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Started by Tammy Hope, January 16, 2012, 02:22:33 AM

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Tammy Hope

Tammy Rainey, Mississippi GLBTQ Examiner
January 15, 2011

Representative Richard Floyd (R-Chattanooga) introduced a bill Tuesday in the Tennessee General Assembly which would make it illegal under state law for a person to use the restroom, dressing room, or other gender-specific "private spaces" designated for a gender other than the one listed on their birth certificate. A corresponding bill was introduced in the State Senate by Senator Bo Watson (R- Hixson) but was later withdrawn in the face of an instant and fierce backlash of objection.

Compounding the outrage Rep. Floyd was quoted about the bill as follows:

I believe if I was standing at a dressing room and my wife or one of my daughters was in the dressing room and a man tried to go in there — I don't care if he thinks he's a woman and tries on clothes with them in there — I'd just try to stomp a mudhole in him and then stomp him dry.

Don't ask me to adjust to their perverted way of thinking and put my family at risk. We cannot continue to let these people dominate how society acts and reacts. Now if somebody thinks he's a woman and he's a man and wants to try on women's clothes, let him take them into the men's bathroom or dressing room.

read more at: http://www.examiner.com/glbtq-in-tupelo/tennessee-lawmaker-threatens-violence-against-trans-persons
Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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tekla

Good luck on that whole stomping the guy.  I looked up old Dick Floyd and he's a bloated old white guy and ain't likely to stomp anything that didn't come with a walker attached.
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Cindy

You have such interesting politicians.

Are they especially bred under rocks and in dark places?
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tekla

bred under rocks and in dark places

That should be the new state motto for Tennessee.  And you need to realize (though few do) that politics in America are just 'the entertainment branch of industry' as Frank Zappa noted.  And we're only electing them to offices that they don't really understand, it's comic relief - it's not like we're letting them do anything important like run a business or make movies.
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Cindy

But how much of such intolerance, no, sorry it isn't intolerance it is plain hatred; Nazism in a suit. How much is passed on to the 'normal' people. I realise we have discussed before the fundamental differences in the core of our societies, but the USA has a proud history of evolving as it accepts people from around the world. But sometime evolution seems to be very arrested. And sadly it seems to be public officials who are open to it. How much power does a fool like this have? Or is it just an irrelevant twit?

We had one this week at our Federal level, the opposition minister for migration publicly stated that new migrants had to be taught how to use deodorant before they went into society. Geez, must live under the same rock as your chap.
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pebbles

This man is an elected offical in Tennessee why wouldn't it be fair to assume that the opinions of this man represent a sizable subsect of pepole in Tennessee? I wounder what group that would be?
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Korra

I may side with the angels, but don't think for one second that I'm one of them.
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Jeneva

It is interesting to look at the district zoning for that area.  It is like that took the county that Chattanooga was in and left out all the metro area.  So it is all piddly little towns.  It looks suspiciously like a republican drew the district lines so the "liberal city folk" could take the whole zone.


*EDIT* I meant the state senate district.  When this first came up it was attributed to the state senator who has since withdrawn support
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Jeneva Caroline Samples
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Erica L.

In TN as well... and it's true, a large subsect of the population would tend to side with this politician.
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Jeneva

Quote from: Erica L. on January 16, 2012, 09:30:38 AM
In TN as well... and it's true, a large subsect of the population would tend to side with this politician.

It varies with education level though.  What we have found is that more education tends to be much safer.  None of my doctors/nurses/therapist or even well educated friends and family have had a problem.  It is the older generation and the teens that are the problems.

Of course it helps that I live near Johnson City which is one of the more liberal areas because of ETSU.

We've actually found education level is more important than closeness of relation for acceptance.

Now if we were totally in the middle of nowhere...... Yes I would be VERY scared and would have already moved.
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Jeneva Caroline Samples
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Annah

ill give him three years before he's caught in a french maid dress servicing a man he met on craig's list.
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tekla

ill give him three years before he's caught in a french maid dress servicing a man he met on craig's list.
Nah, he's much more the type who talks little kids into helping him make white tinkle after Sunday school. 

