids, or T/S God still has a standard and will deal with those things that may prevent His divine healing if I am truly seeking that. Rage,envy,lust,greed,unforgiveness,bitterness and other things I may be harboring in my heart that have not been dealt with and also those things that we may have not yet done that needs to be done all may be things that may prevent Him from doing so till they are dealt with. And the only way to truly be able to see those things is two fold one is time in the bible but it MUST be balanced with a whole lot more time walking and talking with God.

The layers are deep and it is a very high mountain that is being asked to be moved. The kind of faith that is need to ask God to move this mountain is the kind that can only come from spending time with God so that it can grow to the point that I can not only know that God is able but also that if it is asked that God will do it.

Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
  •  

Sweet Blue Girl

Quote from: SarahM777 on December 16, 2011, 07:53:50 AM
But if as a Christian I say I believe that God can heal and transform me in a divine intervention, then I must look at this as a possability. Wether I am confined to a wheel chair,dealing with cancer, Aids, or T/S God still has a standard and will deal with those things that may prevent His divine healing if I am truly seeking that. Rage,envy,lust,greed,unforgiveness,bitterness and other things I may be harboring in my heart that have not been dealt with and also those things that we may have not yet done that needs to be done all may be things that may prevent Him from doing so till they are dealt with. And the only way to truly be able to see those things is two fold one is time in the bible but it MUST be balanced with a whole lot more time walking and talking with God.

The layers are deep and it is a very high mountain that is being asked to be moved. The kind of faith that is need to ask God to move this mountain is the kind that can only come from spending time with God so that it can grow to the point that I can not only know that God is able but also that if it is asked that God will do it.

You're asking for a miracle. But miracles do not have place in this world.
Or if you believe so strongly in them then...
You ask, basing your faith on antique scriptures, but the same old Book contains ( Sodoma ) the most precompcepts that have lead our difference to be segregated, annihilated, for sure not elegible for miracles

I guess either way you think about it, your ruining your time in wrong efforts.

We are our only saviours.

God, if you want to call him with this name, is inside us, in the efforts we do for living better and making the world better ( and the two things come togheter ).

I prayed a lot when I was child, to be changed. I believed in God. Nothing changed, and how can you believe there's someone more pure than a child with his/her broken heart praying? For sure there are no prayers now that can change me, cause of course I am not a pure child anymore, this is just another proof that prays are a good way to feel in touch with God, but only actions and perseverance can change our world!

So please dont ruin your life, i dont know how old are you, dont loose the time I ve lost.
  •  

SarahM777

I do want to apologize for not responding earlier but I have been in a very deep and dark place for the past 4 months. (Still not out of it but it is a bit better today)

The real question is do I trust God with this or not? It is implied when Jesus speaks of believing that it is much deeper than just saying we believe it,trusting implies acting on that belief. The two go hand in hand.

If God chooses not to do so in this life can I be content with knowing that the promise is to work this out for my good even though it may not seem so to me? Enough though it may involve pain,suffering,misunderstanding and heartache that I will submit to God's leading in my life and trust God that in the end this is not forever.
That in the end when God takes me home that I will be freed from this and will be the woman that God intended me to be.  In the course of eternity what is 100 years? At worse case it is something that I will deal with for a short period of time and it will be no more and I will be freed from this in God's way and time.

It's another learning lesson but one that is only learned through going through it and it comes down to a choice. Can I get to the point of no matter what situation I am in or hardship I am going through can I also make the choice of saying this very thing?

Blessed be your name  by tree63


Blessed be your name
In the land that is plentiful
Where the streams of abundance flow
Blessed be your name

Blessed be your name
When I'm found in the desert place
Though I walk through the wilderness
Blessed be your name

Every blessing you pour out,
I'll turn back to praise
When the darkness closes in, Lord
Still I will say...
Blessed be the name of the Lord
Blessed be your name
Blessed be the name of the Lord
Blessed be your glorious name

Blessed be your name
When the sun's shining down on me
When the world's all as it should be
Blessed be your name

Blessed be your name
On the road marked with suffering
Though there's pain in the offering
Blessed be your name

Every blessing you pour out,
I'll turn back to praise
When the darkness closes in, Lord
Still I will say...
Blessed be the name of the Lord
Blessed be your name
Blessed be the name of the Lord
Blessed be your glorious name

You give and take away
You give and take away
My heart will choose to say
Lord,Blessed be your name




Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
  •  

Amazon D

Sarah i am happy your back and feeling better hugs love Danielle :)
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

  •  

SarahM777

Thanks Danielle,

I really needed to hear that. (I like your name)  :)

I just got hammered with a number of things and I just felt like it was way to much to deal with and I was so close to chucking it all. I mean how much does one have to keep going through? When does it ever end? I am just soooooo...
tired and worn out and I just want to go to sleep. It just seems like there are just too many mountains that are just seem way too high. The icing on the cake is one of my best friends and the first one outside the family that knew passed on in that time frame and the week he passed on I was being prompted to call but I didn't do it and it's really tearing me up.
I know I am going to get through this but it just doesn't feel like it right now.
Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
  •  

SarahM777

#58
I just have to write this down if I don't I'm going to go looney tunes. Where do I start?

