Pontiff's strongest tirade yet says same-sex nuptials 'undermine the family'
By Rheana Murray / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Monday, January 9 2012, 7:11 PM

Pope Benedict XVI denounced gay marriage in his annual "State of the World" address Monday, going so far as to say the same-sex nuptials threaten the future of humanity.

In the speech, the pope, 84, unleashed what some consider being his strongest tirade against gay marriage, saying it is among conventions that "undermine the family" and "threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself," Reuters reported.

"Pride of place goes to the family, based on the marriage of a man and woman," the pontiff said.

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This, coming from the guy who was in charge of all reported pedophile priest cases within the Catholic Church.  And what did he do?  He moved the pedophiles around, so they could prey on more innocent children.  For that he got elected Pope.  Practicing Catholics should have been asking for his head, and the head of everyone who voted him in.

Maybe the problem the pope has with gay marriage is it doesn't produce any offspring - no little boys to molest.

"Pride of place goes to the family, based on the marriage of a man and woman," the pontiff said.

Pride goes before the fall too.

Here's what bothers me about that is that it assumes that if this is an option then everyone is going to choose it.  Yup, the main reason I'm not gay is because I can't get gay married.  Hell, that's the most appealing part of being gay to me.  Twice now California has allowed gay marriage for a period of time.  At first there was a huge pent-up rush, then it went down (particulary when you toss the out-of-state marriages from the counting).  The second time there was a much smaller rush, then it went down to the same levels as we had seen before.

No one was 'turning' gay to get married, seems that most of them were gay first, married later.  And if that's true - and it is - then marriage makes no difference in the number of gays.

I am a harbinger of the apocalypse!

(I'm not actually married, but w/e)

Maybe someone should remind the Pope of all the pedophiles he's hidden everywhere going back to when he was a cardinal. While he's at it if he's so concerned about the family why doesn't he work with famiies whose marriages are struggling. This is what annoys me whenever a candidate or some anti-lgbt people throws this in or faces. I wish that I could speak in front of these people because my life is the antithesis of what they claim.

The Pope is a politician.  Politicians only need to know how to get elected.  Popes don't need to worry about re-elections so after elected can say whatever they want.  To some the RCC is teflon, nothing can be said or done that can't be forgotten or excused away.

The next star on the rise is that Doyle guy in NY.  He's one of the best politicians I have ever seen come out of the RCC.  And he's 100% anti-LGBT.  Wait til he gets the puff of smoke.  He'll weave those Catholics around his little pinky so fast they won't even know it.

Quote from: Julie Marie on January 12, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
The Pope is a politician.  Politicians only need to know how to get elected.  Popes don't need to worry about re-elections so after elected can say whatever they want.  To some the RCC is teflon, nothing can be said or done that can't be forgotten or excused away.

The next star on the rise is that Doyle guy in NY.  He's one of the best politicians I have ever seen come out of the RCC.  And he's 100% anti-LGBT.  Wait til he gets the puff of smoke.  He'll weave those Catholics around his little pinky so fast they won't even know it.

Julie, It's Achibishop Dolan that you reference. He's just been promoted to cardinal. I will do some research on him.

Quote from: Laura91 on January 12, 2012, 12:30:24 PM
"Same sex marriage threatens the future of humanity"

Pffft!! Give me a break!

You know what is a threat to the future of humanity?

Humans.

It makes no difference if they are single, married or divorced.

You're right about that, Laura.

I read an article few days ago (www.equally-blessed.org/node/21). A poll of American Catholics showed that 90% of Catholics back transgender rights. Apparently the article has been removed. I made a copy of the article. Goes to show you that the hierarchy is out of touch with its constituents. 

Now how about:

"Gay bulls threaten future milk production..."

Should get this one picked up by one of those vigilant journos.

Axélle

Popes are a greater threat to humanity than gay marriage - look at history.

Quote from: Robertina on January 12, 2012, 06:05:39 PM
Popes are a greater threat to humanity than gay marriage - look at history.

Oh, ZING!

Quote from: Robertina on January 12, 2012, 06:05:39 PM
Popes are a greater threat to humanity than gay marriage - look at history.

Quote from: gennee on January 12, 2012, 03:24:03 PM
Julie, It's Achibishop Dolan that you reference. He's just been promoted to cardinal. I will do some research on him.

Yeah, that's the guy.  He's so full of it, I think he actually believes what he's saying. 

Okay, he's not that gullible.

Quote from: Axélle-Michélle on January 12, 2012, 04:18:02 PM
Now how about:

"Gay bulls threaten future milk production..."

Should get this one picked up by one of those vigilant journos.

Axélle

UM, only a few bulls do that au natural these days.  I live in beef country and 98% of the cow pregnancies are artificially inseminated.  This is how they cross breed the different breeds to get a desired grade of beef and milk production.  The bulls that result form some of the unions grow shorter hind legs and cannot reach the cow properly.  I pass a place called the Rocky Mountain Sire Services Inc. a few times a month and it is always filled with cows ready to be artificially knocked-up.  They will also do this at the ranch site.  The Journalists know better here.
  Joelene

I looked up the Vatican website to find out what the impediments to marriage are in the RCC.  Infertility is apparently okay, but impotence is not as the marriage cannot be consummated.  So that sort of contradicts his position. 
I could also say that as someone with some Jewish heritage, having someone as Pope who was in the Nazi Party and Hitler Youth is offensive to me , but being a lady I will refrain, even though his apology to the Jewish people was half-hearted.

Karen.

I have my qualms with some catholic doctrines, non the less, I do like the ritual and have many catholic friends and will probably one day officially become catholic myself; however, I really can't stand the current pope.  When he was cardinal he was in charge of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith  (you might know it better by its former name, "the Holy Office of the Inquisition "). For some reason I always liked John Paull II, I felt he was pretty compassionate.  Maybe the next pope will be better.

Oh yes - he who supported Hitler.  Quite a track record of caring about the future of humanity.  Or maybe just certain kinds of humanity, excluding Jews, homosexuals and transfolk.

Kia Ora,

"Pride of place goes to the family, based on the marriage of a man and woman," the pontiff said.

Says the man who has never been in a sexual relationship, never had children has no idea of the dynamics of family life...

BTW  He drives around in a bullet proof 'Popemobile' with body guards...So much for having 'faith' in the Almighty...If god's right hand man don't trust his 'boss' *Hence the bulletproof glass and body guards * what hope is there for the humble lay follower [  It does make one wonder  ]

Metta Zenda

This is ironic since I always wanted to marry the pope.

Nice One Jason!

As the Bible doesn't actually define a man or a woman it's all a bit problematical really isn't it.   Maybe someone should ask him for a definition that has absolutely no exceptions.  That should keep him busy for a while.

Karen.