We've actually found education level is more important than closeness of relation for acceptance.
There is absolute rock solid demographic evidence that says that education=liberal=money.  So that places like Seattle or San Francisco both of which have absurdly high levels of education among the populace are also very progressively liberal, and are two of the richest places in the United States.  (they are also the two lowest TV watching populations)  Low levels of education, and substandard education create poverty, and poorer areas are more conservative than richer areas.

It looks suspiciously like a republican drew the district lines so the "liberal city folk" could take the whole zone.
Gerrymandering knows no party or ideology, it only knows how to retain power.  So there are lots of districts that are pretty absurd - or highly inventive - take your pick.

why wouldn't it be fair to assume that the opinions of this man represent a sizable subsect of pepole in Tennessee
Because you are only going by voters who voted him in.  So that's like 45-55% of the voters who voted, and Tennessee had the second lowest eligible voter turn-out in the last election, so you're talking about half or less of a minority.  I've always felt that there is a sizable portion of those who don't vote, who don't vote because idiots like this are running for office.

Nazism in a suit.
Funny, when people ask me what it was like working for Bechtel I always tell them it was like the Third Reich in suits.

the USA has a proud history of evolving as it accepts people from around the world. But sometime evolution seems to be very arrested.
Not arrested as much as regional.  Even with the huge immigration numbers the immigrant populations are not equally distributed.  And Chattanooga is a backwash area (Important places in Tennessee are Memphis, Nashville and Oak Ridge - while Memphis and Nashville are justifiably famous for music and commercial dealings, and Oak Ridge is all atomic high-tech, Chattanooga is famous for a choo-choo train that hasn't run for decades and decades, and Moon Pies) of a mid-level inland state, so it's numbers are going to be low as immigrants tend to large urban locations in coastal states that are areas of economic expansion and opportunity.

And sadly it seems to be public officials who are open to it. How much power does a fool like this have? Or is it just an irrelevant twit?
Like I quoted Frank as saying, politics is the entertainment branch of industry in the United States.  And in their wisdom our Founding Fathers who viewed all politicians as something lower than pond scum, and in our traditions since then people in the United States have not just an overwhelming distrust of political types, we flat out hate on them.  We have a system of governmental powers so convoluted that really only a Byzantine emperor could really understand it.  All of that balance of powers, separation of powers, and what is local, state and federal is designed to keep real power as far away from people like this as it can be.  It's not like he got it passed or anything.  Hell, he couldn't even keep anyone in the Senate as sponsor.  And for the Honorable Representative Dillweed here - in order to get it passed and have power - would have had to win the vote in the lower house, then a separate vote in the senate, and had the gov sign it.  He didn't even get it out of committee (I'm not even sure it went to committee).  This is just some grandstanding window dressing for the idiots who voted him in.

Geez, must live under the same rock as your chap.
Stupid knows no borders, no political party and no ideology.  I'm pretty sure it's the most common thing in the universe.
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Tammy Hope

TN has in fact passed some pretty ugly legislation regarding LGB/T people in the past and other proposals like "don't say gay" have gotten a good bit of traction, so i'm not assuming he won't find another Senate sponsor, or that it won't make it out of committee.

BUT Gov. Haslam (R) has gone on record with the opinion that such bills were "not a good use of their time" (paraphrased) and he'll maybe twist what arms he can to take it and others like it  off the table....on the other hand, he signed the law which overturned Nashville's LGB/T equality ordnance...

http://www.tnreport.com/2012/01/haslam-legislature-shouldnt-prioritize-bills-seen-as-hostile-to-gays/

QuoteGov. Bill Haslam told reporters Wednesday that he doesn't think bills dealing with sexual orientation are the best use of lawmakers' time this session.

Haslam was asked specifically about whether he sees a connection between bills such as one to ban teaching about homosexuality in lower grades and two teen suicides in as many months by Middle Tennessee students who were reportedly bullied for being gay.

"Obviously, that's not the environment we want to set in Tennessee," he said. "In terms of legislation, I think there's better things for us to focus on this year."
Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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Cindy

What is wrong with the Pres going to the Senate wearing a cute Maid's dress.

Probably get people listening or at least interested.
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