Okay, I know estrogen and cigarettes are a no-no together.

But I just smoked one tonight, it's been over 6 months.
and i needed it like hell.
I felt like crap.
but now i'm calm.

And no, I was never addicted, not even close.
Back then I probably smoked a whole pack in 1-2 months.

But how many cigarettes is too much?

Do any of you girls smoke occasionally?
I'm just curious here.
I'm not looking forward to smoking again in the future.

I mean, it was either picking up a cigarette or picking up a razor and self-harming again.
I already have too many scars that'll never go away.
So i went with the cig.

Yeah..

Quote from: JoeyD on January 18, 2012, 09:56:24 PM
Okay, I know estrogen and cigarettes are a no-no together.

But I just smoked one tonight, it's been over 6 months.
and i needed it like hell.
I felt like crap.
but now i'm calm.

And no, I was never addicted, not even close.
Back then I probably smoked a whole pack in 1-2 months.

But how many cigarettes is too much?

Do any of you girls smoke occasionally?
I'm just curious here.
I'm not looking forward to smoking again in the future.

I mean, it was either picking up a cigarette or picking up a razor and self-harming again.
I already have too many scars that'll never go away.
So i went with the cig.

Yeah..

I do, I smoke a lot when I smoke, my doctor says it increases risks, but I don't smoke often.
I like to smoke socially, so I sit with my neighbors and talk, watch TV and smoke cigarettes.

Hi Joey

I smoke about 20 to 25 a day. I know it is not good for me, but I just can't seem to quit. I've had no adverse effects (yet) except for a bit of a morning cough. I've been prescribed pills to stop smoking, but it clashed with my antidepressants, so I had to stop taking them. I suppose if I want to stop I will just have to do it through sheer willpower alone. How, I have absolutely no idea!

I suppose I should just try to decide which is more important to me - smoking or my transition. It really is a no-brainer. I really am at a greater risk seeing that I am, ahem, cough, cough 46 already.

Joey, I guess my advice to you is to quit while you can. You are still young and the smoking habit is probably not as deep seated in you as it is in me. (I've been smoking since the age of 20)

@ Zylphia - the same advice to you as well! 

Best of luck

Huggs

Maegan

I smoke sometimes. I think like 8 packages a year or so totally so not too often! For me it is like alcohol, I drink sometimes but not everyday . And I combine the 2 when I do it!

I smoked more when I was younger though.

The reason why it's dangerous is that Estrogen is a stroke risk. As smoking is also a stroke risk if two drugs have the same side effects the effect is *Mutiplied* not added.

If your a transwoman on HRT who smokes regularly I would bet money that you will die of a circulatory disease linked with it. 50% odds within 20 years.
I'm not begin cold or morbid I'm only stating numbers. I know you won't hear me but I won't tell lies.

in medical literature 1-10 a day was the lowest amount tested and that did cause markedly increased risks of circulatory system disease so the lowest "safe" dose is somwhere lower than that.

*edit* another note I'd point out is that Smoking in significant quanity significantly weakens your voice thus if you want to train your voice it makes it harder.

I had to stop smoking, about a year ago.

I started using nicotine lozenges. They take some getting use to but will do the job.

However, I always wanted a cigarette. Also, while I did manage to reduce the number of lozenges down to about 3 a day, (lowest size), I couldn't quite face not having them. I suppose I'd substituted one addiction, for another.

Then it occured to me, so what?

The lozenges have a bit of sugar, (teeth and some nicotine. But they are and will always be a better habit than tabaco. I can suck one almost anywhere. I don't smell so much.

And best of all, I have never had to deal with those interminable, smug former smokers, trying to lead me to their promised land, with a mixture of perky stupidity and Protestant suffering.

Just a few thoughts.

Wow, learn something new every day it seems. I hadn't seen anything on that linked risk yet, good to know. I've been smoking since 18 and have been trying to quit for a year or so now. Looks like I have another reason to work on it. Sorry I don't have any info to help, mostly commenting to sub to the thread since it seems something fairly important.

I've been trying to quit for 2 months now, i've only got 64 days to go until my first appointment at the gender clinic & want to have quit by then.

I understand how after a log time smoking (20+ yrs) the urge to spark up never truly leaves you, hang in there & good luck resisting the urges.

Thanks to all the people who've posted facts about the dangers with mixing HRT & smoking, this knowledge will help me when the will power weakens

I am a light regular smoker. I smoke about 2 to 3 a day.. somethings even none to 1 a day..

I have always been attracted to woman who smoked.. i dunno why.. seeing a woman smoke is sexy.. (I know wierd).. When I started crossdressing I had a urge to try smoking. When I dressed, I would maybe smoke one.. I smoke a very femine looking menthol ciggarette. The long thin ciggarette looks feminine. I only smoked in girl mode.

When I began hrt and presented 24/7 as a woman my smoking habit went with it.. I am addicted to smoking. I have tried stopping.. but when you have a hectic day.. you crave it.. also lying in a bubble bath, cant be done without smoking at least one.

I have no real side effects smoking.. hrt has given my C cups and female looking figure... after 1 year on hrt. I am still in  my early 20's..

