nervous about doing this but here it goes.



best picture I could find of myself all dolled up. Long story short, had a bad 2009 and 2010, and lost alot of things, but am on my feet again and getting everything in order and going make up and clothes shopping this week.

Quote from: EvilEm on January 02, 2012, 07:53:27 PM
best picture I could find of myself all dolled up. Long story short, had a bad 2009 and 2010, and lost alot of things, but am on my feet again and getting everything in order and going make up and clothes shopping this week.

Get hair extensions. The presentation is still very "male" and post at a better angle of your face.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on January 02, 2012, 07:55:33 PM
Get hair extensions. The presentation is still very "male" and post at a better angle of your face.

hair extensions? Ok, thinking of just letting my hair grow long. Do you mean the way I stand or pose? Is that too masculine?

is this a better angel?

Quote from: EvilEm on January 02, 2012, 08:18:00 PM
is this a better angel?

Not really.

Sorry, I would redo your entire makeup... Turn down the red lips, get a natural hair color, and change the hair color.

You need a lot of werqk. Go to MAC and get a makeover...then get a wig. Experiment with DRAG and figure out what works and what doesn't.

thanks I will do that, and thank you again for your tips I really appreciate your help

Quote from: EvilEm on January 02, 2012, 08:29:18 PM
thanks I will do that, and thank you again for your tips I really appreciate your help

Yeah. make some friends with the MAC girls or local drag queens, etc.

The idea is to condense the drag look into an every day, PASSING look.

will do thanks

Quote from: likealolita on January 02, 2012, 01:00:58 PM
Here's a picture of me from a few weeks ago wearing a wig and some foundation to cover up my acne.  I only have an iPod touch as a digital camera, so I apologize for the low quality of the picture.

I've only been on Estrogen (Estrodial) for a little less than two months, so I know I have a long way to go, lol.  I would appreciate any comments in terms of improving my appearance for "passing" as well as what you may think I would need for FFS (if I need anything at all; obviously the Adam's Apple is one thing that will be on the list).

How old are you, I can't tell from the picture?

24.

Quote from: Keaira on January 02, 2012, 07:03:30 PM
NOOOO! not my hat! just kidding. I'll see what I can do ^_^

you had to see that one coming, right? lol.

Anyway, you have a wide figure from what I can see... horizontial lines will slim you down and the flared jeans is not doing you any justice... it adds heaviness to your figure. Try straight boot cut legs.

Quote from: Emi on January 02, 2012, 07:00:02 PM
Well...i dont  know  the basis to a make up, maybe i will pay a professional to give me one basi and teach me..and say me what i must buy.
Neighter have cloths  to dress, and the few times that i  try whit my sister´s cloth ...just look bad..at least to my taste.

But show this  pothos have a reason...i want advice to how chances my face and body to look as a female no matters what i dress or if i wear make up. In other words... maybe what you see i that ptho will be what i dress but only whit  a  litle make up and long hair. I want  just what so many  women have, be recognazed as women whitout   use   a  femme code dress.

But dont worry   at the end i know that is just a dream, i will need a lot of  make up, work and cloths. Well maybe when i had boobs...
Actually my  real issues is...go for breast surgery and maybe ffs ...or just take  HRT,  and what i can do to slim the  waist and wide the hips....to got the sand clock shape?  Surgery, HTR, gym? or cant be posibly  that?
But... well, would´t be soon  but i will try to upload in a future a  more femme  potho, surely when my hair  got more  long (when  that happen i will got a femme cut for sure)

PD : i see so many women having looks like mine and being taked as women yet    ...

Ok, you are asking what you can do RIGHT NOW without any surgery, HRT, and FFS....

Obviously you are talking about what kind of clothing you should start out with-

Okay... first of all, get clothes that are strongly female-gendered and start wearing them.

For example - start collecting bras, camis, skirts of all different kinds, blouses. Get dangly earrings.

How tall are you?

Quote from: EvilEm on January 02, 2012, 08:18:00 PM
is this a better angel?

angel or angle? I see no angel in your angle  sorry bad pun

Anyhoo... i know you said you said you are growing out your hair... but honestly, the frontal hair looks scary and makes you look depressed and gothtic. try changing the style.. perhaps cut it straight even across like Mahsa's hair?

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on January 02, 2012, 08:25:25 PM
Not really.

Sorry, I would redo your entire makeup... Turn down the red lips, get a natural hair color, and change the hair color.

You need a lot of werqk. Go to MAC and get a makeover...then get a wig. Experiment with DRAG and figure out what works and what doesn't.

I agree... When I first started out (even tho I wasnt a drag queen), I did go heavy on makeup and drag queen style to figure out what loooked good, etc, etc.

