That passing is NOT important to me.... It never has been and never will be... no matter all those times i got all pissy about some guy calling me 'lady'

I know what i want. I want a super androgynouse look, but still be definate male. I dont care if people mistake for being female. I am what i am and thats everything and anything!

I often wonder if i really am androgyne.... but if my therapist says so (when i finally get one) then they say so... if not, i aint too bothered because i know what and who i am - ME!

And thats all that matters!

There, i said all i have to say! And within letting you all know what i think it's also kinda like a personal admittance to myself that i dont care! ^_^

Hell yeah!  That's awesome, Wishy!

You got it -- you're in this to be yourself.  All the rest is commentary, as they say.

Wishy, first of all we all support you no matter what you decide.

Second of all, please understand. No ethical therapist is going to label you anything. Can you imagine a therapist telling someone they are officially gay? No way. Self diagnosis is the key.

Thirdly, my ex boyfriend was a F2M and had lots of trouble passing. I don't think he ever did, recalling. I often wanted him to get on T, because I thought it would help him. I don't want to suggest a course of action, but T is certainly an option.

Bri

Wishy, passing is only important to a certain degree; there are other aspects of being a man which make passing obsolete (i.e., confidence, demeanor, self-esteem, the love you feel for yourself.) 

I've always said that passing is like money, very helpful but it isn't everything.


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It's just the personal level of passing i always wanted to acheive for myself... And yeah, it would help MASSES if i was to get on T... But i guess that can only happen after a year i've been living in my male role. I doubt i could just phone up my GP and say: "Hey, i want T already!!" Though i wish it was that simple.

But yeah... off to get my new haircut today  I cant wait cos it's guna look awsomeness! I just need to find myself someplace to buy decent clor=thes, yanno.... i really want lots of unisex-style clothes. I want people to look at me and say: "Is that a boy or a girl??  "  That would give me such a buzz!!

I guess i was just kinda scared that if doc's/therapists didn't see me as 100% male, they wouldn't believe that what i want is real. I just wana fit in the middle but be definatly male... if ya get what i mean.

A hormone authorization letter typically takes 3 months, three visits to a gender counselor.  (Check our list by state and UK.)

You have a great look already.

But, if you were walking down Alberta Street in Portland, no one would notice you.

I think you look like a alt. rocker.

Quote from: Robyn on March 24, 2007, 07:37:49 PM
A hormone authorization letter typically takes 3 months, three visits to a gender counselor.  (Check our list by state and UK.)

Are those three months after the one year living in the role of your desired gender? I dont even have a gender therapist/councellor yet. I have an ordinary councellor that doesn't specialise in GID.... so i doubt she could help.

Heya Wishy,

From the experiences I have had with the NHS gender clinic in Leicester it could be anything from 6 months to a year after you have seen your gender therpaist/counselor before you start hormones.  A lot of it depends on waiting times at the clinic you are going to attend, how they diagnose you and the course of action they take. 

The first appointment I had at the clinic I was reffered to in Leicester was in April 2005.  They explained I would need to live for 2 years as a woman and provide proof that my name had been changed along with a copy of my life story, I dont think that appointment lasted more that 20 minutes.  I prepared both of these documents and returned them as requested.  In September 2005 they wrote back saying they had authorised hormones to be given to me via my GP and I went full time in October 2005.  Due to various complications with the local PCT regarding funding I didn't actually start hormone treatment until October 2006, pretty much a year to the day since I started living as a woman.  The one thing I have learned with the NHS though Wishy is that you just have to be patient, there are times that its so frustrating waiting for things to be sorted out and you feel that you are just getting nothing done, but eventually it all just clicks in to place.  My 2 year RLE/RLT is up this October, I have a feeling they may want to extend it as I will have only been on hormones for a year but I honestly dont know where the time has gone.  Maybe just try to go to your first appointment with an open mind about what they will do and how long its going to take !!

Becky
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Good for you!  Why let what others think rule what you do?  Just be yourself.  Then it's their problem, not yours. 

I support you all the way!

Julie

Quote from: wishy on March 25, 2007, 07:27:18 AM

Quote from: Robyn on March 24, 2007, 07:37:49 PM
A hormone authorization letter typically takes 3 months, three visits to a gender counselor.  (Check our list by state and UK.)

Are those three months after the one year living in the role of your desired gender? I dont even have a gender therapist/councellor yet. I have an ordinary councellor that doesn't specialise in GID.... so i doubt she could help.

I could be totally wrong here so forgive me in advance if I am but off the top of my head I wanna say you got this backwards.
I *think* you can begin T after three months of therapy and that the year of going full time is required for the SRS not the T.

I think you look awesome, Wishy! Good for you!

Quote from: togetherwecan on March 25, 2007, 08:50:41 PM

Quote from: wishy on March 25, 2007, 07:27:18 AM

Quote from: Robyn on March 24, 2007, 07:37:49 PM
A hormone authorization letter typically takes 3 months, three visits to a gender counselor.  (Check our list by state and UK.)

Are those three months after the one year living in the role of your desired gender? I dont even have a gender therapist/councellor yet. I have an ordinary councellor that doesn't specialise in GID.... so i doubt she could help.

I could be totally wrong here so forgive me in advance if I am but off the top of my head I wanna say you got this backwards.
I *think* you can begin T after three months of therapy and that the year of going full time is required for the SRS not the T.

I was always told you had to live a year in your gender role before you got T. But that would be great if i was wrong!!!

It might be different in different countries. In the US, you don't have to be living fulltime to get hormones- just three months of therapy. But in the UK, the rules might be a little different.