About 5 months ago the site I use for my business made a major change. As it is a smaller site there was a 30 % drop off in business. Before this I was getting by and was able to set some aside for the estimated taxes. But it dropped off so much that over the last 3 months I am barely scrapping by and don't have a penny for next months taxes yet. Even with running major sales it has not helped much at all.

I then find out that my helpers work has fallen off so much that I need to rework 13,000 listings that are now running and I also have to rework 12,000 items that have not been listed. Add to that there is almost 100,000 items that still have to be worked up and listed.

It would not be so bad if this was the first and only time that I have had to redo some listings but this is the 4th time in 8 years. The first time Ebay did me a "favor" by ending them all because my account got hijacked. The second time was because my sister took a bunch of the inventory. The third was the best of all Ebay ended over 10,000 of them because of "Intellectual property rights" despite the fact that nothing I sell has any intellectual property rights attached.

Mom is starting to go down hill and it is being noticed by others besides myself.  It's not going to be much longer before I will have to take on the running of the whole household along with all of the cooking and cleaning. The outside was let go for over 3 years on a 3 + acre parcel other then very basic mowing and some very light tree triming. The flower beds and garden are in really bad shape. 3 of my siblings do want to have anything to do with either my mom or myself so no help there. If my other brother who lives 10 minutes away would even just once in a while take mom for a day it would help.

The only place she wants to go other than shopping is a church that i don't fit in and feel like I am slowly dying in. I can't keep her from there as her only living friends are there and she can no longer drive. Being an outsider there will be no help coming from that end.

Still only half way done with cleaning my fathers left over crap. Still have 2 sheds and 1/2 of the garage and 1/2 of the basement to clean out.

With all the things that seem to be done now it just seems like the one thing I really need to have taken care of has to get shelved again.
Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
  •  

Amazon D

Quote from: SarahM777 on March 18, 2012, 05:41:43 AM
I just have to write this down if I don't I'm going to go looney tunes. Where do I start?

About 5 months ago the site I use for my business made a major change. As it is a smaller site there was a 30 % drop off in business. Before this I was getting by and was able to set some aside for the estimated taxes. But it dropped off so much that over the last 3 months I am barely scrapping by and don't have a penny for next months taxes yet. Even with running major sales it has not helped much at all.

I then find out that my helpers work has fallen off so much that I need to rework 13,000 listings that are now running and I also have to rework 12,000 items that have not been listed. Add to that there is almost 100,000 items that still have to be worked up and listed.

It would not be so bad if this was the first and only time that I have had to redo some listings but this is the 4th time in 8 years. The first time Ebay did me a "favor" by ending them all because my account got hijacked. The second time was because my sister took a bunch of the inventory. The third was the best of all Ebay ended over 10,000 of them because of "Intellectual property rights" despite the fact that nothing I sell has any intellectual property rights attached.

Mom is starting to go down hill and it is being noticed by others besides myself.  It's not going to be much longer before I will have to take on the running of the whole household along with all of the cooking and cleaning. The outside was let go for over 3 years on a 3 + acre parcel other then very basic mowing and some very light tree triming. The flower beds and garden are in really bad shape. 3 of my siblings do want to have anything to do with either my mom or myself so no help there. If my other brother who lives 10 minutes away would even just once in a while take mom for a day it would help.

The only place she wants to go other than shopping is a church that i don't fit in and feel like I am slowly dying in. I can't keep her from there as her only living friends are there and she can no longer drive. Being an outsider there will be no help coming from that end.

Still only half way done with cleaning my fathers left over crap. Still have 2 sheds and 1/2 of the garage and 1/2 of the basement to clean out.

With all the things that seem to be done now it just seems like the one thing I really need to have taken care of has to get shelved again.

Hey i totally understand part of your plight because i too take care of my 89 yr old mother. As for your business issues i do not have them. However, i am a farmer and do have to manage thousands of plants. You will be blessed for your good works. Keep knowing that life here on earth is but a dream of the true spiritual world from whence we came and to where we will return.  Your home above is waiting as is mine but we have to serve below and wait until that time. Hgs Danielle

PS: I hope your physical ailments are feeling better
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

  •