Quote from: jainie marlena on December 21, 2011, 12:07:27 AM
I wanted to know if you would wear Shirts that says things like,

It's a GYRL thing.

SUPER GYRL

TRANS WOMEN'S LIBORATION : picture of me burning a pair of men's underwear hanging off of a stick. 

We do exyst

Time for me to live my life not you

I like the idea of making things that open peoples minds. I want others to see that people are open to us.

I dont know if it exist but I know ther are shops/internetstores/ where you can make your own tshirt by putting a decribtion on how you want it to look like, or where you can buy thigns to make it yourself.
if all you need is a picture or text then its very easy to make.

@Natkat I would like to know more. I was hoping the net would help with this plan.

another look at what I mean plant the idea

VistaPrint is fairly cheap.  My wife makes candles and soaps that we sell at local events.  We have a couple of different sets of shirts that we've made for that.  This last set was like $5 a piece.

Across the front of the shirt will sayANDROGYNY on the back will be the frase of choice.

@ JenevaI need a place that makes patches that can be sowen  pants, hat and so on..

"sweet smell of not being seen as fat guy with rouged cheeks." YEEAAAHHH 

Quote from: lilacwoman on December 21, 2011, 02:10:05 AM
last time I was anywhere near anyone who claimed to be out'n'proud was at a transgender rights seminar I agreed to sit in.
the leader stood up and above his male pot belly and rouged cheeks said he was out'n'proud.

I waited for my turn and informed the group that 'out'n'proud is a marker of gays or Lesbian but not TS.   he did not like this.  he also said he had no intention of losing his penis.

needless to say the rouge was the only female thing about him.

Is there a reason trans people can't be out and proud? And what does their (not clear on their gender based on your post) penis have to do with anything?

out'n'proud is a gay thing.

out and proud is for anyone within the LGBT community; it is by no means exclusive to the gay community despite it typically being associated with it more than others.

Well I will be out and pround when the time comes.. Because I cant hide anyway! I live in a very small place and knows lots and lots of people through work and so on. There is just no way that I would be able to go stealth even if I looked spot on as a girl.. Which I dont think will be the case anyway, so I am happy to become atleast something inbetween!

Quote from: Akashiya Moka on December 21, 2011, 05:10:01 AM
...Wait, you have a unicorn back there?? Really? I'm kind of jealous.

I have a unicorn in the front/

I'm out and proud to be a woman, nothing more nothing less, just a woman.
Out and proud for being trans is in my opinion silly, like one is looking for attention, mostly in a negative way.

Quote from: Julian on December 21, 2011, 11:52:30 AM
Is there a reason trans people can't be out and proud? And what does their (not clear on their gender based on your post) penis have to do with anything?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed what appears to be intentional misgendering.

Stuff like this should probably not be happening on a transgender forum...

Quote from: Maya Zimmerman on December 21, 2011, 04:35:06 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed what appears to be intentional misgendering.

Stuff like this should probably not be happening on a transgender forum...

Well I have said I identify with gay men several times here. I am also a transgender performer. To the green among us, they attempt to knock me down a few pegs by saying I am less trans than them.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 21, 2011, 04:36:29 PM
Well I have said I identify with gay men several times here. I am also a transgender performer. To the green among us, they attempt to knock me down a few pegs by saying I am less trans than them.

It seems like trans people arent much better than the "normal" ones when it comes to acceptance? that is kind of sad in a way. We cannot all be the same!

 It would depend on the shirt, but generally I avoid graphic/print on them. It might be fun to have a trans shirt, but I think I'll wait until I'm more confident in my passability to wear such a thing outside - provided the shirt works in an outfit anyway.

I'm not really out, but I don't make any special effort to hide my trans status either. Proud, for sure, but I don't really feel like everyone needs to know. It'd probably be more effort than it's worth.

Mahsa - To be perfectly honest, I wonder sometimes how I should refer to you if such a situation were to arise.  I know you often relate to being a gay man.  Would you prefer male pronouns?  You have a very feminine appearance, but if you feel like a male identity fits better for you, I'd like to be accommodating.

Quote from: Maya Zimmerman on December 21, 2011, 04:42:52 PM
Mahsa - To be perfectly honest, I wonder sometimes how I should refer to you if such a situation were to arise.  I know you often relate to being a gay man.  Would you prefer male pronouns?  You have a very feminine appearance, but if you feel like a male identity fits better for you, I'd like to be accommodating.

I'm the same as you, a transsexual female... It's my PERSONAL identity versus my PUBLIC identity. But at the end of the day, I look in the mirror and I see a fabulous gay male...It's more of my own identity conflicts if anything.

But even so, I find myself alienated in gay communities beyond my performer issues.

Well, I hope you find a way to relate who you are with the world around you without conflict... if that's a thing you want...

 

Quote from: jainie marlena on December 21, 2011, 12:07:27 AM
I like the idea of making things that open peoples minds. I want others to see that people are open to us.

So I think. I am out, not proud but consistent with my reality. I am a woman, as well as transexual or tall or anything else.
I don´t like the idea of stealth in my life, it´s a very sad thing to me. The only way that I found to be myself was transsexuality. People use to be ignorant about transsexuality, but curious too, and curiosity is the first step of knowledge.
In my facebook page, I try, using the curiosity of people, to give a close vision about life of a transexual woman. I think this can change opinions and stereotypes and make our lives better. And this is the thing that I am proud of.