Quote from: MsDazzler on January 02, 2012, 11:25:25 PM
angel or angle? I see no angel in your angle  sorry bad pun

Anyhoo... i know you said you said you are growing out your hair... but honestly, the frontal hair looks scary and makes you look depressed and gothtic. try changing the style.. perhaps cut it straight even across like Mahsa's hair?

I think she needs more length for that and needs a lighter color.

I hear kids using the term "goth" and I think, "I was into that when I was 14..." now I am into lookin preppy or something.

On on another note..gothic is still around? Is it 1994?

Quote from: MsDazzler on January 02, 2012, 11:23:01 PM
Ok, you are asking what you can do RIGHT NOW without any surgery, HRT, and FFS....

Obviously you are talking about what kind of clothing you should start out with-

Okay... first of all, get clothes that are strongly female-gendered and start wearing them.

For example - start collecting bras, camis, skirts of all different kinds, blouses. Get dangly earrings.

How tall are you?

I have  5´10´´     well, maybe i am too afraid of  out in women cloths...but well someday i will  must do that xD if i am woman at least

Quote from: Emi on January 03, 2012, 12:25:38 AM
I have  5´10´´     well, maybe i am too afraid of  out in women cloths...but well someday i will  must do that xD if i am woman at least

baby steps, baby steps, cutie

i know ^^ ,  i whish be more young and feareless, like was my girlfriend, now i have  a whole life (luckily dont have  childs) ,  and feel  what the age is falling over me  quickly >.<

By the way..about Base?  the onyl way to discover the  correct tone and colour is trying right?  i buy one but i fear is to muh clare :s
Is i have yet some shadow beard ... is better if is more dark the tone skin of the base?
mmm, if i mistake the tone..what is less worse...darker or  clare?

Quote from: EvilEm on January 02, 2012, 08:18:00 PM
is this a better angel?

Do you have a more neutral, straight on face shot?  They're nt the most flattering, but it might help give a better idea of what can be improved.

Quote from: Lily on January 01, 2012, 03:14:50 PM
I thought the "can I pass one day" thread already fulfilled this role.

Oh wells, I like posting pics. I know my eyebrows need work, but what else? I'm clueless about the hair. I part it down the middle to hide some minor hair loss, but it doesn't look that great I think.

I'm sorry, I missed your picture!
Don't think I had forgotten about you xP
I think your hair hinders you from passing.
Sleek, straight hair will boost your femininity by over 9000. :3
Also, I would stop splitting your hair down the middle, not many transwomen pre-FFS can pull that off.
Full bangs or side swept ones are always best.

HRT has changed your face a lot, I've seen your pre-HRT pic on one of the picture threads and I was pretty impressed.
Your skin complexion is gr8, if you did something with your eyes, slightly fixed your brows a bit more, your face could pass.

Quote from: likealolita on January 02, 2012, 01:00:58 PM
Here's a picture of me from a few weeks ago wearing a wig and some foundation to cover up my acne.  I only have an iPod touch as a digital camera, so I apologize for the low quality of the picture.

I've only been on Estrogen (Estrodial) for a little less than two months, so I know I have a long way to go, lol.  I would appreciate any comments in terms of improving my appearance for "passing" as well as what you may think I would need for FFS (if I need anything at all; obviously the Adam's Apple is one thing that will be on the list).

I think your face is pretty, nice hair too.
But I cringed when you said you were 6'4 and only 124 pounds X:<

IMO I think MTFs and FTMs run into this problem with weight. (I'm not saying all of them do.)
If you could gain a bit more weight, your face would look less gaunt and bony. (Where as if an FTM lost weight, his face wouldn't look so "plump")
etc etc.

I think you get what I'm saying lol.
Don't be scared to put on a couple pounds

Quote from: EvilEm on January 02, 2012, 07:53:27 PM
nervous about doing this but here it goes.



best picture I could find of myself all dolled up. Long story short, had a bad 2009 and 2010, and lost alot of things, but am on my feet again and getting everything in order and going make up and clothes shopping this week.

Quote from: EvilEm on January 02, 2012, 08:18:00 PM
is this a better angel?

I'm sorry but you can't pull off the whole "serious" look thing in pictures.
You should try smiling first of all :]
Your bang needs to start further back, the less forehead you show the better. (I'm not picking on you btw, I'm speaking for all t-women with long foreheads.)

I would get your brows done, they look bushy.
And experiment with makeup.
I don't know if you're wearing any, but if that's a lip color your applied then that's way too red.

If that's your natural lip color then you can put foundation on them(the same one you use for your face) and then apply a softer colored lip.
There's plenty of videos on youtube that shows you how to do makeup.
I'm not kidding, there's THOUSANDS of gurus on there.

If MTFs spent a day or two watching them, she could put it to use to help her pass better.
But no one ever seems interested in learning.
Now I'm ranting lawl.