Ok, so can anyone here penetrate?

You mean with the "enlargement", right?

Hah yeah with just "you".

Interesting question, I haven't started T so have no answer.  Another question is how much does having release surgery help in penetration.

Quote from: mm on January 10, 2012, 09:40:51 AM
Interesting question, I haven't started T so have no answer.  Another question is how much does having release surgery help in penetration.

I am not an FTM, but only the "Release surgery" alone, or the Metoidioplasty, can, in some FTM's be fully enough to allow penetration, as the clitoral growth in some transmen may be very extensive. So when released, the Clitoris can indeed be like a smaller penis, fully capable of penetration, although however still incapable to reach the "full deep", so to speak.
However I believe the thread starter may have referred not excludingly to this method but all surgical methods including also Phalloplasty?

If so, then Phalloplasty can actually provide the guy with quite a dong, perhaps even too big for some partners, but if there are any current member here that had it done, I do not know, but there were some previous members that did, though.

I usually think of Release surgery" and Metoidioplasty as the same type of surgery, trying to increase the length of the enlarged clitoris.  Also each surgeon has a different procedure for this type of surgery.  It is good for me to know that you get hard enough through the entire organ to have successful pentration. I expect both persons must get in the right position to have success.

Quote from: mm on January 10, 2012, 10:16:12 AM
I usually think of Release surgery" and Metoidioplasty as the same type of surgery, trying to increase the length of the enlarged clitoris.  Also each surgeon has a different procedure for this type of surgery.  It is good for me to know that you get hard enough through the entire organ to have successful pentration. I expect both persons must get in the right position to have success.

A simple release is not the same as meta though.  Release just cuts the suspensory ligament that holds the clitoris in place.  Meta is a lot more complicated than that, and yes each surgeon generally has a different method or way of doing things.

Not me, but it's early yet.

Andy, have you consider having lower surgery?  Have you had good results from being on T for over a year?

Unless my growth gets much larger than it is now (because even the standard 2.5 inches, while erect, won't be enough for me), I'm definitely not just going to get a metoidioplasty alone. I mean, I do want bottom surgery at some point and I know it is primitive at this time, but having a micropenis, because even bioguys can have this, would bring up a whole different set of problems. I've heard of transguys who have the release and their penis is still can't penetrate someone sufficiently enough. I mean, I know there's always sleeves and whatnot if all else fails, but I dunno. A couple of a weeks ago, I was pretty impressed with my growth, but now it either has gone down quite a bit or it doesn't seem as large to me anymore for some reason. It's definitely not big enough for penetration though.
   I still have hopes for myself, but I dunno. So far, I don't like where this is going. Perhaps I should ask my doctor for a prescription for testosterone cream as well?

Yes I can.

Jason, I am thinking one needs to have at least 3-3.5 inches to have real penetration even in the best of positions with your partner.  I think how you see and measure your size is depended on how you are standing or sitting, how hard to you are, etc.  I am thinking I will want some type of lower surgery of the metoidioplasty type in the end.  I hope some day to have something down that looks like at least a micropenis or very small penis.  I hope you have some luck in increasing your length.

Nygeel, you are long enough to have actual penetration?  What is your length? How long on T, any surgeries?

Quote from: JasonRX on January 10, 2012, 11:11:57 AM
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Not sure if it helps... I have had experience with bio-guy (gay) with micro penis.
Here is the deal, - he had NO problem to come all over me, no joke, but nothing much of anything doing for me. That's the issue in my experience.

Axélle

Quote from: mm on January 10, 2012, 11:26:30 AM
Nygeel, you are long enough to have actual penetration?  What is your length? How long on T, any surgeries?

I've penetrated a sleeve haven't had the chance to really try with other people since being on T. I've been on T for 14 months, no surgery. I think I'm 3 inches.

Nygeel, must feel great to actually feel something with 3 inches between your legs.  Do you think you will grow any more?  I am pre t and still get that monthly visitor.

Quote from: mm on January 10, 2012, 11:37:14 AM
Nygeel, must feel great to actually feel something with 3 inches between your legs.  Do you think you will grow any more?  I am pre t and still get that monthly visitor.

It's alright. I think changes keep going until up to 5 years, so I might grow...don't know.

Nygeel, I dream of being able to put my hand between my legs and feel at least micropenis there that is mine.

Quote from: mm on January 10, 2012, 11:43:11 AM
Nygeel, I dream of being able to put my hand between my legs and feel at least micropenis there that is mine.

Then you probably would want surgery. I'm cool with what I've got, and I was okay with what I had pre-T.

Quote from: mm on January 10, 2012, 11:24:00 AM
Jason, I am thinking one needs to have at least 3-3.5 inches to have real penetration even in the best of positions with your partner.  I think how you see and measure your size is depended on...

I think you totally misunderstood what I was saying. x_x
I said 2.5 inches would not be enough and that's the problem with micropenises as they are defined as a penis that is under three inches when erect. There are a lot of transguys who don't get up to 3 inches when erect and that's the problem. Actually, most guys I've heard of...don't. This is a huge problem for me and I don't think it will suffice.
I don't know how much mine will grow, but am willing to do pretty much anything possible to have my parts the size I'd like them to be, hence saying sometimes metodioplasty isn't enough.
  I'm well aware of what I look like when I'm erect or not, standing up or sitting down. That's not the issue here, but it may be because I'm under a lot of stress and that has also made my libido unbearable, because my body is often too tense to....ahem...you get the gist. 
I never said down there didn't resemble a penis. I just want it be larger than it is (I know I'm the type of person who wants to be at least five inches) and that bothers me. I don't know, maybe it has something to do with me being straight identifying and mostly dominant. I nitpick at things a lot though. I would only request testosterone cream so I could get as large as possible, not because I'm not experiencing any enlargement at all.