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Does this make it look any better? (before and after pics) Please respond

Started by sysm29, January 01, 2012, 05:42:26 PM

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sysm29



All I did was shorten the chin and rounded it out.  That and I'm smiling, which makes the face look more feminine.  When I frown it looks like an angry miserable man (see my other thread). 

I just can't believe how old I look.  I'm definitely not young anymore.  I'll be 27 in September, but my God it just looks so old and tired.  Like my mother did when she was 40.  My eyes actually have bags under them.

Believe it or not, this was me two years ago:

I was on estrogen for a year (most of 2010), I stopped it for all of 2011 until just a week ago.  Do you think the estrogen did anything because I think I looked so different before.

Does the new picture look any more feminine?  To me it does look more like a woman... it looks like my mother a lot.....she is no longer with us..

I don't know what to really make of it.  It doesn't really look like all the other transgender women do.  It just doesn't really look that great.
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A

...Maybe a little? Not sure. In either case, the change is extremely minor. I think your problems might come, as you said, from your tired eyes, but most importantly, the thickness of your eyebrows is exceptional even for a man. It definitely cannot help.
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BillieTex

Be true to yourself, even if no one else will...
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Zarania

yes it makes you look better in my eyes, but will this fix your problem? i dont think so.

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MsDazzler

Quote from: Zarania on January 01, 2012, 10:16:07 PM
yes it makes you look better in my eyes, but will this fix your problem? i dont think so.



The problem is - is just passing good enough for you or you want to be both passing and stunning?

If it is the latter, then you are going down the same road as Amanda Leopre did - now she totally messed up her face from multiple and unnecessary surgeries.  :o
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Annah

Quote from: sysm29 on January 01, 2012, 05:42:26 PM
All I did was shorten the chin and rounded it out.  That and I'm smiling, which makes the face look more feminine.  When I frown it looks like an angry miserable man (see my other thread). 

I just can't believe how old I look.  I'm definitely not young anymore.  I'll be 27 in September, but my God it just looks so old and tired.  Like my mother did when she was 40.  My eyes actually have bags under them.

I was on estrogen for a year (most of 2010), I stopped it for all of 2011 until just a week ago.  Do you think the estrogen did anything because I think I looked so different before.

Does the new picture look any more feminine?  To me it does look more like a woman... it looks like my mother a lot.....she is no longer with us..

I don't know what to really make of it.  It doesn't really look like all the other transgender women do.  It just doesn't really look that great.

I just wanted to add my two cents. Take it for what it's worth but I hope you do take my advice.

First of all, you focus way too much on your physical appearance. I think you should try to take a portion of that effort to focus on your self esteem. I will be blunt here: if you lack self esteem right now, when you transition you will greatly suffer.

Transitioning is not about becoming a pretty girl with perky breasts. Transitioning is the process that changes EVERYTHING about you. You will not only experience physiological changes but you will also experience how people see you, how you see yourself, and emotions that intertwined between all of that.

If you are serious about transitioning, you MUST work on your self esteem. That first step is to seek out a therapist to work on that. Because, without self esteem, you minus well start digging your grave if you try to transition without it.

The good news is, once you learn and deal with your self esteem, you will become a better person because of it. You will be happy and confident and others around you will be able to see that in you.

Secondly, stopping estrogen will not cause you to age dramatically. With this said, I highly doubt you took estrogen through legitimate channels. Based on your post history, you have a lot to learn about transitioning. So my guess is that you found a website somewhere and ordered some estrogen or birth control and started to take those for awhile.

The problem with self medicating is that you have absolutely no idea what you are taking plus you will never know if you are taking the right doses and other medications to correlate with the estrogen. So, all in all, you were probably just throwing money away to some website from Thailand, India, or somewhere.

Secondly you are 27. You're just a baby in age compared to me. I am almost 40. I didn't transition until I was 35. You think you had it rough? I had hair all over my body, I had to shave three times a day to keep a five oclock shadow away and I was balding rather badly. I was also 360ish pounds.

This was me:


My point is this: I worked my ass off to get to the way I did. Nor did I ever hope to be some kind of pretty bombshell. Did i worry that I may not pass? Of course I did. I would be a liar if I said I didn't. But I refused to let it take control of my life and I made sure I didn't sit behind a computer and worry about how ugly I was.

I worked out, I lost weight, I saw a therapist, I went back to graduate school. None of this came from wishful thinking or feeling sorry for myself.

You can do this.

Trust me. If a transsexual can lead Sunday mornings in a Church, you can at least work on that self esteem of yours. This is me today:



Take the advice of some of the girls and guys here. There are some wise people here.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: sysm29 on January 01, 2012, 05:42:26 PM


I don't know what to really make of it.  It doesn't really look like all the other transgender women do.  It just doesn't really look that great.

Do something about your eyebrows...sorrry, you need a ton of werqk.

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sonopoly

Sysm, I think you were a very good looking guy and have lots of potential to be a very attractive woman, with work and patience.  I'm just saying this since you seem to be so concerned about this.

Also, listen to Annah!
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Suziack

Wow! You are not ugly at all! You can be good looking woman or man, just decide which you are going to be!
If you torture the truth long enough, it'll confess to anything.
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sonopoly

I'm glad someone else confirmed this!  I think you were/are a very cute guy!
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MsDazzler

Quote from: sonopoly on January 02, 2012, 02:39:36 AM
I'm glad someone else confirmed this!  I think you were/are a very cute guy!

something we finally agree on. lol.

Seriously, h/she is the poster child for my thread about which fork to take.
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Suziack

Sys29, By the way you have talked I expected to see a monster... and no monster! I am so disappointed! You are quite a good looking person, male or female! You are simply being your own worst critic, no one sees you the way you see yourself, at all!
If you torture the truth long enough, it'll confess to anything.
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sonopoly

MsDazz, I'm glad we agree on this as well.  I don't mind disagreeing with you either because you made me think about things and you were very civil about it.  I enjoy your presence on the boards.  You've really livened things up!

Suziack -- I was expecting a monster too!  Not by a long shot.
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