Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 27, 2011, 12:35:51 AM
Men are attracted to the face...the bod...the whole package. Makeup is important, but only because it emphasizes what you've got.

Well makeup and facial features have a good start up point when it comes to passing with short hair...so you don't look like this:

Haha that is very true. Even without makeup I feel I can pass but a little emphasis on the eyes I've found really helps feminize a lot (especially because I unfortunately have small eyes).

Also thanks MsDazzler and Guantanamera for the compliments! Short hair was really fun but I am in the process of growing it out again. I want hair down to my elbows I've decided!

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 26, 2011, 11:57:09 PM
I just realized that most of the people who prefer short hair here tend to be lesbians and natal lesbians tend to like having short hair. Correlation? :-P

I prefer short hair and I'm not a lesbian. =P

Nor am I. And my male partner who identifies as straight loooves my short hair. As long as it's long enough to pull, he says.

I have a question for you short-haired females - do you find it easier or harder to be consciously feminine with short hair opposed to long hair?

I never had long hair and finally started growing it after I shaved my head bald and started to transition last year - now it is chin-length and looking forward to it finally reaching my shoulders and onwards to reaching my breasts.

The longer my hair gets, the increasingly femme I feel - you know, I start to spend more and more time takign care of it, love being able to flip my hair back, love the guy running his hand through my hair in bed (although, it tends to tangle in his fingers because it is curly)...

And I am a hypocrite - I admt it, I am comfortable with gender binarism and subscribe to the traditional image of a woman (in the straight guy's viewpoint, anyway) - long flowing locks, makeup, skirt or dress. heh

Quote from: Andromeda on December 27, 2011, 09:45:43 AM
Haha that is very true. Even without makeup I feel I can pass but a little emphasis on the eyes I've found really helps feminize a lot (especially because I unfortunately have small eyes).

Well basically short hair works if you already have a femmie to andro face to begin with.

Look at Ashlee Simpson's short hair. I showed a pic of her to my b/f and he was like, "that's not good"

I think your face has not changed much from that picture with short hair and personally, I like you better with longer hair Mahsa. Your face doesn't looks much at all like the face of the girl you sent a picture of.

I think you could still pull it off though, as you should use what haircut makes you feel better.

Quote from: Bird on December 27, 2011, 01:23:04 PM
I think your face has not changed much from that picture with short hair and personally, I like you better with longer hair Mahsa. Your face doesn't looks much at all like the face of the girl you sent a picture of.

Hormones don't change your face as much as using makeup efficiently and properly. Hair length, clothing, etc effect the overall picture. The effects are subtle, it's what you do with everything around the sublte effect that matters.

I had distinctive features(big eyes, small upper lip, high cheek bones) before...so of course, my eyes will never have changed.

Short, naturally (hella) curly hair? Terrible video still!:



Give me about six more months and it's over. (Yeah, yeah I start laser in three weeks.  )

Quote from: Lone Cypress on December 27, 2011, 01:49:40 PM
Short, naturally (hella) curly hair? Terrible video still!:



Give me about six more months and it's over. (Yeah, yeah I start laser in three weeks.  )

I can't see anything in that pic.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 27, 2011, 10:53:30 PM
I can't see anything in that pic.

Told you it was terrible.

Quote from: Lone Cypress on December 28, 2011, 12:34:51 AM
Told you it was terrible.

Then why post it? Listen, here's a little bit of advice for you...Post photos of you at your best, not at your worst.

btw, I hope Eve sees her apple.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 28, 2011, 12:36:08 AM
Then why post it? Listen, here's a little bit of advice for you...Post photos of you at your best, not at your worst.

btw, I hope Eve sees her apple.

No.

Apples are delicious.

Quote from: Lone Cypress on December 28, 2011, 12:47:21 AM
No.

Apples are delicious.

Hon, it was a nice way of saying your adam's apple is showing.

Wait, wait... I apologize, that was pretty damn blunt of me, I got better ones that I took just now:

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 28, 2011, 01:27:51 AM
Hon, it was a nice way of saying your adam's apple is showing.

I know what you were saying. I saw it when I took the pic, I liked it anyway.

