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Started by Darrin Scott, December 29, 2011, 02:31:38 PM

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Kreuzfidel

Darrin, I understand what you're saying and agree that it is nice when other topics outside of physical transition are brought up.  However IMHO social transition tends to be more about learning for yourself through experience while medical issues can be more difficult to attain accurate information about except via people who have experienced it.  For example, reading online one can get 5 different "answers" to a question pertaining to HRT because websites aren't always country-specific.  Talking to people from your own country about the process can save time and anxiety.  Additionally I have to wonder why people would complain about having to answer basic questions from pre-trans or early-trans individuals - no one has a gun to anyone's head forcing them to be here, let alone be bothered to answer questions.  The last thing I would want to see is newcomers too afraid to "burden" members with their valid questions.  I know how it feels to have no idea where to start as we have all been there.
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Mister

QuoteThe last thing I would want to see is newcomers too afraid to "burden" members with their valid questions. 

There is a search function on this thing, isn't there?
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insideontheoutside

If I may be so bold to say it, I definitely tire of seeing the "T Topics" done to death. A simple search on the site could probably answer a lot of the questions. And yes there's a lot of emotional or personal threads that come up that actually do cover the same topics ("I'm scared to go on T, but it's what I want" seems to be a frequent reoccurring one).

When I start topics they're usually different. Probably because I'm not transitioning or on T so I'm thinking about a lot more things and am often interested in more social topics. Maybe I'll go start one right now ...
"Let's conspire to ignite all the souls that would die just to feel alive."
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Darrin Scott

I want to say again, I'm not against the "T" topics at all and I understand that people need help. The plight of every message board is people ignore the search function and post before reading existing topics. What I don't understand is why social transition has to wait until after physical transition. Isn't it all going on at the same time? Don't we expect our friends and family and even sometimes strangers to treat us differently after coming out and in some cases BEFORE physical transition begins? Regardless of where you are in physical transition, once you've come out, social dynamics change and you hope people see you for who you really are and not what you're not. I still don't understand why we're not seeing more of these threads. popping up, but we have "T" threads out the wazoo. To me, there is more to life then getting on T.

As far as older trans folk not wanting to give back to the younger in transition. That's a damn shame. Everyone was starting out at some point and I don't see answering questions as a bad thing. If you don't want to answer questions, don't. But I do believe some of the questions are valid and should be answered by someone. I'm glad I know someone older in transition in real life. Sure helps me. I hope to pass that onto someone else down the line.





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Felix

I just want to point out for those who haven't figured it out that our search function is awful, and the best way to search old threads is to go to google and pair your search term with site:susans.org.
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Felix

Quote from: Mister on December 30, 2011, 04:23:44 PM
Holy crap.  This is getting just plain ridiculous.

So, only new topics and only old terms?
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JohnAlex

Maybe we just need a sticky with all kinds of information on T and maybe links to places like ftmguide.org.  and then people can ask all their T questions in that one single thread instead of making a new thread for every question.

Personally, I never noticed and don't mind all the threads about T.

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he who shall not be named

Quote from: Mister on December 30, 2011, 04:23:44 PM
Holy crap.  This is getting just plain ridiculous.

Why? FAAB and MAAB are actually very useful terms. They're much more precise and accurate than "I was born a girl" or "I was born a boy," which is an overly simplistic way of explaining things for many trans* people (though some people describe their experience that way, and of course that's perfectly alright). Language evolves, the terms minority groups use to describe themselves changes; there's nothing ridiculous about that.
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caseyyy

i like the idea of a sticky for questions about T. We have a bodybuilding thread like that and it seems that most find their way in there now.
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Adio

I've just stopped actively reading and replying to threads that don't really interest me.  It shouldn't be too hard for others to do the same.

TBH, I do get bored of the same types of threads, but that sort of thing happens everywhere.  And while doing your own research is great, sometimes the information is really old or doesn't quite fit the question being asked.  Plus, like Felix pointed out, Susan's search function really sucks.

I like the new terms because I feel like they fit my situation better.  I was assigned female at birth, but I was never female (gender).  So going from "female-to-male" doesn't make as much sense as being a male who was assigned female at birth.
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AdamMLP

I just used the terms because it's quicker than alternative, less correct, convoluted explainations.
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Jude

Quote from: Natkat on December 30, 2011, 10:43:00 AM
about noticing diffrence,
am I the only one who kinda felt girls changes after I transdition. I used to be "the girls friend" kinda type, even when they all knew me as trans, I am still having alot of girl friends, but now they keep me more on distance, and somethimes point out how im the guy, and how I should do this or that cause im the man?.

ya i get what you mean! though most of my friends are girls, most of them are more like tomboys (in their personality rather than appearance) so it's like hanging out with my guys friends. but i do have a group of female friends that are total divas and i am expected to act in a chivalrous and respectful manner at all times, rather than the crude typical boyish way i am with most of my other friends. and if something happens that a guy would normally do i am expected to fix it.
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Natkat

Quote from: Jude on December 31, 2011, 05:35:37 PM
ya i get what you mean! though most of my friends are girls, most of them are more like tomboys (in their personality rather than appearance) so it's like hanging out with my guys friends. but i do have a group of female friends that are total divas and i am expected to act in a chivalrous and respectful manner at all times, rather than the crude typical boyish way i am with most of my other friends. and if something happens that a guy would normally do i am expected to fix it.

it just sorta strange, I do once in a while like to act alittle genly man style, but I bet the diffrence is,
before I did it for my own amusement.

now I somethimes do it for myself,
and somethimes I have the women point out I should do it for there sake.. LOL
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Felix

Quote from: Natkat on December 31, 2011, 06:31:41 PM
it just sorta strange, I do once in a while like to act alittle genly man style, but I bet the diffrence is,
before I did it for my own amusement.

now I somethimes do it for myself,
and somethimes I have the women point out I should do it for there sake.. LOL

I've noticed a little of this too. Like somehow I'm better at opening jars or carrying boxes or whatever now that I'm a man? Lol my body and personality are mostly the same. Gendered social behaviors are interesting. :P
everybody's house is haunted
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Natkat

Quote from: Felix on December 31, 2011, 07:50:36 PM
I've noticed a little of this too. Like somehow I'm better at opening jars or carrying boxes or whatever now that I'm a man? Lol my body and personality are mostly the same. Gendered social behaviors are interesting. :P

just very unlogical..
if a girl hits you = you deserved that
if you hit a girl = your violance bastard

if a girls hides behind your back = shes think you will protect her
if you hide behind a girls back = she thinks your a p**
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