I know I must quit.. and I know I will some day... but I have never been a woman without smoking..

so .. girls ... dont start... it a difficult habit to quit.. and dont kid yourself.. you will get addicted..

I am not trying to portray smoking as a good thing to do here (or without risks of being addicted). But as for myself I was never addicted although I started to smoke when I was about 9 years old. Started to do it everyday when I was 13 and continued til I was 25 then I just decited to stop and never had any problems with it! I can still smoke when I am drinking but never feel the urge to do it when I am not.


But smoking is bad and most people get addicted so please stop. It also makes you smell very bad =/.

Quote from: Carolina1983 on January 19, 2012, 02:08:01 PM
I am not trying to portray smoking as a good thing to do here (or without risks of being addicted). But as for myself I was never addicted although I started to smoke when I was about 9 years old. Started to do it everyday when I was 13 and continued til I was 25 then I just decited to stop and never had any problems with it! I can still smoke when I am drinking but never feel the urge to do it when I am not.


But smoking is bad and most people get addicted so please stop. It also makes you smell very bad =/.

Wow, since 9?
I started smoking when I was 15.
I was like you though, never became addicted.
I just wanted to do it for social reasons.

The only reason why I did it last night was to calm myself down.

Yeah I know it was pretty early  . I did not smoke like a package a day when I was that young but I did it once in a while when me and my friend was able to steal cigarettes from his older sister. I was born in that age when smoking still was kind of cool as a kid . 






I have also smoked sometimes when upset. As long as its not too often I think it is ok, like drinking because that is not healthy either.

Quote from: JoeyD on January 19, 2012, 02:18:59 PM
Wow, since 9?
I started smoking when I was 15.
I was like you though, never became addicted.
I just wanted to do it for social reasons.

The only reason why I did it last night was to calm myself down.

Their is a scientific reason why some pepole don't become addicted and others do.
http://inventorspot.com/articles/scientists_find_nicotine_addiction_gene_16876

A Gene encodes information on certain neurotransmitter receptors in some pepole like yourself you have a neuro-transmitter that dosen't allow nicotine to easily bind.

Other pepole have the easy binding genes as a result they become quickly addicted.

But how many cigarettes is too much?

But how many cigarettes much heroin is too much?
But how many cigarettes rat poison is too much?
But how many cigarettes meth is too much?

Quote from: JoeyD on January 18, 2012, 09:56:24 PM
Okay, I know estrogen and cigarettes are a no-no together.

But I just smoked one tonight, it's been over 6 months.
and i needed it like hell.
I felt like crap.
but now i'm calm.

And no, I was never addicted, not even close.
Back then I probably smoked a whole pack in 1-2 months.

But how many cigarettes is too much?

Do any of you girls smoke occasionally?
I'm just curious here.
I'm not looking forward to smoking again in the future.

I mean, it was either picking up a cigarette or picking up a razor and self-harming again.
I already have too many scars that'll never go away.
So i went with the cig.

Yeah..

With that low level of nicotine intake (1 pack per month, or less than 1 per day on average), you probably could kick it for good.  But even if you don't have the addiction, you probably still get the cravings - right?  That can be as much a mental thing as a physical thing.

Don't beat yourself up. A lot of people finds cigarettes to be soothing.  Just get back on the wagon and try your best tomorrow.

Quote from: tekla on January 19, 2012, 03:24:32 PM
But how many cigarettes is too much?

But how many cigarettes much heroin is too much?
But how many cigarettes rat poison is too much?
But how many cigarettes meth is too much?

Cold hard truth.

BTW, congratulations on 18,000.

off the wall question ... do you have a personal favorite post?

Quote from: J R D on January 19, 2012, 03:26:15 PM
I'm guilty of still smoking, done so since I was around 11, almost a pack a day by the time I was 16. I quit one time for 10 months, but some personal issues and being around a smoker with little consideration made it too easy to start back again.   I've been on hrt for about 8 years now and there haven't been any real issues from it yet, but I imagine that could easily change in the future.  And turning 49 in a couple months isn't helping and my dad and his mother both died of lung cancer,  so I'm a good candidate for that, I imagine.

Uh, yea.

do you have a personal favorite post

The one on the Book of Revelations springs to mind.

Quote from: JoeyD on January 18, 2012, 09:56:24 PM
Okay, I know estrogen and cigarettes are a no-no together.

But I just smoked one tonight, it's been over 6 months.
and i needed it like hell.
I felt like crap.
but now i'm calm.

And no, I was never addicted, not even close.
Back then I probably smoked a whole pack in 1-2 months.

But how many cigarettes is too much?

Do any of you girls smoke occasionally?
I'm just curious here.
I'm not looking forward to smoking again in the future.

I mean, it was either picking up a cigarette or picking up a razor and self-harming again.
I already have too many scars that'll never go away.
So i went with the cig.

Yeah..

Your health isn't a contest of how much you can get away with.

I'm not trying to chastise you, it's just that smoking is universally bad. See if you can talk to someone about constructive ways to release your stress without harmful and addicting activities.

Quote from: tekla on January 19, 2012, 04:30:26 PM
do you have a personal favorite post

The one on the Book of Revelations springs to mind.

Can you re-post it?  Or point to the thread?