Quote from: Lone Cypress on December 28, 2011, 01:33:37 AM
Wait, wait... I apologize, that was pretty damn blunt of me, I got better ones that I took just now:

LOL

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 28, 2011, 01:49:09 AM
LOL

What?! I was showing you my curly hair!  I can't wait for it to get down to my shoulders. This is after a year of growth.

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 27, 2011, 11:48:38 AM
I have a question for you short-haired females - do you find it easier or harder to be consciously feminine with short hair opposed to long hair?

Short hair or long hair, makeup or not, has nothing to do with it for me. Simply taking the hormones eases the dysphoria--or disconnect between my female mind and male-born body--and makes me feel wonderful. How I adorn my body is largely irrelevant. 

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 27, 2011, 01:41:50 PM
Hormones don't change your face as much as using makeup efficiently and properly. Hair length, clothing, etc effect the overall picture. The effects are subtle, it's what you do with everything around the sublte effect that matters.

I'd have to disagree with you on this. Hormones have drastically changed my face, and I get gendered correctly occasionally now, even without makeup and with short hair, and even though I'm not quite done yet with electrolysis. Once I'm done with electrolysis and I've been on HRT for a couple years, I'm sure I'll have no problem being gendered correctly--without makeup, with short hair, in just a t-shirt and jeans, or however else I decide to express my gender.

I should also point out that I take more of an activist approach in my transition. I'm interested in educating people and addressing the larger social issues that affect those of us who identity as a sex other than the one we were assigned at birth. I'm not interested in just reaching a point of being "passable" and then living in "stealth." If that's your thing, or you feel you have to in order to survive, that's fine. But that's not my thing and I'm fortunate enough to live in a place where I don't face a huge threat of violence if I don't "pass." Also, for me, being a transwoman is not incompatible with being a woman.

Quote from: valyn_faer on December 28, 2011, 09:31:38 AM
Short hair or long hair, makeup or not, has nothing to do with it for me. Simply taking the hormones eases the dysphoria--or disconnect between my female mind and male-born body--and makes me feel wonderful. How I adorn my body is largely irrelevant. 

I'd have to disagree with you on this. Hormones have drastically changed my face, and I get gendered correctly occasionally now, even without makeup and with short hair, and even though I'm not quite done yet with electrolysis. Once I'm done with electrolysis and I've been on HRT for a couple years, I'm sure I'll have no problem being gendered correctly--without makeup, with short hair, in just a t-shirt and jeans, or however else I decide to express my gender.

HRT makes subtle changes, assuming you already had the raw elements to begin with. I don't count on it, I count more on my presentation and keepin my body in shape.

Quote from: valyn_faer on December 28, 2011, 09:31:38 AM
Short hair or long hair, makeup or not, has nothing to do with it for me. Simply taking the hormones eases the dysphoria--or disconnect between my female mind and male-born body--and makes me feel wonderful. How I adorn my body is largely irrelevant. 

I'd have to disagree with you on this. Hormones have drastically changed my face, and I get gendered correctly occasionally now, even without makeup and with short hair, and even though I'm not quite done yet with electrolysis. Once I'm done with electrolysis and I've been on HRT for a couple years, I'm sure I'll have no problem being gendered correctly--without makeup, with short hair, in just a t-shirt and jeans, or however else I decide to express my gender.

I should also point out that I take more of an activist approach in my transition. I'm interested in educating people and addressing the larger social issues that affect those of us who identity as a sex other than the one we were assigned at birth. I'm not interested in just reaching a point of being "passable" and then living in "stealth." If that's your thing, or you feel you have to in order to survive, that's fine. But that's not my thing and I'm fortunate enough to live in a place where I don't face a huge threat of violence if I don't "pass." Also, for me, being a transwoman is not incompatible with being a woman.

First of all, props to the activist approach! I am the first openly transgender woman at my workplace, so I have been sort of thrust in the "educator" role on trans issues at that workplace.

Second of all, I think you misunderstood my question - i know hair has nothing to do with feeling masculine or feminine, but i am asking if it made you feel more feminine to have long hair.